boots to one of the rush days?
 

I was thinking for philanthropy night I would wear this dress

http://www.dillards.com/product/GB-G...header_juniors

with these boots. It will be October

http://www.stevemadden.com/Item.aspx...077&np=127_282

Do you think this is alright?

Boots are OK in October, but that dress looks really summery.

From a guy's point of view: You are kidding, right?

My sister, who was reading over my shoulder said, "Pond life?" (Brit for 'bottom feeder').

Comment: Please don't. I think it could hurt your chances.

Ladies, Please back me up or tell her that as a guy I just don't get it. I think she needs guidance on what floats during rush.

Stay in your lane. I'm willing to hazard a guess that "from a guy's point of view" doesn't mean jack shit in sorority recruitment.

To the OP, I love love love the boots, but agree with 33girl that the dress looks summery. Now, it might be appropriate in, say, Georgia, but October recruitment in the North could make it a bit chilly, and such a summery dress would be inappropriate. There are some cute updated sweater dresses with longer sleeves out there that might look good with the boots.

This is all from a northern standpoint, I'm sure some of our other posters from differing regions can give some region-specific advice in terms of what may or may not be appropriate for recruitment in that region in October.

i love the dress-i am not a fan of boots and dresses, but that is just me(and dekeguy and sister!).

october though......depends where you are. i agree with 33 and agzg that, up north, the dress should be retired until spring. down south, where it can still be as hot as blue blazes, you probably could get away with it.

Thank you for your gracious comment!

I do, however, recall that I have never seen any thread titled as "A question for the boys" or "I need a guys thoughts on this" etc. that wasn't filled with many comments from the distaff side of GC. So, I wonder why I am ordered to stay in my lane when gender restrictions apparently do not apply to the ladies.

As to the value of my opinion, please note that I politely requested either agreement or disagreement to serve as useful advice to the one asking for it, not vulgarity. If one wishes to be respected as a lady one must conduct herself as such. The thought crosses my mind that the gracious content of your commentary might cause your advice be called into question as to its value in sorority recruitment.

I am more than willing to stipulate that my point of view might well have very limited value in this issue, although my sister tells me that my input was a good call. She tells me that because of the very limited time available for the chapter to get to know a prospective new member the candidate must be careful to project her persona in every respect in the most positive way.

So, as limited as the value of my comment might be, my original submission stands as posted.

The deal is that your "advice" is basically worthless, especially since you have to qualify it and ask for reinforcement. You also come across extremely pretentious.

As to why girls comment on guys threads without getting called out:
1. Sometimes we do get called out
2. Guys rush just isn't as systematic and complicated as girls rush, with few exceptions.
3. Many girls here have actively participated (on the Fraternity side) of rush...with even fewer exceptions.than #2, no guys have actively participated in girl's rush.

Back on topic: love the boots, love boots with dresses, agree on the dress being too summery anywhere where boots would be in season.

Back to a girl's opinion, although one dusty with age. I hate boots with dresses, but if you wanted to wear the combo, they need to both be appropriate for the season. I think that dress is cute cute cute, but too summery for most of the US in October.

Taking in mind my first statement (that I hate dresses with boots), I went looking on the Dillards website to see if there was anything I thought was maybe a bit more appropriate and could possibly be worn with boots, I found this http://www.dillards.com/product/B.-D...header_juniors. Don't shoot me if you think it's ugly - I was just taking a stab.

And here's a caveat for you. Using the pictures from UGA's rush that is currently going on, it looks like hemlines are mercifully dropping a bit. A lot of what I saw on the Dillards website was seriously short. Now part of that is probably that the models are Amazons, but I'd probably follow the lead of those highly stylish girls at UGA and bring it down an inch or two.

Thanks everyone. That is what I've had a hard time with... Rush is in the beginning of October and it is also in California. So I am not used to what people wear. It seems like they still dress summery there in October. I will ditch the boots but they will definitely be worn a lot this season.

I concur with everyone else who says the dress, while cute, might be a bit too summery for October in most places. Also, it's pretty close to white. I won't, however, call you "pond scum" for suggesting it.

I think the mixing of dresses and boots, or wearing boots in general, might be based on where you're rushing. I rushed in February in Rhode Island, so the dresses-and-boots mix was hardly the jawdropper it appears to be in some locales. Some women tend to walk very heavily in boots so, if you're a clomper, I'd stay away from them in favor of ballet slippers or some other cute flats.

I love ballet slippers :-) I'll go with that for pref night then? Any suggestions on pref dresses then? DubaiSis-thanks for the other suggestion for the dress. I do think it's cute, but I'm not sure about the colors on me. I'm quite light with light light blonde hair.

In October that dress may be inappropriate due to weather, however even if you wore it in summer please make sure the "subtle mesh underlay" isn't a "subtle show of I see London and France" and stand in bright light to be sure.

I'm not a fan of those boots, mostly because of how they look on the model on the page, like they are too big of a diameter for her leg and pants would be better or she's playing dress up.

Try to find pictures of last year's rush at your school or one geographically similar to use as your guide. There were girls in the UGA first round wearing dresses nice enough to be worn at some schools' preference nights. Weather trumps all, so if you're going to school in San Diego, that dress may not be too far off of just right, although probably not for preference. And probably something a little darker/brighter, just to make sure you aren't committing any faux pas. When in doubt, don't wear white.

Straying off topic, Vandal, I agree with you on the diameter of the boot, but if put on an actual human girl who eats more than a cracker a day, they may not look like she's playing big girl dress up. Still, I'd rather see them worn with skinny jeans. But not to rush, of course.

Greekdancer: I just wanted to concur with the previous posters that the dress, while very cute, is probably a bit summery for October. Plus, I would personally not recommend boots with a hemline that high or a dress of that style. (Being perfectly candid: I'm not a big boot fan myself.) Also, while the belt on that particular dress looks nice, I am seeing a lot of very clunky looking belts being paired with otherwise adorable dresses this year out and about. To me it looks uncomfortable and takes away from the overall look.

Greekdancer: I just caught you said "...in California." While there can be a big difference in weather in October (Humbolt area versus sunny San Diego) I would personally stay away from the boots.

If you're set on the dress, get a darker colored cardigan to go with it. If you're not set on the dress, then look for one that is less summeyr. There are tons of really cute dresses out right now that are more appropriate for fall. It's also depends on the part of the country you're in. Where I live, the cute dress with boots look is very appropriate, however I am not sure about the west coast, hopefully one of the west coasters will let us know.

Thank you! Any store suggestions for pref night attire? My school stresses no semi formal or formal, but it says "nice dress you would wear to an afternoon wedding" I've done a lot of looking, but I always like the outside opinions because I don't always make the best fashion decisions!

I'm not sure where you're going through recruitment but I have NOT seen that look at UofA (Arizona). I thought the dress was definitely summer and wouldn't work with either color of boots. Maybe the polyvore gurus on GC can put together a dress and boots outfit that works?

yeah I think I'm going to ditch the boots. I'm from southern CT in the Fairfield county and that is how we normally dress a lot. I will ditch the boots for recruitment but I would loveee the idea of putting some outfits together! I like to look very classy and elegant :-)

maybe ellebud will come on and give this girl some california advice!

Or LucyKKG as she's a Northern California girl, if the OP wants perspective from different parts of the state.

Kind of off-topic, but I wish I was 17 so I could wear this. It's seriously very cute.

http://www.dillards.com/product/Sequ...Dresses_062311

I'm a southern transplant (grew up in IL), and I've never been to Cali, but Fall wedding says this to me:


http://www.dillards.com/product/Gian...ccasion_060111

http://www.dillards.com/product/Calv...ccasion_060111


http://www.dillards.com/product/Mac-...ccasion_060111


If you're short:
http://www.dillards.com/product/I.N....Dresses_062311

If you're tall (and wear a cardigan:
http://www.dillards.com/product/Catc...Dresses_062311

AlphaFrog,
I would suggest that your comment is not 'the deal'. It is that in your opinion my 'advice' is basically worthless. Very well, I have no argument with your opinion. I just don't happen to agree with it. My 'advice' was offered constructively and seems to be supported by several further comments from later posters. As to qualifying it and asking for reinforcement it seems to me that seeking concensus or inviting differing views hardly establishes the 'worthlessness' of my observations but rather attempts to ensure the usefulness of my input.
I don't recall saying anything about girls not being called out. I recall pointing out that it is apparently standard practice for 'girls' to comment on guy centric threads and issues and therefore it seemed appropriate that the correlary would hold true as well. As to the differences between fraternity and sorority rush and the degrees of cross participation therein, I fail to see the relevance of your argument in addressing whether or not it is a good idea to wear a specific outfit for a specific rush activity.
As to my being pretentious, I'm sorry if I seem that way to you, but would you really want a 34 year old lawyer to come off as an inarticulate adolescent?
I note that many CG regulars are in their 30s and come off a bit more polished than teenaged undergraduates or overaged wannabe kids, but I don't really think that qualifies as pretentious. On the contrary, I submit that acting one's age and drawing on one's experience seems to me to be a valid approach.

Just because one is "Polished" or "articulate" doesn't necessarily mean one must revert to the writing style of one CS Lewis.

You're not getting the point that it's inappropriate for members of non-NPC groups to comment on anything relating to NPC recruitment, up to and including wardrobe.

We NPC members may not agree on outfits, but we're all well within our knowledge and right to give "regional" opinions about what would or would not be appropriate for our regions, having gone through dress checks as collegians ourselves.

I've seen people give unsolicited opinions on GC for far worse subjects than a guy giving a PNM his opinion on recruitment clothing. OK, so maybe recruitment is one of the times when we ladies don't dress to impress the male species. I still feel that dekeguy had every right to give his opinon.

I have loved all of the dresses posted in this thread -- especially those from Dubai Sis and ree-xi. I think that the OP has gotten some valuable information on what to consider while choosing recruitment clothes. :)

If I were going to a wedding this fall in Northern California I'd consider some of these, however what I'd truly wear depends on the venue, time of day, and the personality of the couple/style of the wedding.

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/adrianna...esultback=6816

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/js-colle...esultback=2794

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/adrianna...esultback=4618

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/patra-il...esultback=7240

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/patra-bo...esultback=1710

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...D2%26spc%3D156

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...D2%26spc%3D156

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...D1%26spc%3D156

I want this dress, and I could wear it to some weddings in my social life, but probably not for pref. Who am I kidding, I'd probably have worn this to pref because that's just how I roll, and I'd turn it. http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/aidan-ma...-8000017-0-1-2

The dress options given here just keep getting better ...:)

OMGPOCKETSLOVE!!!

Please note that my 'Polished' comment referred to 'thirty-something' GCers in general. I do aspire to be 'articulate' as it is afterall rather stock in trade for a lawyer.
Since the late CS Lewis, DPhil, DLitt, etc. predeceased me by quite a few years I doubt if it would be possible to 'revert' to his writing style, unless one put stock in reincarnation. If, however, my writing style suggests his abilities with the English, inter alia, language then I am highly complimented and grateful for your comment to that effect.


Side thought, Quo usque tandem...

THIS. :D Paging ellebud!
(Not to diminish the pretty dresses already linked, of course. But when I read the OP, I immediately thought of ellebud.)

The dresses above are great, but again, might I suggest the model eat a cracker or something? Maybe splurge and eat a carrot? The one in purple looks like a holocaust victim.

So, it is appropriate for your half of the human race to comment on 'guy centric' topics but inappropriate for me to offer what is meant as a bit of helpful thought to a 'girl centric' topic? What is that word that comes to mind just now? Oh yes, SEXIST. Was that the point I was supposed to get.



barbino,

Thank you very much for your fair minded and generous comment. I do appreciate your words. I was somewhat surprised by the negative reactions by some toward what was intended to be helpful. Observing my sister and her friends dress styles I got the distinct impression that the proposed outfit might have had a negative effect on the prospective's chances based on how little time was available for anyone to really get to know her. I figured it was time for her to stick by the old saying 'put your best foot forward'.
Again, thank you.

This one is lovely.

I'll admit my choices are tainted by my own style preferences and body shape, but the hardest thing at this point of the year is finding something that doesn't scream summer in color or fabric. I also tried to keep it under $200 as a lot of what I like is quite a bit more price wise.

Oh my, I want this dress, even though it isn't green and gold sequins. http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/aidan-ma...esultback=3192

Well hello, this dress solves my torso/waist drama and fulfills my sequin needs without taking it too far http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/calvin-k...esultback=5006

There's a difference between sounding mature and articulate, or "polished," as you said, and sounding pretentious. Also, just speaking for myself, my writing style on GC is way less formal than it is in my professional life or personal life. I'd imagine that I'm not the exception in this case.

Calling an 18-year old's outfit selection for rush "pond scum" is pretentious and lame. Note that the women on this board have offered suggestions but not judgements. There's a difference!

If fraternity members want to tell sorority members to stay in their lane in regard to fraternity rush, that's their right. I am telling you now, stay in your lane. Women dressing for sorority rush are not dressing for dudes. Furthermore, I don't see how comments like "pond life" EVEN IF YOUR SISTER SAID IT are helpful.

Also, blow me on the sexism front.

Though I fully believe there are body image issues in the fashion industry, I don't think we should body shame women who may naturally have bodies that are very slim, and extending from that, some women may have health issues that prevent weight gain. As women, let alone sorority women, the prevalence and risk of eating disorders is one we're no stranger to, and body acceptance and health needs to cover the whole spectrum of women, and men.

I like dresses that allow me to add something with accessories if I want to, but also let me be savvy yet alluring.

I agree on both counts. :)