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naraht 10-01-2011 08:21 AM

How many initial chapters should pledges know?
 
I would expect every pledging program teaches where the fraternity/sorority is founded and for every one to talk about the second chapter (because that makes you national). My question is how many of the initial chapters of your GLO are pledges expected to learn in your chapter?

My chapter probably isn't standard for APO in that we were Kappa (#10), so it just seemed reasonable for the pledges to learn up through #10.

(Note, I personally can get up to chapter #31, that should be a requirement to be on National History committee, not to initiate. :) )

Senusret I 10-01-2011 08:52 AM

I am pretty sure that my APO chapter doesn't require this since we are obviously the most important chapter. LOL

When I became an Alpha, I am pretty sure we were expected to know all of the single letter chapters. I still remember all but three off the top of my head. (Yes, I just tried.)

DubaiSis 10-01-2011 09:35 AM

In the days of no hazing, you probably can't require them to know any, but your thinking is similar to my experience. Knowing so many sisters at my ripe old age I can name several chapters by letter now, but while in college I could name Alpha, Beta, Sigma, and only one more, where I had good friends.

33girl 10-01-2011 09:41 AM

Our big thing would probably be to know the four chapters that constituted our reorganization in 1914 - Alpha (Longwood) Alpha Alpha (Miami-Ohio) Alpha Beta (Truman State) and Alpha Gamma (Indiana U of PA). No other chapters are allowed to begin with Alpha, and Longwood is our only single letter chapter.

If it wouldn't have been for these ladies, we would have been toast. :)

AOII Angel 10-01-2011 11:23 AM

Other than Alpha at Barnard, I think we all know that Pi at Tulane was our second chapter. We're taught that Nu was our third and was started at NYU Law School when one of our founders was enrolled there (whether they "know" this for initiation or not is debatable, it is in the NM materials.) Our first International chapter is also included in those learning materials (Beta Tau at Univ of Toronto) but I doubt anyone memorized that...I don't know the chapter off the top off my head, and I know more chapter designations than the average AOII. Probably the only other chapter that they might know would be Omicron at Univ of Tennessee, our fourth chapter and oldest surviving chapter. I haven't seen our NM test since we Went back to regions. They may have to know their regional chapters now. Paging, AOIIalum!

DrPhil 10-01-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2096603)
In the days of no hazing, you probably can't require them to know any....

That is not true.

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Many Delta chapters expect women to know single letter chapters and chapters in their city and surrounding areas.

Also of importance is having a familiarity with chapters in your region and chapters with particularly rich histories that would be covered in Delta history books. Familiarity does not mean memorization but to not be clueless.

honeychile 10-01-2011 04:02 PM

We were to learn the ones in our District, as those were the chapters with which we were most likely to associate. We also answered our roll call with the name of a chapter, so everyone tended to know at least a few of those.

Lucky was the sister who had "Alpha Delta, Colby College, Waterville, Maine." Everyone joined the chorus on that one!

So, we had to know six, but ended up knowing more like 56.

KSUViolet06 10-01-2011 04:27 PM

Within my collegiate chapter, when I was a NM (back in 2004) we learned about Alpha (Longwood), our own chapter (Alpha Beta), and the other chapter in Ohio (Eta Iota.) Since we are the only NPC with 2 chapters in Alaska, we learned about those too (Eta Zeta and Zeta Mu.)

I'll confess to being a total nerd as a NM, going on Greekpages (remember that site?) and looking at the websites from other chapters. I learned a lot about other chapters that way and knew the chapter designations for at least half of our chapters if not more.

I'm going to brag a little bit. You learn a lot about different chapters when you are a volunteer. Since I've been volunteering for about 3 years now, I'm pretty sure I have 90% of our collegiate chapter's designations memorized. If you give me a school, I can give you the chapter.

/nerd alert.

Smile_Awhile 10-01-2011 04:39 PM

We learned about Alpha, our own, and the two other chapters in our province. We also had to know the other NPCs at our school- easy at a small school, but I can't imagine keeping them all straight at some place like Indiana!

As a nerd, I know other chapter designations, but it's mostly random ones.

psy 10-01-2011 04:59 PM

We learned our founding (not Alpha) chapter, our chapter, and the single letter chapters around us geographically (we're also single letter), although the last part wasn't official. I'm not sure why we didn't learn about the non-single letter chapters by us geographically (especially as we had a transfer or two from one of them), except that we are proud of how old our chapter is!

AlwaysSAI 10-01-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2096665)

I'm going to brag a little bit. You learn a lot about different chapters when you are a volunteer. Since I've been volunteering for about 3 years now, I'm pretty sure I have 90% of our collegiate chapter's designations memorized. If you give me a school, I can give you the chapter.
/nerd alert.

Same here. Since I serve on the Directory Committee for SAI, I review directories for all the chapters in my region and send them letter.

AOIIalum 10-02-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2096623)
Paging, AOIIalum!

Our gorgeous shiny brand new NME book includes Alpha and Pi chapters. It also refers to Sigma (Berkeley, 1st AOII chapter house), Beta Tau, and has a page on NPC too (Yes, I'm thrilled about that one!) If any alumna AOIIs want to know more about The Promise, please PM me, as I figure our collegiate AOII GCers will hear about it in chapter.

lovespink88 10-02-2011 10:33 AM

Am I the only one that doesn't understand the naraht's thread titles until I open up the thread and read what it's about? :o

Don't get me wrong, they're pretty interesting, but I just read them and I'm like "huh??"

AOII Angel 10-02-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AOIIalum (Post 2096784)
Our gorgeous shiny brand new NME book includes Alpha and Pi chapters. It also refers to Sigma (Berkeley, 1st AOII chapter house), Beta Tau, and has a page on NPC too (Yes, I'm thrilled about that one!) If any alumna AOIIs want to know more about The Promise, please PM me, as I figure our collegiate AOII GCers will hear about it in chapter.

Thank you!

AXEling 10-02-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 2096659)
We were to learn the ones in our District, as those were the chapters with which we were most likely to associate.

Ditto to this. We also learned our Alpha chapter. It was nice because we're especially close to two other AXS colleges (we visit fairly often).

Psi U MC Vito 10-03-2011 12:18 PM

We had to learn all of them. That was annoying since we don't go by the alphabet, so it was a bit more difficult then most would be.

Cen1aur 1963 10-03-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2096595)
I would expect every pledging program teaches where the fraternity/sorority is founded and for every one to talk about the second chapter (because that makes you national). My question is how many of the initial chapters of your GLO are pledges expected to learn in your chapter?

My chapter probably isn't standard for APO in that we were Kappa (#10), so it just seemed reasonable for the pledges to learn up through #10.

(Note, I personally can get up to chapter #31, that should be a requirement to be on National History committee, not to initiate. :) )

When I was in school, we had to know all of the single letter chapters, and the chapters at other schools near our school.

LaneSig 10-03-2011 03:06 PM

We learned Alpha, of course, and then our 2nd chapter, which was Gamma at Ohio Wesleyan (Sigma Chi skipped every other letter at first - the founders didn't want to name a chapter "Beta" due to a rivalry/feud with Beta Theta Pi). We also learned our 4th chapter, Eta, founded in "the deep south" at Ole Miss.

Other than that, we learned the other chapters in our province (Arkansas-Oklahoma) and a few others that were close by (Southeast Missouri State, University of Memphis). It was pretty much up to ourselves to learn the others.

Gusteau 10-03-2011 03:17 PM

The ones I remember being mentioned in The Cornerstone would be Cornell (obviously), our second chapter at New York Law, and our first chapter in Canada at Osgoode Hall (chartered on February 13, 1896).

As Associate Members we learned the states in our region, but not the chapters. Considering Pennsylvania alone has 12 chapters, I'm thankful for that!

aephi alum 10-03-2011 03:38 PM

IIRC, we were only required to learn about our Alpha chapter at Barnard, and of course our own chapter designation once we had one. Most of my chapter sisters knew which other schools in the Boston area had chapters (but not necessarily their designations).

Off the top of my head, I can remember the following single-letter chapters:
Alpha - Barnard (founding chapter)
Gamma - Columbia Teachers' College
Delta - Adelphi (longest continuously operating chapter)
Epsilon - Sophie Newcomb College / Tulane University (first chapter outside New York State)

(Beta Chapter was at Hunter College, but I had to cheat and look that up on the AEPhi web site :p )

pearlbubbles 10-03-2011 06:35 PM

We learned our own chapter, Alpha, and the others in the state. I think that's about it? Over the years, you pick up others, but I think those were the only really necessarily notable ones.

WCsweet<3 10-03-2011 08:54 PM

We learned about Alpha chapter and our own. We learned some about Alpha Kappa because it is the only other chapter in the state, but that was mainly because we participated in each others philanthropies and practiced recruitment together.

I had to look up our Beta Chapter, but that might be because it was only in existence for two years. Gamma and Delta are not active and hasn't been since 1912 and 1910 respectively. I'm curious to see how many single letter chapters are still active/are now re-activated. Re-activated doesn't seem like the right term.

psy 10-04-2011 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WCsweet<3 (Post 2097193)
We learned about Alpha chapter and our own. We learned some about Alpha Kappa because it is the only other chapter in the state, but that was mainly because we participated in each others philanthropies and practiced recruitment together.

I had to look up our Beta Chapter, but that might be because it was only in existence for two years. Gamma and Delta are not active and hasn't been since 1912 and 1910 respectively. I'm curious to see how many single letter chapters are still active/are now re-activated. Re-activated doesn't seem like the right term.

A few years old, but....

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MysticCat 10-10-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2096641)
Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2096603)
In the days of no hazing, you probably can't require them to know any . . . .

That is not true.

Yep. I think many GLOs have an exam that has to be passed before initiation. I know we do, and you have to answer all questions correctly.

It's been a while since I've looked at the exam, but I think it includes the first 3-5 chapters, and I know it also incudes all chapters in the probationary member's province.


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