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ZetaPhi708 09-12-2011 10:44 PM

A Fake PMN Just to Write an Article
 
A University of Tennessee @ Chattanooga student newspaper editor/reporter goes through Recruitment just to write an article...

http://www.utcecho.com/features/edit...ment-1.2570395

( In the print edition of the 9/8 issue, there are 2 Letters to the Editor about her "participation" but I could not find online versions posted on The Echo's website. )

katydidKD 09-12-2011 10:48 PM

That is two minutes i will never get back, ever. Her article...had no point.

DrPhil 09-12-2011 10:49 PM

womp womp

IrishLake 09-12-2011 10:52 PM

I was gonna say... she didn't expose anything, unless she had a wardrobe malfunction during pref. There was no point to that.

33girl 09-12-2011 10:53 PM

Ok, let me get this straight. This girl came back early, AND paid the recruitment fee, with no intention of pledging at all?

That's messed up. Not to mention incredibly stupid.

There are some comments if you scroll past the links to other articles.

ElieM 09-12-2011 10:54 PM

gosh - recruitment is noisy, stressful and rushed. Who knew?

katydidKD 09-12-2011 10:56 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8rrIYevONQ

i was all excited, expecting this kind of juice ^

ZetaPhi708 09-12-2011 11:54 PM

What was more upsetting to myself, and one of the Letters to the Editor pointed out also, is that she took a bid that could have been for another person.

*winter* 09-13-2011 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2090664)
That is two minutes i will never get back, ever. Her article...had no point.

Well...that's less time than the author wasted to produce an "expose" story of things we already know.

excelblue 09-13-2011 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZetaPhi708 (Post 2090694)
What was more upsetting to myself, and one of the Letters to the Editor pointed out also, is that she took a bid that could have been for another person.

This. That's what annoyed me the most about the whole article.

It only contained information that could have easily been found just by talking to someone or even searching on this forum, except with the writer's opinions injected.

I'm not sure if this is actually the case, but I get the feeling that she could have easily gotten the scoop by kindly asking panhellenic for permission to watch or something.

Xidelt 09-13-2011 06:46 AM

Besides being pointless, the article is poorly written. It had no conclusion. The author didn't draw any conclusions, disclose how far she got in the process, etc. Great job for Swiss cheese journalism!

AlphaFrog 09-13-2011 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsu2012 (Post 2090720)
wow u guys are pretty dumb. this girl wanted to give people a real experience of what rushing is like.

rushing sucks in general. the whole idea is awful because you don't really get to personally know the people rushing and you have to make crazy generalizations after a 10 minute interview with somebody.

it makes more sense to get to know the people you want to recruit way before recruitment. theres alot of places on campus where people go and a lot easier ways to have conversations and to get to know your future members. maybe if you dip****s really understood the article and knew how to recruit you wouldnt be getting so offended over the reality of it all.

This is funny. Bitter and reeking of rejection, and funny. Carry on.

BraveMaroon 09-13-2011 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsu2012 (Post 2090720)
you don't really get to personally know the people rushing and you have to make crazy generalizations after a 10 minute interview with somebody.

Wow, good thing that's not a scenario that's going to play out over and over and over again later in life.

If you think rush is tough, try interviewing in this job market - to say nothing of dating, parties...

Everyone is making quick judgements all the time. You don't have to like it, you just have to work it.

Oh, and I'd one of the d!psh!ts making hiring decisions. Don't call me, I won't call you.

jenidallas 09-13-2011 08:33 AM

We had a "fake" PNM go through at TCU this year too. She actually DID disclose herself though and the student life staff was apparently aware of her as they were urging houses to keep her through at least the second round.

This PNM was in her mid-30s, had children, and was upfront with every girl who spoke to her that she was writing a book about campus life and was going through recruitment to better understand the process from a PNM perspective. She basically interviewed each member who rushed her during their time together asking questions about sorority life, recruitment, etc.

I give her props for at least disclosing her motivations... but I know our girls didn't keep her her after round 1. I'm not certain if anyone did, despite the urging of the university. No one wanted her taking the space of someone who could actually accept a bid!

DubaiSis 09-13-2011 10:28 AM

I think the story of what rush is like is one that a lot of people would find interesting. It doesn't need to be an "expose" (really, it's not that exciting), but I think a person could tell a story worth reading about what happens. I remember reading a good one about a Northwestern University recruitment. She included the fact that she felt really bad about taking someone's spot, and she did not get as far as preference before dropping out.

And I think a woman, like the above, would be treated with courtesy and been given a lot of nuggets if she just asked. No, she couldn't sit in on voting, but I bet an ambitious journalist could get herself invited into the basement between parties, which would really be eye-opening to a lot of people who think these parties just magically HAPPEN.

DeltaBetaBaby 09-13-2011 11:04 AM

Many, many years ago, there was a Sassy Magazine journalist who actually did sit in on MS. I suspect it was a local, but they were definitely part of a formal rush.

FSUZeta 09-13-2011 11:51 AM

i believe that a few years back a young woman on the university of tennessee student newspaper staff went thru formal recruitment in order to create a story on formal recruitment.

AOII Angel 09-13-2011 12:11 PM

I wonder which chapter got this girl? I would have been pissed!

knight_shadow 09-13-2011 12:18 PM

First thing that popped in my head when reading this title: Jen K

/my only contribution to this thread

ebdelt 09-13-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenidallas (Post 2090756)
We had a "fake" PNM go through at TCU this year too. She actually DID disclose herself though and the student life staff was apparently aware of her as they were urging houses to keep her through at least the second round.

This PNM was in her mid-30s, had children, and was upfront with every girl who spoke to her that she was writing a book about campus life and was going through recruitment to better understand the process from a PNM perspective. She basically interviewed each member who rushed her during their time together asking questions about sorority life, recruitment, etc.

I give her props for at least disclosing her motivations... but I know our girls didn't keep her her after round 1. I'm not certain if anyone did, despite the urging of the university. No one wanted her taking the space of someone who could actually accept a bid!

I had friends tell me about a 30-year-old with a family going through recruitment, but I had never heard of her true intentions. I do know from friends in sororities as well as one who was a Rho Gamma that she was released from all 11 sororities after the first day.

AlphaXi_Husky 09-13-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2090861)
First thing that popped in my head when reading this title: Jen K

/my only contribution to this thread

Ha! That is seriously hilarious. And it makes me miss that show.

jenidallas 09-13-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2090861)
First thing that popped in my head when reading this title: Jen K

/my only contribution to this thread

<3 this... I *so* miss Greek!!!

barnard1897 09-13-2011 01:07 PM

Bahaha-Jen K!

thetygerlily 09-13-2011 01:18 PM

I like that her only two sources are people who are not Greek- herself, and someone who dropped out during the new member period. Very well rounded in getting all perspectives covered.

KillarneyRose 09-13-2011 03:19 PM

DubaiSis, I recommend a book called "Girls on the Verge: Debutante Dips, Drive-bys and Other Initiations" by Vendela Vida. In one of the chapters she went "undercover" to rush at UCLA and went so far as receiving a bid.

I don't approve of her having done that, but it's actually well written and she didn't appear to have an axe to grind with the greek system.

VandalSquirrel 09-13-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillarneyRose (Post 2090905)
DubaiSis, I recommend a book called "Girls on the Verge: Debutante Dips, Drive-bys and Other Initiations" by Vendela Vida. In one of the chapters she went "undercover" to rush at UCLA and went so far as receiving a bid.

I don't approve of her having done that, but it's actually well written and she didn't appear to have an axe to grind with the greek system.

I was going to mention this book as well. If I remember right she used fake info to sign up for rush, and really connected with a woman over Scandinavian literature. I think she went through all the way to bid day, even describing the painted cup given to her if I remember right.

Mevara 09-14-2011 04:42 PM

There was also the book "Pledged" that went beyond just Formal Recruitment. I read it so long ago I don't remember much except it talked about a few sororities (unnamed of course) at a specific campus.

amIblue? 09-14-2011 05:33 PM

Oh good grief! Shades of Jen K, indeed! This story has been done to death already and in a far more interesting manner, to boot.

Any woman who participated in rush could have written this article. "It was stressful! It was hot! We were crowded! They made us line up to go into the houses! I talked to a bunch of women! I had to dress up!"

I feel sympathy for the sorority who gave her a bid thinking that she would be a sister, but with the level of brain power displayed by the writer, I'm sure they're better off without her.

KillarneyRose 09-14-2011 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mevara (Post 2091247)
There was also the book "Pledged" that went beyond just Formal Recruitment. I read it so long ago I don't remember much except it talked about a few sororities (unnamed of course) at a specific campus.

Ugh; THAT book! Alexandra Robbins was so lazy doing her research. She called the sororities governing body the "Pan Hellenic" and she got my org's "secret password" wrong. Lazy!

NinjaPoodle 09-14-2011 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2090664)
That is two minutes i will never get back, ever. Her article...had no point.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 2090747)
Besides being pointless, the article is poorly written. It had no conclusion. The author didn't draw any conclusions, disclose how far she got in the process, etc. Great job for Swiss cheese journalism!


Agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mevara (Post 2091247)
There was also the book "Pledged" that went beyond just Formal Recruitment. I read it so long ago I don't remember much except it talked about a few sororities (unnamed of course) at a specific campus.

Worst book ever written.
There are a couple of threads here on GC about that book.

omegaphigirl 12-21-2011 05:31 PM

Jen K! hahahaha

I'm currently watching the fourth season of Greek on netflix.

NO SPOILERS!!! ;D


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