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futuregreek12 08-12-2011 11:00 PM

Rushing AEPi, if I'm a jew, am I in?
 
I'm going to rush AEPi at mizzou in the spring. What I want to know about AEPi, generally, if your jewish do you get a bid pretty easy. I mean it's a jewish fraternity so I'd figure it shouldn't be too hard. But if you somewhat get along with the kids and your jewish are you in?

knight_shadow 08-12-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079124)
I'm going to rush AEPi at mizzou in the spring. What I want to know about AEPi, generally, if your jewish do you get a bid pretty easy. I mean it's a jewish fraternity so I'd figure it shouldn't be too hard. But if you somewhat get along with the kids and your jewish are you in?

Are you 54 years old?

futuregreek12 08-12-2011 11:13 PM

no i am going to be a freshmen. I don't see how this is a weird question

33girl 08-12-2011 11:19 PM

When you get to Mizzou in the fall, ask the brothers of AEPi the same question you asked us. They should be a lot more help.

wareagle93 08-12-2011 11:48 PM

I agree with 33girl. Also, just because you are Jewish, and it is a Jewish Fraternity doesn't necessarily mean you will get in. I'm an oos student, from pretty far from Auburn, Alabama, set to be a Freshman at AU this fall, and I attended multiple fraternity parties over the summer. I was very fortunate, and ended up getting bids from a few organizations that rarely extended bids to kids from out of state, let alone above the Mason-Dixon Line (and they made this known-not in an intimidating way, mind you).

They got to know me, "Ralph the Rushee," as a person, aside from where I was from and what grades I got in high school and what I did in terms of extracurricular activities/community work.

They want to get to know YOU, as a person. What your hobbies are, your personality, etc. It also helps to make good conversation and if the situation may warrant, tie something you've done in with what they, as an organization, stand for and preach. For example, "Oh, that's just terrific that (insert organization name here) has philanthropy work that aids those that are less fortunate/needy. Back home, I took part in a program sponsored by my church and we catered to the homeless by running soup kitchens and starting a canned food drive. It was really humbling to see how good I have it, and how unfortunately, not everyone can come home to a nice home-cooked meal multiple times a day. It's the little things that we take for granted, and nothing makes my heart warmer than to help out those who do not have the luxuries that I do. It's the least I could do."

Just be yourself and have fun! Also, please keep us updated!

futuregreek12 08-12-2011 11:55 PM

thank you for the support. I', a little worried about not getting a bid. I am kind of curious, and i have a few questions.
1. Will a 3.4 hs GPA and 24 ACT hurt my chances a lot.
2. I play basketball and do volunteer work, will that help me much?
3. Would knowing a kid, and the kid really like me who is already in a fraternity almost guarantee a bid?

Always AlphaGam 08-13-2011 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079137)
thank you for the support. I', a little worried about not getting a bid. I am kind of curious, and i have a few questions.
1. Will a 3.4 hs GPA and 24 ACT hurt my chances a lot.
2. I play basketball and do volunteer work, will that help me much?
3. Would knowing a kid, and the kid really like me who is already in a fraternity almost guarantee a bid?

How the heck would we know? I imagine that's the most appropriate answer to all of the above.

wareagle93 08-13-2011 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079137)
thank you for the support. I', a little worried about not getting a bid. I am kind of curious, and i have a few questions.
1. Will a 3.4 hs GPA and 24 ACT hurt my chances a lot.
2. I play basketball and do volunteer work, will that help me much?
3. Would knowing a kid, and the kid really like me who is already in a fraternity almost guarantee a bid?

Your GPA looks to be very solid (I had the exact same, but a higher ACT). A 24 is not horrible. So, as far as grades go, I personally would not worry. That's awesome that you played a sport and were involved in the community! I cannot speak on behalf of Missouri's Greek Life System, personally, but I would bet you a pretty good amount of money that the Fraternities at Mizzou are looking to see how involved you were (the ones I visited multiple times over the summer at AU seemed to like that I had done volunteer work lol!).

As for point number 3, I really cannot relate. I went to AU summer rush events not knowing a single person, and had to get to know everyone from scratch (out of the 4 bids I received, I only received one during my first time attending an event with that particular organization-I visited the other 3 again). I would certainly say it's a good sign that you are friendly with a guy in that fraternity, but it depends if he has a good amount of say in who does/does not receive bids.

If someone with more experience could add to this thread it would be greatly appreciated!

LaneSig 08-13-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079137)
3. Would knowing a kid, and the kid really like me who is already in a fraternity almost guarantee a bid?

No. You've got to meet other members of the chapter who can decide if you would fit in. Just having 1 friend in the chapter does not guarantee you a bid.

katydidKD 08-13-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079124)
I'm going to rush AEPi at mizzou in the spring. What I want to know about AEPi, generally, if your jewish do you get a bid pretty easy. I mean it's a jewish fraternity so I'd figure it shouldn't be too hard. But if you somewhat get along with the kids and your jewish are you in?

Yes you're absolutely guaranteed a spot

Leslie Anne 08-13-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079124)
I'm going to rush AEPi at mizzou in the spring. What I want to know about AEPi, generally, if your jewish do you get a bid pretty easy. I mean it's a jewish fraternity so I'd figure it shouldn't be too hard. But if you somewhat get along with the kids and your jewish are you in?

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079137)
thank you for the support. I', a little worried about not getting a bid. I am kind of curious, and i have a few questions.
1. Will a 3.4 hs GPA and 24 ACT hurt my chances a lot.
2. I play basketball and do volunteer work, will that help me much?
3. Would knowing a kid, and the kid really like me who is already in a fraternity almost guarantee a bid?

Hardly anyone has been willing to respond to your questions because they're kind of absurd. No one is ever guaranteed a bid. There's no such thing as just being "in". This is a fraternity, not a club you just sign up for.

What they are looking for in a member is not public information. We can't tell you how good your chances are. You will have to meet the brothers and they will decide whether or not to offer you a bid.

MysticCat 08-13-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 2079218)
What they are looking for in a member is not public information. We can't tell you how good your chances are. You will have to meet the brothers and they will decide whether or not to offer you a bid.

This. And also I wouldn't set my sights on just one fraternity before you even get to school. Check them all out -- you might actually find you fit in better somewhere other than AEPi.

futuregreek12 08-13-2011 02:03 PM

well im talking about a jewish fraternity, and there are not a ton of jews at mizzou. so shouldn't being jewish be close to guarantee a bid?

33girl 08-13-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079294)
well im talking about a jewish fraternity, and there are not a ton of jews at mizzou. so shouldn't being jewish be close to guarantee a bid?

Not if you're Jewish and a dickhead.

DrPhil 08-13-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079294)
well im talking about a jewish fraternity, and there are not a ton of jews at mizzou. so shouldn't being jewish be close to guarantee a bid?

Your question has already been answered. How about you interact with real life people and see if you can figure out the rest.

/lane swerve

knight_shadow 08-13-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079294)
well im talking about a jewish fraternity, and there are not a ton of jews at mizzou. so shouldn't being jewish be close to guarantee a bid?

Are you guaranteed a Jewish significant other just because you yourself are Jewish? No, because there are other factors that come into play. Same thing applies in Greek life.

Instead of trying to get absolutes from us, do what you've been told in both threads -- MEET THE GUYS ON CAMPUS.

katydidKD 08-13-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079294)
well im talking about a jewish fraternity, and there are not a ton of jews at mizzou. so shouldn't being jewish be close to guarantee a bid?

Yes that is totally their policy. I'm sure the back of their rush shirts say "if you're jewish, you're in" You have nothing to worry about!

ree-Xi 08-13-2011 05:37 PM

Pushy and Clueless are not personality traits that will go over well at any type of school's recruitment. You really need to chill out.

Hundreds of thousands (probably much more than that) of students have gone Greek without someone spoon-feeding them information.

SWTXBelle 08-13-2011 05:44 PM

I would suggest dropping the whole "kids" thing . You will be amongst young adults.

Also, the historically non-Jewish fraternities now take Jews; Jewish fraternities take non-Jews on many campuses. Welcome to 2011.

ellebud 08-13-2011 06:23 PM

OK, resident Jewish mother here: Please note to all that I pm'd the OP. I said, in brief, that he is either inappropriate or a troll. He did not respond. He did, however, post yet another thread on the same subject.

My take? Troll. I could give a myriad of reasons, but suffice to say, that repeat stupidity (on any subject) on a potentially controversial subject......troll (or dense).

TSteven 08-15-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2079301)
Not if you're Jewish and a dickhead.

RITY? ;)

jazing 09-25-2011 04:34 PM

Hello futuregreek. I am currently pledging AEPi at my university. It is a relatively moderate sized chapter (about 30), but it works pretty much the same. If you are Jewish, you will find it easier to get a bid due to easier to bring up topics. When I was rushing, bringing up being jewish and what that means around campus helps a lot. At my university, we also have a Hillel on campus, which AEPi uses pretty much for everything. Go to events, show them you are dedicated, and they give it. My friend wanted to join a fraternity, possibly AEPi, but he said one joke about not being Jewish which only gentile would laugh at. He didn't get a bid.

Also remember, nothing is ever guaranteed. It isn't "when", but "if". As in, "when I get my bid" or "when I get initiated", but "if I get my bid", or "if I get initiated". If you get your bid, PM me and let me know, I am curious how they do it there. I have heard many different things about AEPi pledging.

MysticCat 09-25-2011 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jazing (Post 2094941)
Hello futuregreek. I am currently pledging AEPi at my university. It is a relatively moderate sized chapter (about 30), but it works pretty much the same. If you are Jewish, you will find it easier to get a bid due to easier to bring up topics. When I was rushing, bringing up being jewish and what that means around campus helps a lot. At my university, we also have a Hillel on campus, which AEPi uses pretty much for everything. Go to events, show them you are dedicated, and they give it. My friend wanted to join a fraternity, possibly AEPi, but he said one joke about not being Jewish which only gentile would laugh at. He didn't get a bid.

A suggestion that I truly mean in the most friendly way possible: You're a pledge. Of course can you relay your own experience, but you're not yet in a position to give advice about getting bids yet. Wait until you've been an active for a while for that. ;)

aephi alum 09-25-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by futuregreek12 (Post 2079124)
I'm going to rush AEPi at mizzou in the spring. What I want to know about AEPi, generally, if your jewish do you get a bid pretty easy. I mean it's a jewish fraternity so I'd figure it shouldn't be too hard. But if you somewhat get along with the kids and your jewish are you in?

Oh yeah, if you're Jewish you're totally in. We do the same type of thing in AEPhi - of course NPC recruitment works differently, but all Jewish PNMs automatically get invited back to all parties and automatically go on the first bid list during formal recruitment. Similarly, all Jewish PNMs who attend informal recruitment automatically get bids.

</sarcasm>

No, being Jewish won't automatically get you into a Jewish GLO. You will just have to rush and see whether you are extended a bid. Also, remember that rush is a mutual selection process - you may get to AEPi and realize that you don't feel comfortable there.

Evan0g 10-02-2011 02:18 PM

I'm an AEPi and although we do have a small chapter size, we don't easily give out bids. Don't forget though that a bid means nothing. You still have your pledge period and that's what counts. I've heard of other fraternities bidding 50 people guys and cutting 40 of them.


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