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DrPhil 06-20-2011 11:51 AM

"Jackass" Star Ryan Dunn Dies in Car Accident
 
"Jackass" star Ryan Dunn has died in a horrific car crash in Pennsylvania, police tell NBC Philadelphia.


The daredevil, 34, found fame performing stomach-churning stunts alongside Steve-O and Johnny Knoxville on the MTV show.


According to TMZ, he was travelling in a car in West Goshen Township, Penn., in the early hours of Monday morning when the vehicle spun out of control and crashed, erupting into a fireball.

The website reports Dunn posted pictures on the internet of him drinking with pals just hours before the fatal smash.

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=654060&GT1=28103


So sad and so unnecessary. :( I'm almost as angry as I am sad.

XAntoftheSkyX 06-20-2011 12:03 PM

http://i54.tinypic.com/2cyptuo.jpg


As sad as this is, could you really expect Dunn and the Jackass/CKY crew going out any other way?

DrPhil 06-20-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX (Post 2064250)
As sad as this is, could you really expect Dunn and the Jackass/CKY crew going out any other way?

With God's grace and mercy, I would hope so. God sometimes saves us from ourselves.

However, as is often the case, his ending matched his (I assume) overall lifestyle and career. :(

CarolinaPhi 06-20-2011 03:09 PM

I also read on TMZ that the car was going 110 MPH at the time of the crash. It's truly a sad and horrific thing when events like this occur & could be prevented.
I just watched him playing on the show Minute to Win it for charity a few nights ago!

DrPhil 06-20-2011 03:20 PM

Wow.

Thank God he didn't kill anyone else.

PiKA2001 06-20-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2064290)
Wow.

Thank God he didn't kill anyone else.

He had a passenger who also died. Someone posted on FB that it was Bam Margera's mom. Haven't seen it confirmed though.

thetaj 06-20-2011 03:44 PM

Beat me to it, Pika! Police have not identified the body yet. I don't think it's Bam's mom, though, as she reported/confirmed the news to several news outlets.

DrPhil 06-20-2011 04:05 PM

*sigh*

:(

EagleChick19 06-20-2011 04:34 PM

Here's the link to WPVI (ABC station in Philadelphia): http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...ent&id=8200859

I lived near the accident scene for almost 5 years...Very sad.

DrPhil 06-21-2011 11:18 AM

Roger Ebert's tweet sets the Internet on fire:

"Friends don't let jackasses drink and drive."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_16...-10391698.html

While most people would agree with Ebert, there is a such thing as "too soon" and "everything that is thought should not be said/typed."

Kirstie Alley is on The View and shared that her mother was killed by a drunk driver and her father was almost killed. Drunk driving is bad and it is dumb. Yet, lives were lost so there's enough room for both compassion and anger at the stupidity of Dunn's drunk driving and speeding.

knight_shadow 06-21-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2064534)
While most people would agree with Ebert, there is a such thing as "too soon" and "everything that is thought should not be said/typed."

I read a post somewhere that said if he were by himself, it would be "too soon." Since he had a passenger, though, the poster (and subsequent posters) said Ebert's tweet was not out of line.

MaggieXi 06-21-2011 12:07 PM

I've been avoiding this topic because it's a little close for home for me. I was acquaintances with the PA part of the jackass crew before they were famous and when they were just a bunch of guys doing stuff around town.

First off, April Margera (Bam's mom) was not killed in the accident. The passanger was a friend who had worked on the movies. April has been kind of the spokes person to the media since the accident occurred.

Second, yes, there were pictures on twitter of Ryan and the people he was with holding glasses that contained alcohol. He was at a bar prior to the accident. The bartender who was serving them has indicated that the group of guys had not been drinking much while they were at the bar and had not seemed intoxicated. For all anyone knows, that picture of Ryan with that one drink is the only drink he had all night over several hours and may have been under the legal limit. An autopsy is being done to confirm if alcohol was involved. (Granted, he very well could have been wasted, but people like Roger Ebert should not be commenting until they have all the facts.)

Third, they are still investigating the accident. The authorities have estimated him going approximately 100mph in his car, but they are trying to determine why there is a sharp turn that caused him to go over the guard rail. Yes, it could have be because he was drunk, but it also could have been him swerving to miss a deer (we have lots of them, especially where this accident was), or swearving to miss another driver.

Finally, Ryan was like the nicest guy in the world. Sure he did crazy stuff that would make you cringe and almost vomit, but he was genuine and very nice. Years ago I was at a bar and a bunch of those guys were there. I fell and ended up cutting my hand really bad in glass and needed to go to the hospital. While two of the other guys were shoving a video camera in my face and being rude and outlandish, Ryan got them to stop, got me ice and napkins from the bar and sat with me until my ride came to take me to the emergency room, and he barely knew me. That was the kind of guy he was.

DrPhil 06-21-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieXi (Post 2064541)
Finally, Ryan was like the nicest guy in the world. Sure he did crazy stuff that would make you cringe and almost vomit, but he was genuine and very nice. Years ago I was at a bar and a bunch of those guys were there. I fell and ended up cutting my hand really bad in glass and needed to go to the hospital. While two of the other guys were shoving a video camera in my face and being rude and outlandish, Ryan got them to stop, got me ice and napkins from the bar and sat with me until my ride came to take me to the emergency room, and he barely knew me. That was the kind of guy he was.

While even "jackasses" can be wonderful and loving people, he was probably being a careless driver. His carelessness was probably in the form of excessive speeding.

MaggieXi 06-21-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2064543)
While even "jackasses" can be wonderful and loving people, he was probably being a careless driver. His carelessness was probably in the form of excessive speeding.

And your most likely right. The speeding was contributory to the accident. No one is going to argue that.

knight_shadow 06-21-2011 01:26 PM

Roger Ebert says 'too quick' to tweet about Dunn

Quote:

CHICAGO – Roger Ebert says he was "probably too quick to tweet" when he posted on Twitter about "Jackass" star Ryan Dunn, who died in a fiery car crash.

Ebert tweeted that "friends don't let jackasses drink and drive." The message prompted a landslide of posts on Ebert's Facebook page. The Pulitzer Prize-winning Chicago movie critic posted a message from Facebook early Tuesday saying his page was removed for violating Terms of Use.
link

AnotherKD 06-21-2011 02:01 PM

I do feel bad for all involved, including MaggieXi above, but in contrast to your post, there was a report on the radio this morning that the bartender that was serving him drinks said that yes, he checked on them to make sure they were okay to drive home, but also stated he had 3 beers and 3 shots over the course of about 4-5 hours.

MaggieXi 06-21-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2064566)
I do feel bad for all involved, including MaggieXi above, but in contrast to your post, there was a report on the radio this morning that the bartender that was serving him drinks said that yes, he checked on them to make sure they were okay to drive home, but also stated he had 3 beers and 3 shots over the course of about 4-5 hours.

Local Philadelphia news reports state that the bartender said that they were not drinking heavily. TMZ, reported that a witness said he had 3 beers and 3 shots over the course of about 4-5 hours. Of course, TMZ is also the same website that is currently reporting on Mel Gibson's GF -- The Nipple Tape Bondage Pics....


http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...4189.html?ahnw

http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/20/ryan-d...m-margera-mom/

DrPhil 06-21-2011 03:38 PM

This is why there is an investigation to determine the cause(s) of death. People can neither go based on the bartender's account nor the TMZ witness account.

AnotherKD 06-21-2011 05:06 PM

Which is why I didn't list a site. I said I heard it on the radio- but my condolences to both of their families and friends, in all seriousness, including MaggieXi.

DrPhil 06-22-2011 01:26 PM

Will Ryan Dunn's death suck the fun out of 'Jackass'?

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=654323



I think "Jackass" has run its course.

ETA: The other person in the car was production assistant Zachary Hartwell. Rest in peace.

Barbie's_Rush 06-22-2011 02:39 PM

It's being reported now that the autopsy showed his BAC was .196 (over twice the legal limit) and accident reconstruction experts have estimated his speed at 130 MPH. Jackass indeed.

AnotherKD 06-22-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 2064869)
It's being reported now that the autopsy showed his BAC was .196 (over twice the legal limit) and accident reconstruction experts have estimated his speed at 130 MPH. Jackass indeed.

And it's not just coming from places like TMZ...

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2...6713134866.txt

Wow. It's just so unnecessary.

thetaj 06-22-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2064875)
And it's not just coming from places like TMZ...

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2...6713134866.txt

Wow. It's just so unnecessary.

Rule #3 for posting comments to that article is, "Don't Hate"

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yW9Lh4cgxs...ove+haters.jpg

PiKA2001 06-22-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2064592)
This is why there is an investigation to determine the cause(s) of death. People can neither go based on the bartender's account nor the TMZ witness account.

I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the bartender's word because of the liabilities he may face as the one who served Dunn. He may be trying to do some CYA'ing.

DrPhil 06-22-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2064879)
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the bartender's word because of the liabilities he may face as the one who served Dunn. He may be trying to do some CYA'ing.

Yeah waiting on the investigation.

ETA: After reading what the investigation has preliminarily found, I agree with you even more and see why the bartender is protecting his ass.

Munchkin03 06-22-2011 04:41 PM

While I'm sure Bam Margera and the Jackass crew are devastated, it's probably in their best interest to stay away from the media. It's a hard thing to do in this day and age but it's really the smartest thing to do.

My best friend from college died in a fairly high-profile manner...everyone around me made sure that I didn't see any of the newspaper articles and TV news headlines. It would have just made things worse. This was before FB got big and before Twitter even existed...privacy for all people is really the best thing.

DrPhil 06-22-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 2064869)
It's being reported now that the autopsy showed his BAC was .196 (over twice the legal limit) and accident reconstruction experts have estimated his speed at 130 MPH. Jackass indeed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2064875)
And it's not just coming from places like TMZ...

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2...6713134866.txt

Wow. It's just so unnecessary.

Stupidity. This angers me.

lovespink88 06-22-2011 10:38 PM

I had always thought that toxicology reports take weeks to come back. Is a BAC test not as complicated and can therefore be determined in a short period of time?

BluPhire 06-23-2011 11:56 AM

I purposely stayed away from this because it was getting sensitive in light of what Roger Ebert tweeted, but if this proves true (BAC almost .2, and he was driving 135 mph) better him than anyone else.

Feel horrible for the passenger. I needed to edit. I meant him hitting an innocent.

Munchkin03 06-23-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 2065019)
I had always thought that toxicology reports take weeks to come back. Is a BAC test not as complicated and can therefore be determined in a short period of time?

Simply, yes. In a basic test, they're just looking for alcohol levels in the blood. Forensic toxicology reports cover blood, urine, and tissues and will involve looking for more than just alcohol.

Just think about those numbers: .196 BAC. 135 MPH. Terrible.

DrPhil 06-23-2011 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2065175)
Just think about those numbers: .196 BAC. 135 MPH. Terrible.

"Jackass."

I generally like "Jackass" shows and movies when in moderation because I like the people and often find them funny. However, I really think the "Jackass" franchise will get less love because of this. I know that time heals wounds and people tend to quickly forget about tough lessons. But, I think the careless and dangerous antics have officially expired. The other dumb stuff they do, such as drinking horse semen, may still get some viewers.

DrPhil 06-23-2011 01:26 PM

No charges against bar in Ryan Dunn death

Police officials said there will be no charges against Barnaby's of America in West Chester, Pa. because "Jackass" star Ryan Dunn did not appear intoxicated during the time he was served two beers and six shots from bar employees over four hours.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/435096...h/from/toolbar

Low C Sharp 06-23-2011 02:22 PM

Quote:

Feel horrible for the passenger. I needed to edit. I meant him hitting an innocent.
I don't feel that bad for the passenger, only his family. He's innocent in the sense that he wasn't hurting anyone else. He's not innocent when it comes to his own death. He invited it by getting into a car with a drinking driver.

AnotherKD 06-23-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 2065213)
I don't feel that bad for the passenger, only his family. He's innocent in the sense that he wasn't hurting anyone else. He's not innocent when it comes to his own death. He invited it by getting into a car with a drinking driver.

But that's where there is a fine line.... if you are drunk yourself (for example- I am not saying the passenger was, but am saying for sake of argument), and you are told repeatedly by your friend that they are okay to drive, and even sober people said that the person driving looked okay to them... isn't that being somewhat responsible in not driving yourself? What if he was so drunk that he really thought his friend was ok to drive? Whose responsibility is it then?

Kevin 06-23-2011 03:10 PM

Darwin.

Low C Sharp 06-23-2011 03:21 PM

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isn't that being somewhat responsible in not driving yourself?
No. If I know injecting heroin is really dangerous, so I snort it instead, I'm not being "somewhat responsible."

Quote:

What if he was so drunk that he really thought his friend was ok to drive? Whose responsibility is it then?
His own. Don't get so drunk that it looks like a good idea to throw your life away. 12-year-olds nowadays know that how drunk the person appears doesn't matter.

AnotherKD 06-23-2011 04:47 PM

My point is that he was more than likely intoxicated. Now, I am one for personal responsibility but his decision-making skills were obviously impaired. And your comment about heroin is not relevant at all and makes no sense in regards to this discussion.

HannahXO 06-23-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2065202)
No charges against bar in Ryan Dunn death

Police officials said there will be no charges against Barnaby's of America in West Chester, Pa. because "Jackass" star Ryan Dunn did not appear intoxicated during the time he was served two beers and six shots from bar employees over four hours.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/435096...h/from/toolbar

I am a huge believer in personal responsibility, and agree that the bar should not be charged. However, who on earth judges someone to be OK to drive after that much alcohol?? Apparently whoever said he didn't seem too intoxicated didn't actually know those numbers. I don't care how "OK" someone looks after that much alcohol in one night, you cannot say they are OK to drive. Something to keep in mind if it were your friend in that situation...seeming sober is not the same as actually being sober. Keep track of your drinks, and keep an eye on your friends.

preciousjeni 06-24-2011 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2065218)
But that's where there is a fine line.... if you are drunk yourself (for example- I am not saying the passenger was, but am saying for sake of argument), and you are told repeatedly by your friend that they are okay to drive, and even sober people said that the person driving looked okay to them... isn't that being somewhat responsible in not driving yourself? What if he was so drunk that he really thought his friend was ok to drive? Whose responsibility is it then?

I know alcohol affects people differently, but how drunk do you have to be to not notice your friend has had even a single drink??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jen (Post 2065289)
These are the types of situations where you make a plan before you go out regarding how you'll get home.

Absolutely.

christiangirl 06-24-2011 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2064248)
" So sad and so unnecessary. :( I'm almost as angry as I am sad.

Basically.

While I am really sad at lives lost.....my grandfather was hit by a drunk driver. I'm a little more touchy about this subject than many so I am always more angry than sad at stories like these. I'm sure he was a good man, even a great man, but one poor decision can do so much.


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