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NinjaPoodle 10-20-2011 11:26 PM

4.2 earthquake In the SF Bay Area
 
Second one we've had today:(

ASTalumna06 10-20-2011 11:31 PM

Our National President is out there and just posted on Facebook that there was a quake. Hope everyone is ok!

There was also a quake earlier in Hawaii. It's amazing all the natural disasters/crazy weather that has occurred in 2011 across the country.

NinjaPoodle 10-21-2011 12:08 AM

Yeah, it's a little one but 2 in one day is a little freaky.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAJM1LKI5A.DTL
2nd earthquake - aftershock - rattles Bay Area

Vivian Ho, Chronicle Staff Writer

Thursday, October 20, 2011


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(10-20) 21:01 PDT BERKELEY -- An earthquake measured at magnitude 3.8 struck the Hayward fault near Berkeley at 8:16 p.m. Thursday, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

The agency said it was the aftershock to the 4.0 quake that occurred just hours before in the same area.

The second quake was centered one mile east of Berkeley and was felt throughout the East Bay and San Francisco.

BART delayed service by 15 minutes after the quake.

In Oakland's Montclair District, the evening quake rattled the dinner crowd, particularly at Italian Colors on Mountain Boulevard, where a piece of plaster fell from the ceiling.

"It was three inches by five," said Michael Modos, the manager. "It was pretty dramatic."

Police reported no damage in Berkeley, nor any reports of serious damage in Oakland.

Although U.S. Geological Survey experts have officially determined from the location and depth that the second quake was the aftershock of the first one, geophysicist Rafael Abreu warned people not to get too complacent.

"When you have an area with such an active seismicity, it's hard to tell if you're really seeing if there's an aftershock or if it's just a regular earthquake," he said. "You should be prepared for more earthquakes to happen, whether they're aftershocks or not."

The earlier quake struck the Hayward Fault near Berkeley at 2:41 p.m.

The quake was centered 2 miles southeast of Berkeley, the agency said, and was widely felt in the East Bay and San Francisco.

There were no reports of damage from that quake. BART delayed trains for 15 minutes while workers examined the system. They found no problems.

"My hands are still shaking - my heart is just slowing down," Krys Freeman, a web manager for Greenbiz in Oakland, said minutes after the quake rattled her office on the eighth floor of a building at Frank Ogawa Plaza. "I'm afraid of heights, so I was thinking of exit strategies."

The quake may have felt stronger to many in the East Bay than its 4.0 magnitude would suggest because the epicenter was deep beneath the surface, about 6 miles, said Jack Boatwright, a seismologist for the U.S. Geological Survey.

"The path is very simple from a deeper quake," he said. "That simple path means it is felt very abruptly and very sharply, and that's why people felt it so strongly."

The quake was the same day as an annual Great California ShakeOut state earthquake preparedness exercise.

"You couldn't get any more 'ShakeOut' than this," Abreu laughed "I guess it was lending more credibility to the exercise."

Chronicle staff writers Carolyn Jones, Will Kane, Nanette Asimov and Allen Matthews contributed to this report.


E-mail the wrtiers at cjones@sfchronicle.com, wkane@sfchronicle.com, amatthews@sfchronicle.com, nasimov@sfchronicle.com and vho@sfchronicle.com.



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NinjaPoodle 10-21-2011 12:17 AM

Past 24 hours

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...11635821_n.jpg

From the USGS site

christiangirl 10-21-2011 04:38 AM

Like I said in the other thread, I missed both of them. On the news, they interviewed Berkeley students and said "Everyone we've interviewed said they felt it." I find that odd because everyone I've asked said they didn't. But I guess it's because I wasn't on that side of the Bay today.

Tulip86 10-21-2011 05:48 AM

One of my friends is in SF and said he missed the first one and barely felt the second.

excelblue 10-21-2011 06:38 AM

I'm actually a Berkeley student and was less than a quarter mile away from the epicenter during the first quake and approximately 3/4 mile away for the next one.

Didn't feel the first quake; I riding my bike over bumpy roads, so unless it was literally the big one, the road vibrations drown it out completely.

The second one, I felt: lots of rattling but no damage.

In case you were curious, the epicenter was right in front of the Clark Kerr Campus dorms for the first one. During the second one, it was exactly below the Pi Beta Phi house!

NutBrnHair 10-21-2011 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excelblue (Post 2101529)
In case you were curious, the epicenter was right in front of the Clark Kerr Campus dorms for the first one. During the second one, it was exactly below the Pi Beta Phi house!

Here's what I heard from a friend in the Bay Area:

"USGS and Google maps say the second big quake today (not counting the two little ones) just happened right under the Chi Psi house on Piedmont ave at Durant...about a block from the stadium that is getting retrofitted...and a block and a half from XO. It was 9 miles deep so felt all over the Bay Area."

dukedg 10-21-2011 09:33 AM

I work in the Embarcadero Center and I totally felt the first one but not the second (I was still at the work for the second). Being on the 19th floor is somewhat disconcerting in an earthquake!

I hope these are quakes that are reducing the tension on the Hayward fault. I believe the Hayward fault is the one they think is over due for the big one :(

NutBrnHair 10-21-2011 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukedg (Post 2101545)
I work in the Embarcadero Center...

Close to The Slanted Door restaurant? Love that place! Had a fantastic meal there last month.

TSteven 10-21-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukedg (Post 2101545)
I work in the Embarcadero Center and I totally felt the first one but not the second (I was still at the work for the second). Being on the 19th floor is somewhat disconcerting in an earthquake!

I hope these are quakes that are reducing the tension on the Hayward fault. I believe the Hayward fault is the one they think is over due for the big one :(

I am just South of Market near the Embarcadero on the 15th floor. We really shook yesterday afternoon. I think it may have had more to do with our building being on springs. In other words, the building did what it was suppose to do during an earthquake – give and take. But like you noted, it was quite disconcerting.

For the second quake last night, I was seated in a chair with little roller wheels. My chair "lurched" across the floor maybe a foot. While it wasn’t much, when you add the "sounds" of an earthquake (i.e. house and/or foundation moving, windows rattling, etc.), and knowing about the quake from earlier in the day, I admit I was on edge for a while. And any little creak or sound got my adrenaline pumping a tad.

DrPhil 10-21-2011 01:35 PM

Two small earthquakes in one day is scary. Yet I can't help but be amused because I am reminded of how people laughed when we east coasters were talking about our 3.0-5.8 earthquake.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A..._G7WaPt8KetKrw

This should be updated for the panicky Californians. :)

christiangirl 10-21-2011 01:45 PM

Darn those panicky Californians who didn't feel anything. :-p

NinjaPoodle 10-21-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 2101597)
Darn those panicky Californians who didn't feel anything. :-p

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2101593)
Two small earthquakes in one day is scary. Yet I can't help but be amused because I am reminded of how people laughed when we east coasters were talking about our 3.0-5.8 earthquake.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A..._G7WaPt8KetKrw

This should be updated for the panicky Californians. :)

lol!

TSteven 10-21-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2101593)
Two small earthquakes in one day is scary. Yet I can't help but be amused because I am reminded of how people laughed when we east coasters were talking about our 3.0-5.8 earthquake.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A..._G7WaPt8KetKrw

This should be updated for the panicky Californians. :)

:o

For what it is worth, I wouldn't say me being “on edge” was anything like or near a panic. Nor was I really scared. If anything, my “edginess” simply meant I was ready for a bigger one to hit. As such, I started making mental notes as to where my earthquake kit was located and I made sure to grab my mobile phone - just in case.

Regardless, it doesn't matter how many earthquakes I have experienced, or even how small they might be. Having the earth shift under me is disconcerting. I find it is similar to when I would “hear” a tornado coming. These sounds and motions are not the norm - even if they are "natural".

DrPhil 10-21-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 2101632)
:o

For what it is worth, I wouldn't say me being “on edge” was anything like or near a panic. Nor was I really scared. If anything, my “edginess” simply meant I was ready for a bigger one to hit. As such, I started making mental notes as to where my earthquake kit was located and I made sure to grab my mobile phone - just in case.

Regardless, it doesn't matter how many earthquakes I have experienced, or even how small they might be. Having the earth shift under me is disconcerting. I find it is similar to when I would “hear” a tornado coming. These sounds and motions are not the norm - even if they are "natural".

I agree 100%. I wish you had posted this in our east coast earthquake thread. :)

At least many Californians have an earthquake kit. Most of us don't. What is an earthquake kit besides what we keep in the closet in the event of a power outage? I guess I could Google it and let you Californians have your thread back. :p

dukedg 10-22-2011 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2101547)
Close to The Slanted Door restaurant? Love that place! Had a fantastic meal there last month.

Yes and I love Slated Door too -- YUM!

These quakes remind me that I really need to get some drinking water for emergencies. We just drink from the tap because it is soooo good, but that means we don't have any bottled water of any kind sitting around. I'll admit that I haven't had a formal earthquake kit since high school. Other Californians, do you all really have one packed in a box somewhere?

PeppyGPhiB 10-23-2011 01:23 AM

...patiently waiting for PacNW's "Big One"...

christiangirl 10-23-2011 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukedg (Post 2101726)
I'll admit that I haven't had a formal earthquake kit since high school. Other Californians, do you all really have one packed in a box somewhere?

No. However, I just Googled it and I happen to have most of that stuff in my apartment anyway.

VandalSquirrel 10-23-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukedg (Post 2101545)
I work in the Embarcadero Center and I totally felt the first one but not the second (I was still at the work for the second). Being on the 19th floor is somewhat disconcerting in an earthquake!

I hope these are quakes that are reducing the tension on the Hayward fault. I believe the Hayward fault is the one they think is over due for the big one :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 2101592)
I am just South of Market near the Embarcadero on the 15th floor. We really shook yesterday afternoon. I think it may have had more to do with our building being on springs. In other words, the building did what it was suppose to do during an earthquake – give and take. But like you noted, it was quite disconcerting.

For the second quake last night, I was seated in a chair with little roller wheels. My chair "lurched" across the floor maybe a foot. While it wasn’t much, when you add the "sounds" of an earthquake (i.e. house and/or foundation moving, windows rattling, etc.), and knowing about the quake from earlier in the day, I admit I was on edge for a while. And any little creak or sound got my adrenaline pumping a tad.

Are either of you in buildings above "fill" that isn't actually land but sand, rock, stuff left over from 1906, or sand that can turn unstable due to liquefaction? I'm thinking not since I remember a lot of retrofitting in that area after 1989, and when doing that a lot of archaeology work and I've seen the artifacts from the digging. My dad worked for Southern Pacific at 1 Market Street and their building was fine in 1989, and I got a total flash back about the Embarcadero Freeway.



Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2101648)
I agree 100%. I wish you had posted this in our east coast earthquake thread. :)

At least many Californians have an earthquake kit. Most of us don't. What is an earthquake kit besides what we keep in the closet in the event of a power outage? I guess I could Google it and let you Californians have your thread back. :p

I have the same stuff in Idaho in my "emergency kit" that I grew up with in earthquake kits. Water, food (dry and canned stuff, my cat's food, enough for a week), iodine tablets, bucket, shovel, flashlight that works on a crank, radio, batteries, phone cards, emergency blankets, work gloves, first aid kit, camp stove, propane, cookware, cat box & litter. This is all next to my camping gear so I have shelter and I have my bigger cat cage as well as the carriers near it. I need to add some flagging tape and/or spray paint so if there's a need to mark anything or leave messages (like Katrina "1 Dead in Attic" or that someone left the area) I can do that for myself or someone else. Oh and some people keep a fire arm and ammo, as well as some cash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukedg (Post 2101726)
Yes and I love Slated Door too -- YUM!

These quakes remind me that I really need to get some drinking water for emergencies. We just drink from the tap because it is soooo good, but that means we don't have any bottled water of any kind sitting around. I'll admit that I haven't had a formal earthquake kit since high school. Other Californians, do you all really have one packed in a box somewhere?

I've had one for "emergencies" though I'm not currently in California, more for snow related disasters. With technology it has been easy to add new things like better filters from REI for individual bottles. My family home is on bedrock and we have natural gas for our appliances so in 1989 I remember we were able to cook, take hot showers, do laundry, and boil water while the power was out. Our phone worked too, but now in the age of cellular most people probably don't have a regular phone, but I keep one because even without paid service you can call 911 if the wired lines are active.

I remember once a year we'd go through the kit and replace items, and since my dad did a lot of that there'd be a few days of eating Spam and Kraft Macaroni & Cheese since he liked those items and put them in the kit. I keep enough water for my cats and I have cans that I rotate out as well as kibble, since my cats eat a special diet, and a litter box and litter. None of my medications need to be refrigerated, but I always have a hoard saved up to last a month and swap it out to keep it fresh.

TSteven 10-24-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 2101882)
Are either of you in buildings above "fill" that isn't actually land but sand, rock, stuff left over from 1906, or sand that can turn unstable due to liquefaction? I'm thinking not since I remember a lot of retrofitting in that area after 1989, and when doing that a lot of archaeology work and I've seen the artifacts from the digging. My dad worked for Southern Pacific at 1 Market Street and their building was fine in 1989, and I got a total flash back about the Embarcadero Freeway.

My work building is on fill. Or at least most of the liquefaction maps show it as on fill. Home is on bedrock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 2101882)

I have the same stuff in Idaho in my "emergency kit" that I grew up with in earthquake kits. Water, food (dry and canned stuff, my cat's food, enough for a week), iodine tablets, bucket, shovel, flashlight that works on a crank, radio, batteries, phone cards, emergency blankets, work gloves, first aid kit, camp stove, propane, cookware, cat box & litter. This is all next to my camping gear so I have shelter and I have my bigger cat cage as well as the carriers near it. I need to add some flagging tape and/or spray paint so if there's a need to mark anything or leave messages (like Katrina "1 Dead in Attic" or that someone left the area) I can do that for myself or someone else. Oh and some people keep a fire arm and ammo, as well as some cash.

I've had one for "emergencies" though I'm not currently in California, more for snow related disasters. With technology it has been easy to add new things like better filters from REI for individual bottles. My family home is on bedrock and we have natural gas for our appliances so in 1989 I remember we were able to cook, take hot showers, do laundry, and boil water while the power was out. Our phone worked too, but now in the age of cellular most people probably don't have a regular phone, but I keep one because even without paid service you can call 911 if the wired lines are
Active.

I remember once a year we'd go through the kit and replace items, and since my dad did a lot of that there'd be a few days of eating Spam and Kraft Macaroni & Cheese since he liked those items and put them in the kit. I keep enough water for my cats and I have cans that I rotate out as well as kibble, since my cats eat a special diet, and a litter box and litter. None of my medications need to be refrigerated, but I always have a hoard saved up to last a month and swap it out to keep it fresh.

You are very well prepared - much more than me. :( I try to go through my kit at least twice a year.

While I am not on any prescription medication, I do include over the counter items like allergy pills, pain relieve medicines as well as a spare tooth brush, toothpaste, hand “washes” in liquid form, and other grooming and toiletries items - including “wipes”. One never knows when those might come in handy. :o

You noted two areas of importance that many people tend to forget. Items for their pets and cash on hand. I think people are more aware of including items for their pets now. However, many folk tend to forget that if the power is off, for the most part there will not be any ATMs working or any other devices that may need electricity. So having cash on hand is a good idea.

I also include a small notebook that has contact information for both local and out of state contacts. This is case, my mobile phone isn't working. A friend has her contact info laminated on a "one sheet" and includes info about her medical needs on the back.

There is also a neighborhood “meet up” space near my home in case of emergencies which is to serve as a local area for pooling supplies, use of phones, medical attention etc. for general use. The idea is that if those of us who have signed up for the "meet up space" do not show up or contact them to let them know we are fine, then they know to go looking for us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 2101808)
No. However, I just Googled it and I happen to have most of that stuff in my apartment anyway.

It is good to have the stuff, but you need to have them all together in one “kit” so that if/when you need to leave your house/apartment ASAP, you may grab your kit – and everything in it - on your way to safety. I keep mine in large backpacks that are tied together. So if/when I grab one backpack, I grab them both.

modorney 10-27-2011 08:57 AM

Just had another one - Richter 3.6 - at the same place as the last ones in Berkeley.

One item to keep for earthquakes is washwater (in addition to drinking water). I fill a couple of five gallon water jugs with tap water and put in a few drops of bleach to keep algae from forming.

As far as phones go, most likely the cell system will be overloaded, so having a land line is handy. If you have a fancy cordless phone system/message machine, etc., make sure you have a plain old dumb (non-ac powered) phone to plug in.

One of those nice topographic atlas map books would be handy if you might have to walk somewhere.


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