Bid Lists 2011
 

If you have access to a bid list, would you please post a link/the list itself here? I spend a great deal of time trying to hunt them down, and if y'all could help it would be gratefully appreciated by me and others, I am sure.

Auburn: https://fp.auburn.edu/greek/aunm11lst.htm

And I got the right year this time. ;)

Good idea, Belle, as I have already been up and down the Auburn thread several times today to get to the list again. I like that we can have them all in one place.

Great idea--I'm stickying this!

I made a spreadsheet of the Auburn bid list with columns for last name, first name, hometown, state, and sorority. There are multiple tabs for all NMs, Alabama NMs, OOS NMs, OOS Southern NMs, OOS non-Southern NMs and percentages by chapter.

Yesterday, I had people who wanted to see it PM me their email, but then I thought it would make more sense to upload it as a google document. Enjoy!

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spre...ZvRVE&hl=en_US

You so totally rock, violetpretty!

I am beginning to think Stillwater Press is not going to publish the bid list. :(

Violetpretty, you have made my stats geek heart sing! Love this! Thank you for sharing your spreadsheet. :)

OSU Bid List
 

FOUND IT! - http://www.stwnewspress.com/osu/x670...-Bid-List-2011

Heard or seen anything from Ok university?

I only saw a smattering of girls who were from outside OK, TX or KS. Is that in line with the general student population?

Do you mean University of Oklahoma? If so - no, I have not.

Yes, SWTXBelle, I meant Univ of OK. I was typing in a hurry and almost typed OU but was afraid that might be confused with Ohio so switched midstream!

I believe OU Bid Day was this past Monday or so...if I see one, will link it.

Thanks!

Per this report, about 70% of the Fall 2010 freshman class is in state, and about 20% are from Texas, with the remaining 10% from other states.

I couldn't resist doing a spreadsheet...

Assuming the Fall 2010 class isn't drastically different from the Fall 2011 class, Texas students are actually overrepresented in OSU sororities, and Oklahoma students are slightly underrepresented. Students from other states are pretty close to being evenly represented.

60.9% in state
29.4% Texas
9.6% other states

This doesn't really surprise me. Out of state students are more likely to want a home away from home, whereas Oklahoma students are more likely to have their friends. Not only do Texas PNMs want the home away from home, being Greek is popular in Texas, the PNMs know they need recs, and they have the resources to obtain them.

There didn't seem to be much in the way of patterns as far as OK/TX/other. Only one chapter stuck out with the most OK NMs. If a chapter had a lot of OK NMs, they had fewer TX NMs and vice versa. The other states group is too small of a sample to really draw conclusions about out of region PNMs being at a disadvantage to certain chapters.

Since there is a significant Texas presence at OSU, and the NMs come from a lot of the same cities in Texas, I assume it's not much different from knowing and wanting your hometown girls. Texas might as well be in state at OSU.

Here's the link: Oklahoma State 2011 NMs

By the way, when that Alabama list comes out, I am not doing that one by myself! Perhaps I could get 2-3 others to help with the data entry and then I could compile?

If I'm not mistaken, Google Docs allows the option to give others editing access to a file. This could make things easier, perhaps, especially if—assuming there were three people working on this—the groups were split equally among each. With 15 groups participating in formal recruitment, that would be five for each person assisting with the compilation.

That said, I wouldn't mind helping compile the Alabama list, no matter which way it happens. I was thinking at one time I'd seen a spreadsheet version of their bids…but just now I realized that it may have been one I made myself in order to organize them by group and figure out how many girls each group had gotten through FR. :D

It depends how they organize the list, whether it's by last name or by chapter. So either I'll split it up and give each person a section of the alphabet or a few chapters. I was just thinking each person would make an excel sheet, email it to me, then I'd put it together and make it a google doc.

The formatting was different with Auburn and OSU. When I copied and pasted the list for Auburn, it showed up as one NM per line, but with all her info in one cell so I still had to type it all into separate cells. OSU I couldn't paste into excel, so I copied and pasted into word and copied from there.

Wonderful, i'll count you in.

I'd be happy to help you with data entry on that one if you put it on Google docs. Just PM me. :)

I'm trying to remember if Bama did alphabetically or by chapter last year…hmm. It's probably still online…

ETA: And here is last year's, which was by chapter…hope they do it the same way this year. :)

Can multiple users update a google doc at the same time?

According to this, yes. (I'm actually kinda surprised by how many people can edit at once. 50 people for a spreadsheet. :eek:)

The one they had posted on the wall at The Vault yesterday was in alpha order...

Could have been quicker under the circumstances, and it's also possible that someone at UA News does the organizing of the names by each group, or that UA's Panhellenic Association simply sends them a spreadsheet with all the names, cities, and groups, and UA News only has to sort it by group that way.

I'm mainly going by the fact that last year, and every year back to 2005, UA News has posted it by chapter. :)

Yes

Attn: Violetpretty. Empty your inbox! I have put the Bama data for ZTA and Pi Phi into a spread sheet, ready to upload to your master.

And in case anyone is interested in the data so far, ZTA had 43.68% from AL, 80.46% from the south including AL, 16 states represented and 1 foreign country.

Pi Phi has 34.88% from AL, 79.07% from the south, 19 states represented and 1 foreign country.

So in 2 out of 2 chapters so far, they pledged more OOS than in state by a pretty substantial margin. And in 2 out of 2 they took a foreign student. I can't imagine THAT statistic holding up for long!

While it is very positive, I agree that is not the norm for Bama. 40 Alpha Gams were from OOS (84 New Members); one from Long Island, one from Connecticut, 1 from California. Most others were from the south.

Bama has been getting masses of OOS students because it's so hard to get into Texas and Georgia now and lots of kids want the big university experience. This has also benefited Auburn, Arkansas, and Ole Miss. Many of us have watched the big changes in new member distribution developing over recent years due to this.

I'd put Florida on this list too. When I was in HS, the only girls who went to Auburn and Alabama were those who had family ties. Now, I'm seeing a lot more South Florida women on Alabama and Auburn's bid lists because FSU and UF aren't the safeties they were before Bright Futures.

True, but one thing I noticed about Auburn was the few number of out of state new members in my Chapter and all were from adjacent states. :(

There are several sororities at AU--KD and AGD come to mind--that have traditionally taken mostly Alabama girls.

I think that it's only a matter of more time before this carries over to both Kentucky and Tennessee - while both are "less traditionally SEC universities" (notice the quotation marks, emphasis is mine) than those listed on Carnation's post, they are still -- SEC universities. :)

I found myself wondering if the out of state girls were legacies.

Generally, I've been delighted about the Alpha Gam results on a personal level: an awesome girl I know went Alpha Gam at Bama, and a couple of awesome girls I know went Alpha Gam at UGA.

Oh no, you didn't. Tennessee and Kentucky both have been members of the the SEC since there was an SEC. In other words, the SEC has never existed without either of these schools.

I would also urge you to take a look at UK's bid day pics that have been posted here on GC, and I think you'll see goings on that rival any SEC school. We're working on getting the houses at UT, but we are not the only SEC school sans sorority houses (i.e., Auburn).

I write from a UT alumna's perspective who spent the past decade in metro Atlanta teaching SAT prep to students who were desperately trying to get into UGA. Their backup schools not only included Alabama and Auburn, but also Tennessee. In fact, of the three schools, Tuscaloosa is the furthest away from metro Atlanta and more often than not was third choice. Moreover, Georgia began the Hope Scholarship in 1993, when it awarded $21 million to students and grew to the size that it is today (I believe just under $700 million). It took about 5-10 years for UGA's admissions to become as competitive as they currently are.

Tennessee began the Hope Scholarship within the last decade (I've just moved back and I'm no longer in the college prep business, so I don't have as much info down by heart). There are already signs of Tennessee becoming a more competitive school, and I would not at all be surprised to see this trend continue.

Tennessee and Kentucky less traditionally SEC schools...humph. Even Bear Bryant spent time at Kentucky.

OK...taking my hurt pride back to my newbie corner to sulk and continue to lurk. Love my school. Love my panhellenic - the women are so awesome!

I saw the list of PNMs at the AOII house the other day at Ole Miss...holy moly you should see all of the TEXAS PNMs! WOW! I would say that out of state student percentage is almost as high as the in-state percentage! And the amount of PNMs from New England has increased! I don't ever remember anyone from up "north" except for my roommate/pledge sister/BFF who was form New Jersey but she had Ole Miss ties! Oh and two Canadians and two Europeans this year!

All right, here's what is or purports to be the Bama list

http://blog.al.com/tuscaloosa/2011/0...e_ua_soro.html

Have a blast! Best to all Bama new members and any of their family members and friends who've been following the stories and comments.

I scanned your post quickly. I believe that you did not understand what I meant. I inferred that the trend would continue to include both TN and KY, which while members of the SEC do not have ultracompetitive Panhellenic recruitments -- yet. I did not mean it to be snarky; altough I could see how some might take it that way. I am very proud of both UK and my own chapter (check my personal profile). Welcome to GC, newbie. Don't sulk, come join in the fun. Oh-- and all Panhellenic women rock!!!! :)

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Go Big Blue!

Yes!

TSteven-- as a former cheerleader, I think you know what I am thinking now -even after all these years. Although the memory has begun to fade and I have more pressing matters to consider, like the rivalry between Illinois and Wisconsin. :)

It's done! The Alabama 2011 NMs spreadsheet.

Thank you SOOO much to DubaiSis, unarose, and myopicsunflower for making this possible!

There are a LOT of out of staters, even more than Auburn. According to their enrollment census, of the whole student body:
68% are from Alabama
32% are from out of state

Of the 2011 Panhellenic new members:
41% are from Alabama
59% are from out of state

A few things jumped out at me:
-Only 3 chapters had more than 50% of their new members from Alabama
-In total, 20% of the women receiving bids were not from the South
-6 chapters had 20% or more of their members from outside the South
-One chapter had about 47% of their new members from outside the South
-Often, the Alabama and Auburn chapters of the same NPC group tend to have the same trend of in staters vs out of staters or non Southerners. For example, AGD at both schools tends to have a lot of women from Alabama, and Gamma Phi Beta at both schools tends to have a lot of out of staters, and a lot of members from outside the South.

I had so much fun doing these spreadsheets, particularly Auburn and Alabama. We often read about how being out of state or from outside the South is the kiss of death at big competitive SEC schools...but I beg to differ!

*I considered NC, SC, GA, FL, MS, TN, KY, LA, TX, AR, and OK as the South. All other states I considered outside the South. Like Auburn, most NMs from VA were from the northern part of the state.

I think for me, especially after you shared this completed-with-stats version, one of the things that stood out most was this: that although both chapters had a good percentage of Out-of-State NMs, Chi Omega and Kappa Delta each had only 3 and 4 non-Southern NMs respectively (bless them).

I'm certainly hoping we get to analyze the geographical make-up of the new Delta Gammas (:D), though I don't find any evidence that a separate press release of NMs was made in 2008 for Alpha Phi, so…guess all I have right now is that smidgen hope. :cool:

Helping with this was entirely my pleasure (especially since it was for Alabama—where I would've gone if everything had lined up right, lol). :D

It was my pleasure. Now, I think we should all start haranguing the various school newspapers to post their rush results. We've seen the quality of so many of them - they can use some suggestions!

Hi there! First post @ greekchat!

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this! It is very informative and helpful.

My DD will be going through rush in the fall of 2012, probably at an SEC school. I'm sure I'm going to have questions, and it looks like I've found a great place to find answers!