Is it just me...
 

Or have the topics in Greekchat gotten really risque'? Some of these topics are a little awkward and perhaps a bit inappropriate.

hmmmm..ya think? Inappropriate? I'm not so sure on this one. We're Greeks, we're chatting, so it's greekchat, albeit the nc-17 version.

I've been uncomfortable with the direction that some threads have taken.

We're all adults, if you feel uncomfortable then don't read and reply.

Some welcome back YOU get! Haven't seen you post in a long while, but I always loved the name!

It is one heck of a thread, isn't it!

Yes and no, it's a public forum, so if people want to discuss the mature things, I don't see much reason why they can't.

I mean, i dont have anything to comment on the "length v girth" thread going on right now, but I don't want to read it either, so I don't read them. If there was a thread in Chit Chat (where mercifully these threads stay) about spark plugs, I wouldnt read that either, as well...they're spark plugs.

I think we just have a few wild ones that want to spice up the sexy questions. It'll die down soon eough. Besides, all the boring threads "Whats your top 10..." "long vs short hair" have already been asked.

I'm suprised it took as long as it did for someone to voice this opinion. I have to say I agree with SH80er, if you don't like the topic don't read it. We are all adults and a lot of us seem to have very healthy attitudes about sex. If we're mature enough to be engaging in the acts, why should we be afraid to talk about it?
Heidi

I also agree with Sh08er I mean we're all mature people and if we can talk about these things maturly then why can't we discuss them??

It's all harmless fun, I think. The threads in question are appropriately titled, so if there's one that doesn't interest me or I don't feel I'll be comfortable reading I just don't go in there.

I suppose that SH80 is right. I guess that I am just so surprised that people are so willing to talk about these subjects so openly. Especially the ladies that are in sororities. Sometimes things are better left unsaid.

Melanie

I've been uncomfortable with it also. But its a free world and people will discuss what they want to discuss! I simply choose not to participate, b/c IMO its nobody's business what I do in the privacy of my own home.

But far be it from me to rain on everyone else's parade. Talk amongst yourselves! :)

I have to agree with Maria, Ive thought it was getting a little out there, but hey, if you want to particpate...go right ahead.

I agree with GMUTeKe, this is a public forum, therefor as long as people post and don't use explicit language (profanity) and respect each others opinions and views, then really theres nothing wrong with the thread or the topics that might be a little out there.
Also this is umm like the 4th thread about this:eek:
so like we always say,If it don't interest you don't reply, If you don't like the topic, don't read it.
It's really not brain sugery:D
DGPhoney~

You're not the only one RedHotChiO... I've raised my eyebrows several times lately when reading thread topics. Maybe I'm just old school, but I think that some of the topics are a little over the top.

See, even though we're all adults and can say and do what we want, what bothers me is that there'll be a thread that's going along one way and suddenly, BAM! Someone says something obscene and we're off to the races! And no, I don't have to read any more of the thread, but the fact is that I saw something gross I didn't want to.

It's happened to all of you--you're on the computer and a nasty image shows up or you're watching TV and someone says something obscene or scary that you didn't really want to hear. You know how you feel when you turn on TV and the anchor says, "And here are the burned bodies of 3 kittens who were tortured today," and you think, "I didn't want to see that!" but it's too late.

That's what it's like for some of us more conservative folks when a thread changes. Obviously if a thread has a dirty name, we aren't going to be reading it in the first place.

Carnation I can understand where your coming from. I say this respectfully, but thats just life. We cant always control everything we see when we are going to see it. I agree with what tracy said. its all in good fun. really the beauty of these threads is everyones differing opinions. The only thing is that sometimes some people dont use discretion. Meaning they dont skip over the thread if they think its going to provoke them in a negative way or they just let the topic fire them up. I dont think that there is any problem with what has been posted its just how people handle it. Like when to be serious or when just to unbutton your collar and have a good laugh.

I like the your name too, and now that I've heard the song that goes along with it, well... http://www.plaudersmilies.de/square/winksquare.gif

Thanks
 

Thanks Geoff. Thanks Justamom. Your compliments are sweet. ;-)

If you don't like the thread, don't read it...

If you do read it, realize that the majority of people posting are college students - we're a little more open about stuff than the general population...simple fact of the matter. I understand where you're coming from, the threads are definitely more extreme than usual - but nothing harmful, so no use worrying about it.

Discussions on Sex
 

This is a little off the topic, but on morning radio here Dr Ruth has come out with a book for children ages 4 to 8 all on sex. She makes a good point - Our society has deemed sex as a taboo topic. I wish I had more time to go on, but her argument falls along the line that it should be something people talk about (in appropriate contexts of course) But bottom line, there is nothiing wrong with the words penis or vagina - flashback to Varsity Blues and say it with me you all:

Penis Penis Penis
Vagina Vagina Vagina

(sorry couldn't resist);)

Re: Discussions on Sex
 

Speaking of Dr. Ruth, she came to our campus last year, and boy was it funny!

I think sex is a perfectly natural and open thing to talk about.

Hey all,

I think some of you are preaching to the choir here! LOL No one is saying that sex isn't a wonderful, healthy, normal human activity. We all know it is!

No one--as far as I know--has asked to have the threads closed, and no one has criticized anybody for participating. Of course you have the right to discuss what you want to!

A few of us are just expressing our personal opinion that we are uncomfortable with some of the threads. That's all. Some people are saying, "If you don't like it, don't read it." May I respectfully suggest that it goes both ways? If you don't like the subject matter of this thread, then please don't read it.

I'm not trying to start a flame war. Just saying that everyone has their own opinion, everyone should be able to express it and its aaaaaaaaallll good. OK? :)

I was always told that those who talk about sex a lot are usually the ones not getting it. Sooooo, to prevent any misconceptions from being made about my sex life, I've chosen to keep my comments out of these threads for the most part. ;)

Seriously... I don't have a problem with anyone discussing sex, alcohol or any other legal activity on GC. I just prefer not to post much on those topics myself, mainly because I don't want someone without much knowledge of the Greek system, be it a prospective rushee or an anti-Greek parent, to happen upon GC and think that we're all a bunch of sex-crazed lushes.

People can be very impressionable, and I would hate for someone to read a post of mine and decide that they didn't want anything to do with Delta Zeta because of something I've written, no matter how tongue-in-cheek it may have been.

Just my stance on the issue. :)

As much as the bluntness made me blush at first, some people don't have anyone in their lives that they feel comfortable discussing sex/sexual issues. At least here on GC, people are relatively anonymous and can discuss things more openly.

I think that the facelessness of the internet allows some people to express themselves more freely than they normally might. I hope people keep in mind that none of us are representatives of our entire GLO, we are just people who are talking and happen to be Greek (re the reference to people coming on and thinking we are sex-crazed lushes) I'm glad that we can be adults and bring some of this stuff out of the closet (no pun intended) to talk about. It's not a chance you usually get.

I am surprised. Some of the people who I thought would be offended by the threads have been the most active (big ups to my sis in AXO justamom!), so I'm pleasantly surprised. I mean, we're all adults, college-age or older. We're all adults here, we're mostly Americans (and can exercise our free speech), and we're open and proud about our sexuality. Frankly, there's probably some stuff I've said on these pages I wouldn't want my mother to know about, but I'm an adult, so it really doesn't matter.

It's like an "offensive" TV show. If you don't like it, change da channel.

If anyone judges AXO or XO, DZ or ZTA regarding what's on the pages of this site, then they have serious problems. To beat a dead horse, that's like judging all Beta or Delta Sig chapters over what happened at Auburn. :rolleyes:

Alright, i just gotta say this, and its my personal opinion, but I gotta voice it. As far as all of this talk goes about sex talk being inappropriate and shocking and whatnot...with the exception of those on this site who may not have experienced it yet "cut the hypocritical b.s." I've always been amazed by people who are shocked when they hear others talking about things that they themselves have done, but are too prudish or immature to talk about. If you are offended by these posts, simple solution...don't read em. I don't know if I only speak for myself here but, I'm 22 and have gathered from my own experience that sex is just a regular part of human existence, not something to be embarrased or ashmaed to speak of. Personally, some of the stuff I've read on here in the past few weeks has been hilarious and also informative. It's nice to hear women's viewpoints on how us guys should behave or mishaps and events that happen or have happened in our lives. To tell ya the truth, i've been a member of this site only for a few weeks, but all of you have already taken on your own personalitites to me, which I find very cool. We're all really open with each other here and that rocks. So, my basic point is, I hope that no one is so offended by any of this stuff that they will stop contributing to discussion, because I definetly will not.

This is going to be the last time I comment on this subject because I feel as if I am going around in circles, LOL. I don't think its a matter of prudishness or immaturity to be uncomfortable when sex is being discussed. To me, its more a matter of privacy. I was raised to believe that sex is something sacred between two people. Any discussions about my sex life will be going on between me and my husband. I don't feel the need to share certain aspects of my private life with the public, and I don't expect anyone else to do so if they don't wish to.

I understand that many (maybe most) people don't agree with my outlook. But in the same way that you have the right to discuss sex, I have the right to say, no, I'm not comfortable doing that. That is why I am making the active decision not to participate in those discussions. I would never try to prevent anyone from speaking their mind--I'm only asking that you try to understand my opinion, and not dismiss it out of hand as prudish or immature.

And now ladies and gentlemen, stepping off the soapbox.
:)

I understand that many (maybe most) people don't agree with my outlook. But in the same way that you have the right to discuss sex, I have the right to say, no, I'm not comfortable doing that. That is why I am making the active decision not to participate in those discussions. I would never try to prevent anyone from speaking their mind--I'm only asking that you try to understand my opinion, and not dismiss it out of hand as prudish or immature.

And now ladies and gentlemen, stepping off the soapbox.
:) [/B][/QUOTE]

Point understood and respected:)

I know I speak for a few people when I say: thank you.
;)
(And I know I said I wouldn't post again, but I couldn't help myself. I know you all will forgive me!)

I forgive you Maria. I hope you can forgive me :) I can understand how you feel about this issue. I hope you havent fell out of your chair reading my posts. ha ha.

sex


I just posted about sex

Sex is cool
Sex is sin
Sin is forgiving
So slide it in

- My girlfriend Rhonda

Did I say that?
Rhonda

BuCutie got a lot of complaints about shultzz' nasty thread, so she locked it. Some of the complainers were people who have been proclaiming their right to say anything they want on line.

See what I mean? Everyone has his or her own point at which they're offended and some people who weren't offended by the non-virgin ladies thread have now reached that point. Who are you to now be saying we should set some limits?

Contrary to popular opinion, we don't have totally free speech in this country. If we did, child porno would be in our faces every day and libel and slander would be rampant. We do need some limits.

You tell 'em, Carnation!

Actually, I wouldn't have supressed a thread about anal sex, all it did was ask a simple question. *shrug* I thought BUCutie, made an interesting compromise in appeasing the people complaining by closing the one thread but still allowing the question to remain in the non-virgin thread.

This thread is interesting in its defensiveness. The way I have been reading it some people are just saying they are a mite uncomfy with aspects of sexuality (as Carnation put it) beyond their private or public comfort level being displayed in this forumn.

The others have responded that their comfort levels are higher. This is cutting out some of the back and forth rhetoric.

I guess anal presents a more uncomfy level for some? Well how about being dressed in latex and then bound . .. or some of those vicsiously wierd piercing ceremonies . . .

If, as Carnation said, some people that were vehemently defending their right to express are asking for another thread about sexual activity to be closed, that is amusing :D

Good discussion.

"Cut the hypocritical b.s."???? :eek: Just a minute. I really don't appreciate being called a hypocrite by someone who doesn't know what I look like, much less what type of person I am! :mad:

Whether or not I've "done" the things that have been discussed in these recent threads is not even close to the point I was making in my earlier post, and I don't think it was the point of most of the other GCers who share my opinion! So let's get a few things straight before we start calling each other names:

For the record, I've got just as many stories to tell as the next GCer and, yes, I have talked about sex and still DO talk about sex in DETAIL, in PRIVATE, to CLOSE FRIENDS. However, I don't walk through a crowded mall, chatting loudly with my girlfriends about what "positions" my boyfriend and I selected the night before, and I sure as hell don't broadcast my sex life to the world via GreekChat either. If that makes me a "hypocrite" in some peoples' minds, then so be it! I'll wear the label with pride.

Personally, I do not feel like certain topics should be discussed in a Greek Chat forum and that is why I have CHOSEN to veer away from them. Some people have made the argument that the Internet is the only outlet some shy people have to ask questions and discuss "taboo" subjects while under the veil of anonymity. My reply to this argument is that there are plenty of websites on the worldwide web that are specifically designated for sex talks, and I am of the opinion that those are the types of forums where sex should be brought up if someone feels like doing so. However, in my obviously minority opinion, we might as well rename Chit Chat "Sex Chat", judging from the majority of posts made lately. :rolleyes:

All I'm really trying to get across is that people who aren't Greek DO check out this site, and there are many who will get the wrong idea about Greek Life if they run across too many of these threads. Sorry to break the news to you folks, but people DO judge organizations by the actions of a few members. It happens every day and if you don't believe it, then you seriously need a reality check. I'm not saying that it's a smart thing to do, or even a FAIR thing to do, but it does in fact happen. It's just human nature.

How many times have you had ONE bad experience with a waiter and decided not to return to the restaurant because of it?

How many times have you had ONE rude salesperson treat you shabbily, making you swear that you'll "never set foot in that store again"?

Or, if you prefer examples on a Greek level:

How many times has ONE girl in a sorority done something outrageous in front of you at a mixer and made you think, "Damn, XYZ is scraping the bottom of the barrel for girls lately. What a ho!"?

How many times have you seen ONE fraternity guy acting like a jerk at a bar and overheard a non-Greek at the next barstool say, "All those ABC's are a bunch of a$$holes."?

How many times have you fielded a hazing question from a rushee that started out something like "My friend's sister's cousin twice-removed told me that she was hazed by one of your sisters at LMN University..."?

Situations like these happen EVERY DAY, y'all, and they ALL start because ONE person did or said something without first thinking about the consequences. If you don't believe me, then you need to crawl out from whatever rock you've been living under and take a look at the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and I really wish foresight was the same.

Do you honestly think that a rushee won't find GC, read a few of the more recent threads in Chit Chat, and think, "Man, Animal House is right on target!"? I guarantee you that some people WILL be offended, and WILL get the wrong impression.

Now, you can argue that statement by saying, "Well, what do we care about how a few people wrongly perceive us? It doesn't make a difference in the long run." I'm here to tell you that it does! Why? Because those few people are going to make comments to a few more people, who are going to make comments to a few more people, and THAT'S how the Greek system gets a bad rep.

Studies show that a person who is happy with something is going to tell between 2 and 3 people about their experience. A person who is UNhappy with something will tell 10 or more people. Do the math.

Sorry to be so blunt, folks, but others have been just as blunt when denouncing my viewpoint, and I'm feeling a little punchy today. I don't like being called a prude, and I really hate being called immature simply because something that is important to me isn't important to the next guy.

For the record, I haven't requested that ANY of these threads be closed. If y'all want to continue talking about sex, then go right ahead. But do so with the full understanding that, like it or not and fair or not, your comments WILL make an impression on others --- and it may not always be a favorable one. It's up to you and you ONLY to decide what type of image you want to portray for your GLO. You are wholly responsible for your words and actions. Just remember that, in the end, it will be your entire GLO that will receive the praise or the condemnation based on what YOU did or said.

That's the ONLY point I have EVER tried to make on the subject of GC posts.

***dzrose carefully descending the ladder from her soapbox, since it happens to be a VERY tall one today***

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