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PiKA2001 07-21-2011 04:48 PM

Michele Bachman's Migraines- Presidential Disqualifier or Sexism?
 
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She doesn't have a life-threatening illness. She is not experiencing the lead poisoning that Andrew Jackson was suffering from the un-removed bullets in his body. She has not suffered a heart attack as Eisenhower had in the year before he ran for reelection. She is not even prone to a reoccurring psychological malady, like depression as Abraham Lincoln was. Moreover, women in their forties and fifties are often in better health than men of the same age. Is there a reason President Barack Obama, a decades-long cigarette smoker, has not been required to submit to a chest x-ray or lung scan?

As an individual who has had chronic migraines for the past fifteen years, I can attest to the fact that that they are three things: painful, inconvenient, and controllable. As the medical doctor for the House of Representatives explained yesterday, migraines "have known trigger factors" (e.g., wine and chocolate) and those can be avoided.

Simply put, this is a manufactured issue and a sexist attack to stop Bachmann's surging poll momentum. Let's face it: in most polls, she is running either just ahead or just behind Mitt Romney. What better way for one of her GOP opponents (this story broke in the Daily Caller, a Republican online news site, meaning this smear was likely done by a Republican, not a Democrat) to undermine her growing support among religious conservatives and those aligned with the Tea Party movement. After all, questioning John McCain's health and senility helped the Democrats win in 2008.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lara-m..._b_906126.html

I'm not a Bachmann supporter, in fact I hope she doesn't get close to getting the GOP nomination but I still think people making her migraines a big deal is ridiculous. Oh well, I guess we'll just all sit back and watch her get steamrolled over like Palin and Clinton did. Got forbid we ever have a President that menstruates.

knight_shadow 07-21-2011 04:52 PM

It'll stop being an issue when she releases the long-form medical records.

Seriously, though, migraines suck but they're hardly a disqualifying factor when it comes to doing a job. They need to leave this woman alone.

AOII Angel 07-21-2011 05:02 PM

I can't stand Bachmann, but I'm so sick of hearing about her migraines and her "anti-Catholic" church. Seriously, has anyone ever heard of Martin Luther? I don't know if it's sexism. More women than men have migraines so I suppose a man with migraines would get the same shit. I probably have worse migraines than she does, but I wouldn't think that precludes her from holding the top office in the country. They make good medicine for that these days. Maybe 20 years ago it would have been a bigger problem.

agzg 07-21-2011 05:08 PM

It's not her migraines that disqualify her for the presidency, it's her batshit crazy.

Honeykiss1974 07-21-2011 05:09 PM

Migraines - seriously? Goodness knows I think she is two sandwiches short of a picnic basket but migraines? If "they" are going to railroad a woman, respect her enough to do it with something more substantial (personal financial activity, work/voter record, etc.) than migraines.

BluPhire 07-21-2011 05:41 PM

I hope she does get the GOP nom.

Here poll numbers against Obama are horrible.

agzg 07-21-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974 (Post 2072304)
Migraines - seriously? Goodness knows I think she is two sandwiches short of a picnic basket but migraines? If "they" are going to railroad a woman, respect her enough to do it with something more substantial (personal financial activity, work/voter record, etc.) than migraines.

Husband whose clinic prays away the gay and accepts Medicaid would be a good starting point.

Then we can talk about her time with the IRS. Why does the Tea Party love her so much?

DrPhil 07-21-2011 06:32 PM

A combination of sexism and the tendency for people to focus on potentially minute things.

Presidents JFK, Grant, and Jefferson are reported to have had migraines.

DrPhil 07-21-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2072298)
They need to leave this woman alone.

I believe they wouldn't be bothering her so much if she wasn't a woman. With more women having migraines than men, as far as many are concerned, that adds to the emotional and irrational gender stereotype. Men who have migraines have that awesome testosterone and masculinity to buffer it all.

It's bad enough if a chick becomes president--with their hormones and crying and stuff--don't let one with migraines become president. Then there will be bipartisan bickering, wars, dirty politics, and an economic crisis. Oh...wait....

Leslie Anne 07-21-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2072302)
It's not her migraines that disqualify her for the presidency, it's her batshit crazy.

^^^ This.

lovespink88 07-21-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974 (Post 2072304)
Goodness knows I think she is two sandwiches short of a picnic basket but migraines?

WIN.

Drolefille 07-21-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2072302)
It's not her migraines that disqualify her for the presidency, it's her batshit crazy.

http://i.imgur.com/CAoTT.jpg

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2072324)
Husband whose clinic prays away the gay and accepts Medicaid would be a good starting point.

Then we can talk about her time with the IRS. Why does the Tea Party love her so much?

http://i.imgur.com/aYy2n.gif


I believe the speculation is that Pawlenty's campaign is responsible as he has several people working for him who used to work for Bachmann.

She should NEVER EVER BE PRESIDENT OF ANYTHING including the local PTA, or Justin Bieber's fan club, but the migraine thing is unrelated.

33girl 07-21-2011 10:27 PM

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Since neither Kennedy's philandering nor his migraines were questioned when he ran for the presidency in 1960
No, people just thought he was going to make us all pay taxes to the Vatican.

And yeah, there are things that disqualify her before even getting to the migraines. That this writer would think it's the only thing just shows her jackassitivity.

IrishLake 07-21-2011 11:22 PM

This conservative can't stand her.

Shit, I can't stand any of the current idiots who think they should run on the republican ticket, and it has nothing to do with migraines.

PeppyGPhiB 07-22-2011 12:16 AM

It's offensive that anyone, including the media, would treat this as an issue. Someone worthy of the presidency is worthy of scrutiny on issues such as the economy, foreign policy, blah blah blah, and her opponents have plenty of fire power in that arena. Why is MB getting questioned about her migraines instead of her plans for a country with her in charge?

I'm in no way a supporter of MB, but I live with migraines, and it's totally treatable. Most of the women I know get them on occasion, and women are three times more likely to get them, because of hormones. So I definitely think this is veiled sexism. Maybe MB's campaign should point out to the media that more men get prostate cancer than women get breast cancer?!

FDR was in a wheelchair. Kennedy had back problems. Taft was so overweight they had to put a new (bigger) bathtub in the White House. And as pointed out, Obama is a smoker. Those are all health issues that could/may have impacted America, but I don't think we should expect anyone in the Baby Boomer generation (likely the generation of whomever will be our next president) to have absolutely no health issues. If anyone in this country gets good medical care, it's the president.

AlwaysSAI 07-22-2011 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2072324)
Husband whose clinic prays away the gay and accepts Medicaid would be a good starting point.

I kind of liked her. And, then ^^^. No thanks.

Drolefille 07-22-2011 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 2072406)
It's offensive that anyone, including the media, would treat this as an issue. Someone worthy of the presidency is worthy of scrutiny on issues such as the economy, foreign policy, blah blah blah, and her opponents have plenty of fire power in that arena. Why is MB getting questioned about her migraines instead of her plans for a country with her in charge?

I'm in no way a supporter of MB, but I live with migraines, and it's totally treatable. Most of the women I know get them on occasion, and women are three times more likely to get them, because of hormones. So I definitely think this is veiled sexism. Maybe MB's campaign should point out to the media that more men get prostate cancer than women get breast cancer?!

FDR was in a wheelchair. Kennedy had back problems. Taft was so overweight they had to put a new (bigger) bathtub in the White House. And as pointed out, Obama is a smoker. Those are all health issues that could/may have impacted America, but I don't think we should expect anyone in the Baby Boomer generation (likely the generation of whomever will be our next president) to have absolutely no health issues. If anyone in this country gets good medical care, it's the president.

I really hope not. I'm so over the boomers. Obama is just on the youngest edge of the group, or out of it entirely depending on the measure. We do not need to put a previous generation back in charge. I seriously believe it would harm equality, healthcare, and war policies in a way I'd really hate to see. Not that there's no baby boomers who wouldn't, but that both statistically the trend bears out and individualistic the candidates Suck.

This isn't really about anyone here, so I hope no one takes it that way, but I'm sure someone will.

PeppyGPhiB 07-22-2011 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2072413)
I really hope not. I'm so over the boomers. Obama is just on the youngest edge of the group, or out of it entirely depending on the measure. We do not need to put a previous generation back in charge. I seriously believe it would harm equality, healthcare, and war policies in a way I'd really hate to see. Not that there's no baby boomers who wouldn't, but that both statistically the trend bears out and individualistic the candidates Suck.

This isn't really about anyone here, so I hope no one takes it that way, but I'm sure someone will.

Baby Boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. So, roughly ages 65-47 now. Not many people with the experience and public notability to make it to President at age 46 and under.

PiKA2001 07-22-2011 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2072413)
I really hope not. I'm so over the boomers. Obama is just on the youngest edge of the group, or out of it entirely depending on the measure. We do not need to put a previous generation back in charge. I seriously believe it would harm equality, healthcare, and war policies in a way I'd really hate to see. Not that there's no baby boomers who wouldn't, but that both statistically the trend bears out and individualistic the candidates Suck.

This isn't really about anyone here, so I hope no one takes it that way, but I'm sure someone will.

What, you want someone from the (current) internet generation to become president in 2012? Hate to burst your bubble but they wouldn't be able to meet that pesky 35 years of age requirement.;)

Back on topic-

Bachmann's past and general kookiness gives her adversaries more than enough ammo to take her on so to make an issue of her "woman problems" just comes across as just completely unnecessary (to me at least). I feel that when a male politician says something crazy it often goes relatively unnoticed but when a female says something off it becomes front page news and fodder for the pundits and comedians. Jimmy Carter and Reagan had both said during their presidential campaigns that they had seen UFO's as well as (more recently) Dennis Kucinich during the last democratic primaries. The only reason I know that fact about those three men is because I listen to Coast to Coast AM, I don't really recall the mainstream making much noise about it. Granted Reagan and Carter is pre-PiKA but Dennis K was just a few years ago. Could you imagine the lampooning Palin or Bachmann would receive if they said that the same?

Like I was telling one of my friends, I'm sure if we were to sit down and actually look into it we could probably find a sitting male politician who has said/done crazier things than any Bachmann, Palin, Sharon Angle, or Nancy Pelosi yet has never faced anything near the level of scrutiny that those ladies have.

Drolefille 07-22-2011 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 2072418)
Baby Boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. So, roughly ages 65-47 now. Not many people with the experience and public notability to make it to President at age 46 and under.

Some people make the cut off 1960 hence my comment about Obama being in or out depending on the cut off used. And I would rather have a 47 year old than another boomer if I were picking totally blind. Since I'm not picking blind, and seeing the options, I really don't want another boomer.
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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2072431)
What, you want someone from the (current) internet generation to become president in 2012? Hate to burst your bubble but they wouldn't be able to meet that pesky 35 years of age requirement.;)

Back on topic-

Bachmann's past and general kookiness gives her adversaries more than enough ammo to take her on so to make an issue of her "woman problems" just comes across as just completely unnecessary (to me at least). I feel that when a male politician says something crazy it often goes relatively unnoticed but when a female says something off it becomes front page news and fodder for the pundits and comedians. Jimmy Carter and Reagan had both said during their presidential campaigns that they had seen UFO's as well as (more recently) Dennis Kucinich during the last democratic primaries. The only reason I know that fact about those three men is because I listen to Coast to Coast AM, I don't really recall the mainstream making much noise about it. Granted Reagan and Carter is pre-PiKA but Dennis K was just a few years ago. Could you imagine the lampooning Palin or Bachmann would receive if they said that the same?

Like I was telling one of my friends, I'm sure if we were to sit down and actually look into it we could probably find a sitting male politician who has said/done crazier things than any Bachmann, Palin, Sharon Angle, or Nancy Pelosi yet has never faced anything near the level of scrutiny that those ladies have.

You mean my options are boomers or millenials? There's no one in between? What world do you live in again and was no one born in the sixties or seventies there?

Personally, Bachmann deserves the scrutiny, as she's not claiming UFOs but lying about facts, there's a difference. Santorum used to pull that crap but got voted out, thank gods, and now thinks he's still relevant.

33girl 07-22-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2072448)
Some people make the cut off 1960 hence my comment about Obama being in or out depending on the cut off used. And I would rather have a 47 year old than another boomer if I were picking totally blind. Since I'm not picking blind, and seeing the options, I really don't want another boomer.

I know people born in 1964 (dated a few, LOL) and for the most part, they definitely ARE NOT boomers in mindset. The cutoff is 1960. I know we've talked about this on here before, but it makes a lot more sense to cut things off by dates of presidential elections.

I'm not cutting a woman slack just because she's a woman. Would a woman president be a nice thing? Yes. Would a president who's bonkers be a nice thing? No. The bonkers part overrides the woman part.

Munchkin03 07-22-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2072324)
Husband whose clinic prays away the gay and accepts Medicaid would be a good starting point.

Has anyone seen that hubby? :eek::eek::eek:

One of the writers for The Daily Show called him the white Al Reynolds.

AnchorAlum 07-22-2011 10:24 PM

I'm no fan of Bachmann, but this blatant attack is not about her qualifications, which I find lacking. It's sexism.

I mean it's not like she has Addison's Disease and gets pain shots and then takes speed pills to stay awake.

*whistles past JFK's grave...*

Ghostwriter 07-27-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2072302)
It's not her migraines that disqualify her for the presidency, it's her batshit crazy.

We conservatives think all the liberals are batshit crazy.

DrPhil 07-27-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2073730)
We conservatives think all the liberals are batshit crazy.

You're all crazy. Happy now?

agzg 07-27-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2073730)
We conservatives think all the liberals are batshit crazy.

First, I don't believe you speak for all conservatives. So, good for you Captain Generalization.

Second, please explain to me why the current bastardization of the Tea Party loves Michele Bachmann so much especially given her and her husband's history. Please.

Please tell me why a woman who says her husband makes all her important decisions is so awesome. A vote for her is basically a vote for her husband, but without her husband having to run on his own merits. Tell me why that's so awesome.

DrPhil 07-27-2011 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2073767)
Please tell me why a woman who says her husband makes all her important decisions is so awesome.

1. Men are the head of the household.
2. Women came from Adam's rib.
3. Pandora opened that box.
4. Men are physically stronger.
5. Men are mentally stronger.
6. Women are too emotional.
7. Women are too PMStional.
8. Men make decisions, women make babies.
9. Behind every strong woman is a man who humps her ass.
10. Girls have a peee-nis, boys have a va-giii-na. Not really. See, women are frivolous liars.

Elephant Walk 07-27-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2073781)
1. Men are the head of the household.
2. Women came from Adam's rib.
3. Pandora opened that box.
4. Men are physically stronger.
5. Men are mentally stronger.
6. Women are too emotional.
7. Women are too PMStional.
8. Men make decisions, women make babies.
9. Behind every strong woman is a man who humps her ass.
10. Girls have a peee-nis, boys have a va-giii-na. Not really. See, women are frivolous liars.

Don't forget their periods attract bears....BEARS! They can smell the menstruation.

AnotherKD 07-27-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2073730)
We conservatives think some of the liberals are batshit crazy. We also think that some of the conservatives are batshit crazy.

As a conservative myself, I fixed your post for you. ;)

I absolutely cannot stand this lady. Nor can I stand anyone else who makes up "facts" out of thin air every other day.

33girl 07-27-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 2073849)
Don't forget their periods attract bears....BEARS! They can smell the menstruation.

I thought that was lions/other big cats, not bears.

AnchorAlum 07-27-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2073852)
As a conservative myself, I fixed your post for you. ;)

I absolutely cannot stand this lady. Nor can I stand anyone else who makes up "facts" out of thin air every other day.


This!

Drolefille 07-27-2011 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2073983)
I thought that was lions/other big cats, not bears.

Sharks! Except that's a myth. (At least, they don't seem to care, whether or not they can smell it.)

Elephant Walk 07-28-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2073983)
I thought that was lions/other big cats, not bears.

I didn't know it was based in any rumor, I was badly quoting Anchorman.

knight_shadow 07-28-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 2074174)
I didn't know it was based in any rumor, I was badly quoting Anchorman.

I got what you were talking about.

33girl 07-28-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 2074174)
I didn't know it was based in any rumor, I was badly quoting Anchorman.

no, it really is. Madonna was worried about the timing of her Like A Virgin video for this reason. :p

AGDee 07-28-2011 08:43 PM

When I was going on a hiking trip in a bear area, we were told to make sure we buried "used" supplies because they would attract bears.

deepimpact2 08-12-2011 04:20 AM

I think it's sexism. But I honestly wonder why she would even want to be President since she suffers from such severe migraines. I have them periodically and it is enough that I would not want to do something that could exacerbate the issue. I applaud her for wanting to be president. I certainly want to see a female president (although not her). But I don't believe it would hinder her or anyone else from doing the job.


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