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KDCat 04-10-2012 12:00 PM
Boston police investigating hazing at Alpha Epsilon Pi
 
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/l...ssible-hazing/

Not good.

DeltaBetaBaby 04-10-2012 03:20 PM
LOL, I like the "pretend to be sleeping when the cops show up" approach.

jazing 04-10-2012 03:38 PM
I'm shaking my head, stupid stuff like this shouldn't happen.

AlphaFrog 04-10-2012 03:40 PM
They also found about a dozen other college students scattered around the two-story home.

WTF? Are they people or Waffle House hashbrowns?

agzg 04-10-2012 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KDCat (Post 2137950)
Not good it was done, but good the police caught them.

exlurker 04-10-2012 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2138002)
Not good it was done, but good the police caught them.

An assortment of some of the other coverage, for those who might be interested:

Boston U – Possible Hazing – Alpha Epsilon PI (Chapter not Recognized by BU)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-univ...ry?id=16110462


AEPi has suspended the BU chapter and its members, as one might have guessed:

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/04/1...g-allegations/

And the Globe reports that some of the men in the chapter may be expelled:

http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/04...TD9M/story.htm

wsmitty 04-11-2012 12:44 AM
It's pretty disturbing, because I am an active in The Tribe (AEPi) and our chapter (Epsilon Phi) is underground until we get through IFC, even though nationals are beggin us to get initiated. Kinda awkward to be so similar to those guys.

amIblue? 04-11-2012 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wsmitty (Post 2138143)
It's pretty disturbing, because I am an active in The Tribe (AEPi) and our chapter (Epsilon Phi) is underground until we get through IFC, even though nationals are beggin us to get initiated. Kinda awkward to be so similar to those guys.
QFP

jazing 04-11-2012 03:06 PM
From AEPi HQ

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Statement Regarding Boston University Incident -- Revised

Alpha Epsilon Pi does not – in any way – condone hazing of any type. We have been a leader for many years on this subject and expend considerable effort each year to educate our chapter leaders and members as to the proper new member education programs.

The actions being reported at Boston University do not reflect our Fraternity’s values or principles of brotherhood.

After doing a thorough investigation, we have closed our Boston University (Zeta Deuteron) chapter. Any members found responsible for participating in any actions contrary to our risk management guidelines will be expelled. We also intend to fully cooperate with all authorities and investigations.

In addition, AEPi board members and staff are reaching out to every one of our 160+ campuses to make sure that all of our Brothers understand our position on hazing and are completely in compliance with our guidelines.
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Originally Posted by wsmitty (Post 2138143)
It's pretty disturbing, because I am an active in The Tribe (AEPi) and our chapter (Epsilon Phi) is underground until we get through IFC, even though nationals are beggin us to get initiated. Kinda awkward to be so similar to those guys.
You mind telling me where Epsilon Phi is located?? You aren't on the online chapter roll.

AlphaFrog 04-11-2012 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jazing (Post 2138239)
From AEPi HQ





You mind telling me where Epsilon Phi is located?? You aren't on the online chapter roll.
He said before that he's in an underground chapter, I believe...which means he's probably not officially initiated according to your HQ.

Plus, he's either ridiculous or a troll, or most likely both.

jazing 04-11-2012 03:21 PM
Well, BU was listed online. They were probably at one point recognized by BU then dropped off.

AlphaFrog 04-11-2012 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jazing (Post 2138243)
Well, BU was listed online. They were probably at one point recognized by BU then dropped off.
That's usually how chapters end up underground...being de-recognized by the National, university or both. Most people don't set out to start an underground of a National org.

KSigkid 04-11-2012 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jazing (Post 2138243)
Well, BU was listed online. They were probably at one point recognized by BU then dropped off.
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2138245)
That's usually how chapters end up underground...being de-recognized by the National, university or both. Most people don't set out to start an underground of a National org.
They haven't been recognized by BU for some time. I was active in the Boston U Greek system from 2000-2003, and they weren't recognized at at time. I don't know if they were an "official" AEPi chapter during that period.

amIblue? 04-11-2012 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2138240)
He said before that he's in an underground chapter, I believe...which means he's probably not officially initiated according to your HQ.

Plus, he's either ridiculous or a troll, or most likely both.
One would think that a former chapter gone underground would still show up as an inactive chapter.

So, yeah, definitely a troll.

jazing 04-11-2012 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2138306)
One would think that a former chapter gone underground would still show up as an inactive chapter.

So, yeah, definitely a troll.
In my book that lists the chapters, Epsilon Phi is not listed as an inactive chapter or colony.

AEPi's been at BU since 1941, I'm not sure at what points they recolonized/chartered and didn't get accepted or whatever though.

naraht 04-12-2012 12:21 AM
Alpha Epsilon Pi has their chapter list online at their National web page, while it is split up (active Canada, active USA, active Israel, inactive chapters), Epsilon Phi isn't on any of them. Next step (when I can) is to check Baird's (1991), but I'm not expecting to find it...

Old_Row 04-12-2012 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wsmitty (Post 2138143)
It's pretty disturbing, because I am an active in The Tribe (AEPi) and our chapter (Epsilon Phi) is underground until we get through IFC, even though nationals are beggin us to get initiated. Kinda awkward to be so similar to those guys.
I'm sure this kind of stuff will get you 'through IFC' in no time. Maybe you should tell your nationals you can't initiate yet because you haven't hazed your pledges enough.

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Originally Posted by wsmitty (Post 2138135)
Hey, I just was elected as Pledge Master for the next batch of freshies and I need some ideas on how to mold them into the perfect brother.

Obviously, my fraternity has its traditions and secret operations, but there needs to be some creativity.

The pledge master is basically a liaison between brothers and pledges, and isn't always the one barking orders, but sometimes he is.

People whine about hazing and that its bad from the start, but that isn't true. It's bad when its physically tormenting, which is often unnecessary. Its the MENTAL aspect that shines.

With that being said, I need task ideas for the little punks to instill brotherhood, and while also giving me and the guys a laugh.

Any answers will be appreciated.

jazing 04-12-2012 12:52 AM
Here's one for you, AEPi allows initiation of most colony members. For a chapter to be unrecognized I'd still bet they were allowed initiation (or at least formal induction).

naraht 04-12-2012 05:54 AM
And bye-bye Wsmitty...


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