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Mevara 11-11-2011 04:01 PM

Black Friday
 
I don't normally go anywhere near stores on this day. I was reading this article on Yahoo Thanksgiving as Day to Shop Meets Rejection and it got me thinking. I was wondering for those who shop on Black Friday is anyone starting their shopping on Thanksgiving?

IrishLake 11-11-2011 04:04 PM

I now do all of my BF shopping online.

knight_shadow 11-11-2011 04:05 PM

I never go to stores, but I do frequently shop online for Black Friday. I have no issues with starting 2 hours early.

I had to roll my eyes at the person who "drew the line" at Thanksgiving shopping :rolleyes:

Mevara 11-11-2011 04:26 PM

I used to work retail and can totally sympathize with the employees who have to skip out on Thanksgiving Dinner.

TPA85 11-11-2011 06:41 PM

I am a Black Friday shopper but I highly doubt I would ever go on Thanksgiving Day. All the stores opening at midnight works well with my Eat Turkey > Nap > Shop timeline. If I have to cut down on Family dinner or nap time, it's a no-go.
That being said, if someone had a super ridiculously awesome sale at 11:00pm, I'd lose the hour of nap and go. But it would have to be a total steal for me to do that.

AznSAE 11-11-2011 09:40 PM

i did the black friday shopping once about 5 years ago and waited in line with all the other crazies. never again will i do that and especially in 30-40 degree temperatures.

33girl 11-11-2011 10:17 PM

Not everyone spends Thanksgiving Day stuffing themselves like a pig, with an obligatory family dinner that they really wish they could get out of. It doesn't mean anything to many of the non-native born American residents.

Personally, I would much rather work or shop at 9 or 10 on Thanksgiving evening than be dragged out of bed at 4 or 5 AM the next morning.

AGDee 11-12-2011 12:01 AM

My daughter and I have decided to go to an outlet mall on Thanksgiving .. it is opening at 10 pm. We're going to hit that, then Kohl's (who I heard is opening at midnight) and then the traditional mall by 4 am or so. Should be home by 10 am and ready to sleep. Yes, we're pulling an all nighter. Since it's 10 pm, I don't feel bad for the people working so much. They can have their dinner.

Lots of people have to work on Thanksgiving.. hospitals, first responders, etc. Nurses often fought to work that day because of the holiday pay. Hopefully these folks are getting holiday pay too.

PhoenixAzul 11-12-2011 09:37 AM

^^ Not likely. A good portion of these employees will be seasonal/temp hires, who have no rights to benefits or holiday pay, and even then, things happen like only being paid for the two hours of the "holiday" until midnight, and then switching back to whatever wage they make for a normal day.

I will not be shopping or buying a damn thing on Black Friday, nor on Thanksgiving day, and I'm so ridiculously relieved that the place where I work would never open on thanskgiving, and will be holding their normal hours on Friday.

Retail workers get abused and yelled at all day long on Black Friday, and I have to tell you that it is a day that I dread with every fiber of my being. Normally sane people become crabby, irrational, and demanding on Black Friday, and somehow thing that retail associates have this magic power to make other colors of a product appear, or we have some secret stash of product somewhere, or that we set the prices of things, or that we are uneducated.

Black Friday is seriously my version of Hell.

crosscaravan 11-12-2011 03:13 PM

Just throwing in my two cents re:what Phoenix Azul said about seasonal/temps not getting holiday pay.

Regular, year-round workers in retail - or at least in the place I work - don't get holiday pay either, or at least I never have when I've been called in to work during holidays like Easter or Thanksgiving (I imagine we might get it on Christmas, but they just don't open the doors then. Cheap, corporate jerks!). GameStop employees who are told to work for "mandatory" midnight release events (cough, Call of Duty, cough that was my version of Hell) only get their regular wages for those shifts, even if they end up staying until 3 in the morning and even if they've worked 8-hour shifts earlier in that day.

That said, UGH, Black Friday is the bane of my existence as a retail worker. Definitely seconding Phoenix's paragraph on abuse/customer behaviors that day. It's like every stupid, judgmental creep crawls out of the woodwork just to come badger us on that one specific day of the year and there's no way out of it.

I think I would cry if stores around here started their Black Friday deals on Thanksgiving. At my store, it's mandatory to work on Black Friday and it's grounds for termination if you miss it or if you manage to heinously offend someone during it. Most of my coworkers and I need the sleep we get Thanksgiving night to keep our patience intact when dealing with our Black Friday customers. Retail managers are notorious for scheduling long shifts that day and for not switching out coverage, so sometimes even when we do eat and sleep well we still get people who end up collapsing of exhaustion during a 12-hour shift of dealing with self-entitled little brats of various ages. Oh, yeah, we get breaks, if there's enough of a lull in the swarm of customers to allow us to leave... which there usually isn't.

Last Black Friday, I ended up working 10 am to 10 pm without a break, even though I was supposed to take one at about 4. "Just five more minutes Crosscaravan, you can go after you help this last customer and clear out the line!" ...and then five more pop up to take their place and I despaiiiiiiiired.

... tl;dr - no no no please do not start the Black Friday festivities on Thanksgiving night. Pleeeeeease. I will cry if that EVER happens, because if it's been suggested once it will probably be suggested again. And again. And again...

KSUViolet06 11-12-2011 03:18 PM

I went last year for the first time ever. I almost lost my life over a Barbie Powerwheels (for my god-daughter.) lol.

Won't be doing it again. Ever.

IrishLake 11-12-2011 03:24 PM

That was me a few years ago, KSU, over a effing Zhu zhu pet. I had a panic attack while in toys r us, said fuck it and left after waiting in line for 5 hours, they were out of zhu zhu pets anyway.

MysticCat 11-12-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul (Post 2106088)
Black Friday is seriously my version of Hell.

This. In fact, I will not set foot in a mall between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day unless there is absolutely, positively no way to avoid it.

excelblue 11-12-2011 06:06 PM

It's almost never worth it. Even if I value my time at minimum wage, which is $8.25/hr here, if I have to wait even 5hr in line, it'll need to justify a $41.25 savings before I'd bother. That's not considering in all the risks associated.

Considering the fact that I'm usually making several times more than minimum wage when I do freelance projects, I actually value my time much more than that. After calculating it out, if it's gonna take me 5hr in line (both getting in/out), I'll need to realistically save at least $300 over regular deals before I bother. Verdict: not happening, makes no economic sense.

Yes, there are deals in which you save >$300, but those usually involve ~15hr of waiting, which means I'll need to save almost ~$1000 to bother. So yeah, I'll even pass up $200 MacBook Pro if that was a Black Friday deal.

It's all economics. :)

AGDee 11-12-2011 06:28 PM

I'm never going for one special deal. In fact, it isn't about saving money to me. It's the energetic, cheerful, excited feeling throughout the stores. I've not had a negative experience and I've certainly never stood in line for 5 hours. I wouldn't do it if that was the case. It's also about getting all my Christmas shopping done in 4 or 5 hours when I have a day off instead of trying to get to all those different stores over the course of weeks when I have work, homework, kids' school activities, meetings, etc. One day, 4-5 hours and I'm finished. Last year, the Kohl's line looked ridiculous but it went so fast because every register was open. I've waited longer in there when I accidentally went in on Wednesday night (senior citizen night).

Ditto with Bath & Body works. Their lines were so organized that it went really really fast. I spent most of my time at the mall last year sitting and watching a radio show and ended up winning two gift cards from them. Cool deal for me :)

DGTess 11-12-2011 08:49 PM

Two things I hate most -- shopping, and crowds.

My family has done our Thanksgiving dinner on Saturday for several years now -- due to a sibling who always had to work on Thanksgiving. Even so, I've never seen a BF deal I couldn't pass up.

Give me a few websites and I'm a happy camper.

XAntoftheSkyX 11-12-2011 09:04 PM

Is it bad that whenever I see this thread I think of the song 'Friday'?

knight_shadow 11-12-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX (Post 2106201)
Is it bad that whenever I see this thread I think of the song 'Friday'?

Not as bad as thinking about Lil Kim when you see it.

DrPhil 11-12-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX (Post 2106201)
Is it bad that whenever I see this thread I think of the song 'Friday'?

Thank you for reminding us. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLiuwc0T_es

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...yEi6RPhwRkXsbk

christiangirl 11-12-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX (Post 2106201)
Is it bad that whenever I see this thread I think of the song 'Friday'?

So do I. It hurts my head. :(

AnchorAlum 11-22-2011 09:54 PM

There is absolutely nothing that I want badly enough to join in that insanity.

I spend the day at home, putting away my Thanksgiving tableware and linens and fall knicknacks I always set out, and getting out my Christmas stuff. It's just too insane to do any shopping, and who wants to sit outside Best Buy for a week to buy a $200 Sharp 42" LCD? When the store probably has ten on hand and you would be killed trying to grab one?

Not me.

NinjaPoodle 11-22-2011 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2106019)
Not everyone spends Thanksgiving Day stuffing themselves like a pig, with an obligatory family dinner that they really wish they could get out of. It doesn't mean anything to many of the non-native born American residents.

Personally, I would much rather work or shop at 9 or 10 on Thanksgiving evening than be dragged out of bed at 4 or 5 AM the next morning.


Ditto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2106143)
This. In fact, I will not set foot in a mall between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day unless there is absolutely, positively no way to avoid it.

Ditto

AznSAE 11-23-2011 06:27 PM

there is already 3 people waiting in line with tents in their pajamas outside the best buy where i live. freaking crazy!

NinjaPoodle 11-24-2011 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2106203)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMH6d4Adm9U
:p

christiangirl 11-24-2011 04:54 AM

One day, "Rebecca Black Friday" is going to be a Wheel of Fortune answer and this commercial will be to blame. :mad:

I saw that commercial tonight. I covered my ears.

KSUViolet06 11-26-2011 03:22 AM

My thing with Black Friday is that 99% of the time (unless it's a laptop or something) the thing you want will be 50% off the day after Christmas anyway.

Ex: That sweater you just threatened to cut someone over in Target for $12.99 will be $5 on 12/26.

nittanygirl 11-26-2011 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excelblue (Post 2106157)
I'll even pass up $200 MacBook Pro if that was a Black Friday deal.

If that was a Black Friday deal, I'm going to be seriously grouchy I missed out. My Macbook is ancient but I just can't afford a new one.

I got home from Thanksgiving with BFs family and my dad asked me if I wanted to do him a favor. I said sure, because really, what could it be?

Welllll it could be to go to WALMART at midnight to get this thing my brother wanted while my dad slept. :rolleyes:

But I got it! Woop!

DaffyKD 11-26-2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2106143)
This. In fact, I will not set foot in a mall between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day unless there is absolutely, positively no way to avoid it.

MC, if I didn't know better, I would have thought I wrote your message. :D If I absolutely MUST go to the mall before New Years, I go 15 minutes before they open so I don't deal with the idiots trying to find that perfect parking space, go to the one store I MUST go to and race out the door as fast as I can.

I have never braved Black Friday and I don't intend to break my record at this age.

DaffyKD

madoug 11-26-2011 12:35 PM

21 years ago, I went down to my local Walmart at 6am on Black Friday. I walked right in and picked up the item I wanted and checked out without any line. Very few people were there. Prior to that year stores open at 9AM. Now it has become a monster and I foresee Liability Insurance companies putting an end to the practice.

NinjaPoodle 11-27-2011 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 2108479)
One day, "Rebecca Black Friday" is going to be a Wheel of Fortune answer and this commercial will be to blame. :mad:

I saw that commercial tonight. I covered my ears.

I did too. :(


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