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FHwku 02-07-2012 09:05 AM

Forbes 10 Most Miserable US Cities`12
 
http://realestate.msn.com/10-most-mi...ties-of-2012#2
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By Kurt Badenhausen of Forbes
America's most miserable cities

We looked at 10 factors for the 200 largest metropolitan areas and divisions in the U.S. to determine America's Most Miserable Cities for 2012. Some are serious, such as violent crime, unemployment rates, foreclosures, property and income taxes, home prices and political corruption. Other factors we included are less weighty, such as commute times, weather and how the area's pro sports teams did. Although many would consider sports, commuting and weather trivial, they can be the determining factor in the level of misery for a significant number of people.
  1. Miami
  2. Detroit
  3. Flint, MI
  4. West Palm Beach, FL
  5. Sacramento
  6. Chicago
  7. Ft Lauderdale
  8. Toledo, OH
  9. Rockford, IL
  10. Warren, MI

i like lists. granted, nobody wants to be on this one (unless you're buying a house.)

AOII Angel 02-07-2012 10:01 AM

We have Miami on the top of our where to go next list. To each his own.

Low C Sharp 02-07-2012 11:23 AM

Chicago and Miami more miserable than Toledo and Rockford?

What a crock of poo.

lovespink88 02-07-2012 11:49 AM

Aw blerg, #6? and LOL my commute time is double the "average commute" in Chicago.

dukemama 02-07-2012 06:01 PM

Miami more miserable than Detroit? Guess I should be glad my mom lives in PA now and escaped city #4 on the list (another one I'm SMH at).

AGDee 02-07-2012 09:02 PM

I grew up in Warren, MI. I don't think people are unhappy there. No more than Detroit anyway. They share a border. You might as well just say "the Detroit metropolitan area" and lump us all in together. And, I think people in Flint are probably more unhappy, honestly. There's nothing in Flint worth going there for. Detroit has some great stuff, it just has bad stuff too.

33girl 02-07-2012 10:05 PM

Chicago??? Seriously?

honeychile 02-07-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2124028)
Chicago??? Seriously?

I would have to agree at this stage! Ask me again in another 10 years.

aephi alum 02-08-2012 01:34 AM

I wonder if West Palm Beach is on the list because my evil grandmother-in-law lives there...

Oh, did I just type that on a public forum? :o

PrettyBoy 02-08-2012 01:44 AM

  1. Detroit
  2. Flint, MI
  3. Warren, MI
What's "miserable" (to me) is the way they drive, here.

Gusteau 02-08-2012 03:04 PM

I thought Sacramento was lovely, YMMV I suppose...

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Originally Posted by aephi alum (Post 2124070)
I wonder if West Palm Beach is on the list because my evil grandmother-in-law lives there...

Oh, did I just type that on a public forum? :o

:D

NutBrnHair 02-08-2012 03:12 PM

Did they not go to Akron?

Benzgirl 02-08-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2124165)
Did they not go to Akron?

Correction..."Crackron".

Munchkin03 02-08-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 2124202)
Correction..."Crackron".

Cincinnati is pretty nasty too...I was there last month and it was all sorts of depressing.

knight_shadow 02-08-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2124203)
Cincinnati is pretty nasty too...I was there last month and it was all sorts of depressing.

Well that's refreshing.

I'm going there next month to meet a client. Guess I'll be staying in during my time there.

amanda6035 02-08-2012 07:09 PM

I can't believe Seattle isn't on there. That was the worst 3 years of my life. Damn you, Navy, for sending me to the miserable gray, rainy, cold PACNORWEST.

Though, I will say the 2 weeks of summer they actually had was beautiful.

Sorry, Seattle natives :(

barbino 02-08-2012 09:46 PM

I haven't been to Miami since I was a kid, so I can't say anything about why it is #1. Detroit being rated #2 does not surprize me at all - so many smoking potholes, and I live in Chicago, so I thought that I'd be used to "big city grunge." I will say that Detroit has some of the most beautiful suburbs that I have ever seen, though.

I'm surprized but not shocked about Chicago's ranking. If almost all of my family was not here, I'd definitely move somewhere warm; somewhere south.

AOII Angel 02-08-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2124203)
Cincinnati is pretty nasty too...I was there last month and it was all sorts of depressing.

I love Cincinnati...at least for the 24 hrs I visited!!

AGDee 02-08-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by barbino (Post 2124245)
I haven't been to Miami since I was a kid, so I can't say anything about why it is #1. Detroit being rated #2 does not surprize me at all - so many smoking potholes, and I live in Chicago, so I thought that I'd be used to "big city grunge." I will say that Detroit has some of the most beautiful suburbs that I have ever seen, though.

I'm surprized but not shocked about Chicago's ranking. If almost all of my family was not here, I'd definitely move somewhere warm; somewhere south.

The smoking pot holes are a steam generated electrical system for city power. They keep the homeless warm in the winter. They usually sleep right on top of them to stay warm. I thought they were very strange until I found out what they were. I guess they beat coal.. lol.

barbino 02-08-2012 10:33 PM

AGDee-
Thanks, I always wondered about all those smoking potholes. It's funny what you remember when you visit other areas. :)

AGDee 02-08-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by barbino (Post 2124256)
AGDee-
Thanks, I always wondered about all those smoking potholes. It's funny what you remember when you visit other areas. :)

I've lived in metro Detroit my whole life and only found out what those were about 10 years ago, when the system went down and the lights around my work were out. I noticed the steam was gone too and someone told me what was up :) (Oh, and they are man holes, not pot holes...lol). The bad thing is, there are places where the steam is so dense it reduces visibility on the road.

Munchkin03 02-08-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2124247)
I love Cincinnati...at least for the 24 hrs I visited!!

It's not terrible...as long as you stay downtown near the major hotels and the stadiums. I found the areas outside downtown to be extremely economically depressed. It was pretty racially segregated, which I'm not used to for even moderately-sized cities.

AOII Angel 02-09-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2124282)
It's not terrible...as long as you stay downtown near the major hotels and the stadiums. I found the areas outside downtown to be extremely economically depressed. It was pretty racially segregated, which I'm not used to for even moderately-sized cities.

Yeah...that's where I was.

ASTalumna06 02-09-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2124028)
Chicago??? Seriously?

Exactly!

The only thing I might find depressing about this city is the Cubs. As someone who roots for the Red Sox, I can't help but feel sympathy for their fans.

Other than that, I have NO IDEA what this city is doing on the list.

AGDee 02-09-2012 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2124288)
Exactly!

The only thing I might find depressing about this city is the Cubs. As someone who roots for the Red Sox, I can't help but feel sympathy for their fans.

Other than that, I have NO IDEA what this city is doing on the list.

They list some of the criteria as weather and political corruption. Also, there are some very economically challenged parts of the city so I suspect those come into play. I love Chicago though.

AOIIalum 02-09-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2124315)
They list some of the criteria as weather and political corruption. Also, there are some very economically challenged parts of the city so I suspect those come into play. I love Chicago though.

I also adore Chicago, but having been there in snowstorms and heatwaves can understand why weather would be a negative. Still, Chicago is a fantastic city.

ASTalumna06 02-09-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2124315)
They list some of the criteria as weather and political corruption. Also, there are some very economically challenged parts of the city so I suspect those come into play. I love Chicago though.

Hm.. Bad weather, political corruption, economically challenged, AND horrible sports teams... Why the hell isn't Buffalo on this list?!


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