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DrPhil 01-09-2012 05:19 PM

1911 United: Re-elect President Obama
 
Members of Omega Psi Phi and Kappa Alpha Psi have joined forces to educate and mobilize voters to get President Obama re-elected.

"Members of" is an important note because the actual fraternities (NHQ) do not officially endorse political parties and candidates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1911 United Website
The history of 1911 United began with the friendship and political achievements of two members of America’s Historically Black College and Fraternities. While celebrating their Fraternity’s 100 Year Conclaves, these two conceived that even more could be done in the histories of both fraternities. From there, the two members of each fraternity gave birth to the idea of creating an organization to assist in the re-election efforts of our first African American President, President Barack Obama. The historical significance and reasons anchoring the founding of these two Fraternities is justification enough for us to embark on this life changing endeavor.

1911 United is also not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

http://www.1911united.com/

DrPhil 01-09-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Root Blog
Black Fraternities Form Obama Super PAC

Another factor making 2012 politically historic? It marks the first presidential election with super PACs. Given free rein by a 2010 U.S. Supreme Court decision, super PACs are independent committees allowed to raise and spend unlimited amounts of money to support, or skewer, a political candidate.

They're already shaping the election. After a pro-Romney super PAC, Restore Our Future, spent nearly $3 million on attack ads in Iowa targeting Newt Gingrich, his lead in the state swiftly plummeted. But a new pro-Obama super PAC, 1911 United, has a different strategy in mind: to mobilize an "army of Obama supporters."

Backed by members of Kappa Alpha Psi and Omega Psi Phi, historically black fraternities that both celebrated their centennials last year, 1911 United aims to raise $1.5 million toward training and organizing African-American voters in key battleground states to re-elect President Obama. Members of the two fraternities joined forces last year, officially forming the committee in December, after seeing that both organizations were running their own campaign volunteer-recruitment efforts at college homecoming events.


http://www.theroot.com/blogs/kappa-a...bama-super-pac

knight_shadow 01-09-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2116583)
"Members of" is an important note because the actual fraternities (NHQ) do not officially endorse political parties and candidates.

That was going to be my first question.

Senusret I 01-09-2012 07:34 PM

I can dig it.

Psi U MC Vito 01-10-2012 02:33 PM

It's not clear to me. Do they want to reelect President Obama because they thought he was a good President or just because he is Black?

knight_shadow 01-10-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2116782)
It's not clear to me. Do they want to reelect President Obama because they thought he was a good President or just because he is Black?

Where is this coming from?

Senusret I 01-10-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2116783)
Where is this coming from?

A place that I don't want to go.

But will if I have to.

*sharpening Hattori Hanzo steel*

Cen1aur 1963 01-10-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2116782)
It's not clear to me. Do they want to reelect President Obama because they thought he was a good President or just because he is Black?

I hate it when white folks say this same stupid shit. You probably DIDN'T vote for him because he's black.

PiKA2001 01-10-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963 (Post 2116819)
I hate it when white folks say this same stupid shit. You probably DIDN'T vote for him because he's black.

How do you know he's white? :rolleyes:

amIblue? 01-10-2012 04:39 PM

I am totally looking forward to this.

NinjaPoodle 01-10-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 2116804)

*sharpening Hattori Hanzo steel*

:cool: with popcorn in hand.

NutBrnHair 01-10-2012 11:37 PM

Wondering if there was a similar mobilization in support of Bill Clinton for a second term?

MysticCat 01-11-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2116904)
Wondering if there was a similar mobilization in support of Bill Clinton for a second term?

Depends on what part of this you're thinking about. If you mean members of GLOs mobilizing to support candidates, I imagine there was. If you mean NPHC org members being involved in voter education initiatives in the African American community, then I'd be pretty sure of it.

If you mean a SuperPAC like was described in the article being formed, I highly doubt it. They weren't allowed by campaign finance laws until the Citizens United case a few years ago.

DrPhil 01-11-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2116904)
Wondering if there was a similar mobilization in support of Bill Clinton for a second term?

This is what I recall right now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_the_Vote

http://www.womensenews.org/story/com...te-black-women

There were organizations in Black communities to mobilize the Black Democrat vote. I do not recall NPHCers being as involved, then again the Internet was not as pervasive in 1996.

NutBrnHair 01-11-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2116904)
Wondering if there was a similar mobilization in support of Bill Clinton for a second term?

Please insert "by Omega Psi Phi and Kappa Alpha Psi" after the word term.

DrPhil 01-11-2012 12:50 AM

In that case, no. Those Omegas and Kappas are simply combining efforts for Obama's re-election because of the 1911/100th anniversary thing. It's catchy.

DubaiSis 01-11-2012 02:12 AM

I think members of these organizations can support re-election of President Obama for a lot more than just being black. Duh. I can't pretend to know what the American media has been saying about the president but if you list out the substantial (and controversial) things he's accomplished, a person might start to think there are parties out there who just want to bring him down regardless of the facts. (/sarcasm :rolleyes:)

I wish he had taken more risks over the last 4 years, and I'd like to see him win re-election to handle a couple more issues that I think can probably only be handled by a lame-duck president - Cuba for instance. And bringing down Citizens United. And finding a reason to throw the Koch brothers in jail. They've done such a great job of keeping racism and hate alive in America; having a bunch of smart, powerful, savvy black men go after them would be awesome.

And by the way, people vote for president because he's "like me" all the time. What was this crap about voting for Bush because you could drink a beer with him? If a bunch of educated successful professional black guys (and gals of course) want to vote for President Obama because he's like them, what's the problem?

DrPhil 01-11-2012 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2116927)
And by the way, people vote for president because he's "like me" all the time. What was this crap about voting for Bush because you could drink a beer with him? If a bunch of educated successful professional black guys (and gals of course) want to vote for President Obama because he's like them, what's the problem?

The difference is that never before has there been an option to choose a candidate primarily based on racial and ethnic similarity. All of the other competitive presidential candidates and presidents were white so whites would be choosing someone of the same race regardless of who they liked. Whiteness is often considered invisible so, although whites have a race and ethnicity, the average white person would neither admit to choosing presidential hopefuls based on race nor admit to making sure there is no support for certain presidential hopefuls based on race.

The same goes for when there is a woman as president...if ever. There will understandably be the excitement of voting for a woman and, for some women, it will take a total failure of a president who is a woman to make many women betray the womanhood selection. But, I know that it would take something as minute as a mosquito at the White House to piss voters off enough to criticize and not want to re-elect a woman, racial and ethnic minority, openly homosexual, (insert other power minority group) president.

People can tolerate a whoooooooooole lot from white men but only from white men. People unfortunately called George W. Bush an idiot but they did not turn against white men as presidents (and white men, in general) because of him. And regardless of what people consciously claim because they do not want to be labeled as racist, there are a lot of Americans who think North America's attempt at presidential diversity and "giving Blacks a chance to run the country" has failed if President Obama has failed. There will be no second chance any time soon if whites as the majority decide President Obama needs to sit his LightskinnededBlackass down. (President Obama's conveniently considered biracial with a white mother when white people like him but when white people dislike him he's Black, with a Black family, and he is just like any other Black man who plays basketball LOL)

I am a bit amused that this thread turned into a discussion of this, thanks to Psi U MC Vito.

DubaiSis 01-11-2012 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2116932)
I am a bit amused that this thread turned into a discussion of this, thanks to Psi U MC Vito.

You couldn't have expected it any other way, right? And, off topic, I saw a black woman professor from Tulane on The Colbert Report talking about the 4 stereotypes of black women and thought of you. Not because of which stereotype you live with but because I pictured you going on a tear about it (in a good way ;)) If you haven't seen it, Dr. Phil, I'd love for you to find it and comment back.

MysticCat 01-11-2012 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2116913)
Quote:

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2116904)
Wondering if there was a similar mobilization in support of Bill Clinton for a second term?

Please insert "by Omega Psi Phi and Kappa Alpha Psi" after the word term.

While you're at it, you should also insert "members of" before the word "Omega." Both Dr. Phil and the website to which she linked were clear:
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2116583)
"Members of" is an important note because the actual fraternities (NHQ) do not officially endorse political parties and candidates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1911 United wesbite
1911 United is an independent political committee and is not affiliated with or otherwise sponsored by any other organization, including Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Inc. and Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity Inc.


amIblue? 01-11-2012 12:36 PM

Regarding the "like me" part of voting: if I heard a female say it once in 2008 about Sarah Palin, I heard it a gazillion times. To which I could only respond, "No, I like you; you're nothing like that nut."

DrPhil 01-11-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2116934)
You couldn't have expected it any other way, right? And, off topic, I saw a black woman professor from Tulane on The Colbert Report talking about the 4 stereotypes of black women and thought of you. Not because of which stereotype you live with but because I pictured you going on a tear about it (in a good way ;)) If you haven't seen it, Dr. Phil, I'd love for you to find it and comment back.

There is a reason why that was on The Colbert Report. ;)

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2116984)
Regarding the "like me" part of voting: if I heard a female say it once in 2008 about Sarah Palin, I heard it a gazillion times. To which I could only respond, "No, I like you; you're nothing like that nut."

Republican women, predominantly white women, are the majority of the women who claimed Sarah Palin was "like them."

Sarah Palin's alleged stupidity was somewhat buffered by Hilary Clinton's alleged awesomeness. Plus, Palin was only a V.P. hopeful whereas Clinton was a Presidential hopeful.

A lot of Black women expressed the Black Feminist conflict that has gone on for generations: Do I align with Obama because he is "like me" racially or do I align with Clinton because she is "like me" in terms of gender?

(Sure, we can claim that we only align ourselves based on policies and political platforms but the gender, racial and ethnic, religious, socioeconomic status, education, and other demographics of candidates have always mattered.)

Cen1aur 1963 01-11-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2116820)
How do you know he's white? :rolleyes:

For the same reason I can tell that you're white.

amIblue? 01-11-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2117000)

Republican women, predominantly white women, are the majority of the women who claimed Sarah Palin was "like them."

Sarah Palin's alleged stupidity was somewhat buffered by Hilary Clinton's alleged awesomeness. Plus, Palin was only a V.P. hopeful whereas Clinton was a Presidential hopeful.

Yeah, strangely enough, a lot of the women I know from sorority life and church are predominantly white and, unfortunately, predominantly Republican.

The Republican thing is a cross to bear, let me tell you. I've learned to keep my mouth shut in social situations because otherwise it becomes a whole lot of awkward.

DrPhil 01-11-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2117008)
Yeah, strangely enough, a lot of the women I know from sorority life and church are predominantly white and, unfortunately, predominantly Republican.

The Republican thing is a cross to bear, let me tell you. I've learned to keep my mouth shut in social situations because otherwise it becomes a whole lot of awkward.

Both Democrat and Republican are bowls of feces.

Ghostwriter 01-11-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2117008)
Yeah, strangely enough, a lot of the women I know from sorority life and church are predominantly white and, unfortunately, predominantly Republican.

The Republican thing is a cross to bear, let me tell you. I've learned to keep my mouth shut in social situations because otherwise it becomes a whole lot of awkward.

:rolleyes::confused::rolleyes::confused::rolleyes: :confused:

No stupid Dems, huh! Maybe you should poll people in all 57 states. ;)

DrPhil 01-11-2012 03:32 PM

Thanks to 1911 United for bringing so many issues to the forefront:

1. Obama is Black but is that why some people support him?
2. Sarah Palin may not be "like me."
3. Democrats and Republicans have stinky feet.

amIblue? 01-11-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2117019)
:rolleyes::confused::rolleyes::confused::rolleyes: :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2117019)

No stupid Dems, huh! Maybe you should poll people in all 57 states. ;)

I didn't say Republicans were stupid. I said Palin was a nut.

I didn't say I was a Democrat, either. (I'm not.) I just find the Republicans to be a special pain in the butt.

Quote:

Thanks to 1911 United for bringing so many issues to the forefront:

1. Obama is Black but is that why some people support him?
2. Sarah Palin may not be "like me."
3. Democrats and Republicans have stinky feet.
DrPhil, you always start the best threads.

iotamason 01-11-2012 04:26 PM

Cain is still Able....

DrPhil 01-11-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2117033)
I didn't say Republicans were stupid. I said Palin was a nut.

I didn't say I was a Democrat, either. (I'm not.) I just find the Republicans to be a special pain in the butt.

Republicans are a pain in the right cheek. Democrats are a pain in the left cheek. The Independents and other affiliations are all over the place so they are a pain in the assssssshoooooooole.


Quote:

Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2117033)
DrPhil, you always start the best threads.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...15OIx8k1wTeOIa

DrPhil 01-11-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iotamason (Post 2117045)
Cain is still Able....

LOL. That was always stupid.

Cain was on The View yesterday. I liked him more than I did the first time he was on The View. He has calmed down and seemed less antsy. I guess he will not provide me with more dumb quotes for my signature.

amIblue? 01-11-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2117047)
Republicans are a pain in the right cheek. Democrats are a pain in the left cheek. The Independents and other affiliations are all over the place so they are a pain in the assssssshoooooooole.

LOL.

Trey_P-I_47 01-11-2012 06:15 PM

Maybe some of you in this thread should watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AazsJTQaew

Might be surprised on you want to vote for

amIblue? 01-11-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 2117070)
Maybe some of you in this thread should watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AazsJTQaew

Might be surprised on you want to vote for

Or not.

amIblue? 01-11-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2117048)
LOL. That was always stupid.

Cain was on The View yesterday. I liked him more than I did the first time he was on The View. He has calmed down and seemed less antsy. I guess he will not provide me with more dumb quotes for my signature.

When I lived in Atlanta, I would occasionally tune in to Cain's radio show. I always thought that he said some things that I agreed with and some things that were crazy. Just like in his presidential campaign.

Psi U MC Vito 01-11-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963 (Post 2116819)
I hate it when white folks say this same stupid shit. You probably DIDN'T vote for him because he's black.

I'm white!?! Shit I wish somebody had told me this before.

Ghostwriter 01-12-2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963 (Post 2116819)
I hate it when white folks say this same stupid shit. You probably DIDN'T vote for him because he's black.

This is probably the stupidest thing posted on this thread so far. Many of us didn't vote for Obama because of his policies and left leaning ideology. Color of skin had nothing to do with it. I would vote for West, Cain, Watts, Keyes, Rubio or any person who believes as I do.

knight_shadow 01-12-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2117272)
This is probably the stupidest thing posted on this thread so far. Many of us didn't vote for Obama because of his policies and left leaning ideology. Color of skin had nothing to do with it. I would vote for West, Cain, Watts, Keyes, Rubio or any person who believes as I do.

That's not always the case and we know it.

Not saying that this is the case with folks on GC, though.

----

So yeah ... kudos to the Kappas and Omegas doing this.

DrPhil 01-12-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2117274)
That's not always the case and we know it.

Not saying that this is the case with folks on GC, though.

I think Ghostwriter was speaking for himself.

GC folks, in general, are no exception. There was no screening process. :)

Ghostwriter 01-12-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2117274)
That's not always the case and we know it.

We all know there are exceptions to every case. There are always outliers in every demographic.

Wonder what the Kappas and Omegas would have done if Cain had won the Republican nomination? Food for thought.


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