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hvburgess 04-24-2011 01:24 AM

I want to rush...
 
I'm a senior in high school, and I want to rush for sororities in the fall! I'd love some advice or any kind of help from anyone!

princessamy 04-24-2011 08:12 AM

Use the search function

mixer 04-24-2011 03:19 PM

never mind princessamy's rudeness, it's the typical NON-greek approach to answer people's questions. When you are on your campus you will have plenty of opportunity to rush for quite a few, I suggest when you are deciding that you pick the one you identify with as far as values and mission the most. You wouldn't want to waste your time during the pledging process for something you don't really want to be a part of. Think about why you are doing this, is it to make new friends that you may bond with closer then your family, is it to party, is it to network to further your potential career opportunities, etc. All things to think about.

ree-Xi 04-24-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mixer (Post 2050127)
never mind princessamy's rudeness, it's the typical NON-greek approach to answer people's questions. When you are on your campus you will have plenty of opportunity to rush for quite a few, I suggest when you are deciding that you pick the one you identify with as far as values and mission the most. You wouldn't want to waste your time during the pledging process for something you don't really want to be a part of. Think about why you are doing this, is it to make new friends that you may bond with closer then your family, is it to party, is it to network to further your potential career opportunities, etc. All things to think about.

And you are??

Titchou 04-24-2011 03:42 PM

Sign up for recruitment at your school. Find out what is required and go for it! Get your recs - if you are attending one of the schools where they are necessary, make sure you have over a 3.0 GPA, good activities, dress nicely for the campus and be your usual friendly self.

You'll do fine.

Drolefille 04-24-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mixer (Post 2050127)
never mind princessamy's rudeness, it's the typical NON-greek approach to answer people's questions. When you are on your campus you will have plenty of opportunity to rush for quite a few, I suggest when you are deciding that you pick the one you identify with as far as values and mission the most. You wouldn't want to waste your time during the pledging process for something you don't really want to be a part of. Think about why you are doing this, is it to make new friends that you may bond with closer then your family, is it to party, is it to network to further your potential career opportunities, etc. All things to think about.

TROLL

Benzgirl 04-24-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2050138)
TROLL


You are too fast for me.

33girl 04-24-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mixer (Post 2050127)
When you are on your campus you will have plenty of opportunity to rush for quite a few, I suggest when you are deciding that you pick the one you identify with as far as values and mission the most.

This is NOT how NPC rush works, even at the most laid back of campi.

Gatorbaby 04-24-2011 08:05 PM

Jump headfirst into it. There really is minimal preparation to be done (unless you're a little too overprepared for your own good and arrange recs for sororities as I did over the summer before I rushed). It's called Rush for a reason - it's strenuous and will force you to jump out of your comfort zone and right into a very integral part of college life for anywhere between 10-30% of your campus.
if you have any questions on specifics, however, I'm a PC (that's pledge class) '10, meaning I'm the most recent one, and an upcoming sophomore at an SEC school where Greek life is relatively big (we have a presence, I'd say).
Best of luck to you!

XAntoftheSkyX 04-24-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mixer (Post 2050127)
never mind princessamy's rudeness, it's the typical NON-greek approach to answer people's questions.

>implying princessamy hasn't been initiated.
>implying you know things about rush, NPC or otherwise.

http://i56.tinypic.com/ct6dc.jpg

AOII Angel 04-24-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatorbaby (Post 2050217)
Jump headfirst into it. There really is minimal preparation to be done (unless you're a little too overprepared for your own good and arrange recs for sororities as I did over the summer before I rushed). It's called Rush for a reason - it's strenuous and will force you to jump out of your comfort zone and right into a very integral part of college life for anywhere between 10-30% of your campus.
if you have any questions on specifics, however, I'm a PC (that's pledge class) '10, meaning I'm the most recent one, and an upcoming sophomore at an SEC school where Greek life is relatively big (we have a presence, I'd say).
Best of luck to you!

WTH? Try not to discourage people from getting recs, especially since you haven't experienced recruitment from the sorority side yet. You don't know what little thing may be the make or break it element for a PNM, especially at a competitive school.

FSUZeta 04-25-2011 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatorbaby (Post 2050217)
Jump headfirst into it. There really is minimal preparation to be done (unless you're a little too overprepared for your own good and arrange recs for sororities as I did over the summer before I rushed). It's called Rush for a reason - it's strenuous and will force you to jump out of your comfort zone and right into a very integral part of college life for anywhere between 10-30% of your campus.
if you have any questions on specifics, however, I'm a PC (that's pledge class) '10, meaning I'm the most recent one, and an upcoming sophomore at an SEC school where Greek life is relatively big (we have a presence, I'd say).
Best of luck to you!

At many colleges recommendations are needed to insure a successful NPC recruitment, and it would be extremely rare on those campuses to be successful without them. That requires preplanning on the part of the pnm.

Trust me, Gatorbaby. You were not over prepared for U. of F. rush by having secured recs. That is the status quo there and being a ZTA alum, I can promise you that you did not receive a bid unless you had a rec. You may not have realized that someone sent in a rec. for you, but it was there.

OP, as someone else said, check out the college panhellenic website at your university, and if possible ask questions of girls you know who go there.

Mixer, who the hell are you? What are your qualifications to give advice? You do not decide ahead of time to concentrate on one NPC sorority, unless you want to ruin your chances to receive a bid. For NPC recruitment, it is best to keep an open mind, as much as you can.

carnation 04-25-2011 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 2050364)
Mixer, who the hell are you?

lol!

AnotherKD 04-25-2011 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2050135)
Sign up for recruitment at your school. Find out what is required and go for it! Get your recs - if you are attending one of the schools where they are necessary, make sure you have over a 3.0 GPS, good activities, dress nicely for the campus and be your usual friendly self.

You'll do fine.

Hehe.

FleurGirl 04-25-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mixer (Post 2050127)
never mind princessamy's rudeness, it's the typical NON-greek approach to answer people's questions. When you are on your campus you will have plenty of opportunity to rush for quite a few, I suggest when you are deciding that you pick the one you identify with as far as values and mission the most. You wouldn't want to waste your time during the pledging process for something you don't really want to be a part of. Think about why you are doing this, is it to make new friends that you may bond with closer then your family, is it to party, is it to network to further your potential career opportunities, etc. All things to think about.

This is what upsets me the most -- this is just flat out WRONG. Every sorority has a wonderful message and deep-seeded meaningful values. You cannot go wrong with any of the NPC sororities; they are all wonderful organizations. The best thing to do is to go into recruitment with an open mind, meet everyone, ignore the "tent talk", and figure out which organization you feel that you fit in the best with. Deciding where you want to join before recruitment is the biggest rookie mistake.

AZTheta 04-25-2011 09:56 AM

Oh for the love of Mike, how many of these posts and error-filled responses are there going to be this spring?

OP - read adpiucf's most excellent and detailed post on preparing for recruitment. The search function'll take you right to it.

As for the suggestions/pronouncements by mixer and Gatorbaby, No. No. No. Pay attention to the people who've been around a while and who have solid advice to give you. If you haven't done so, get good photos, get your resume polished, and get to the nearest Alumnae Panhellenic and get cracking on securing recommendations.

No one here will give you any specifics on membership selection. We will, however, give detailed information on the need for recommendations, how to converse, how to conduct yourself prior to recruitment, etc. And some GCers even know how to play "dress the pnm". Not this one, however.

One last thing: good luck! If you maximize your opportunities, and prepare well, there is a possibility for a happy ending. Not guaranteed - I wrote "possibility."

Titchou 04-25-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2050369)
Hehe.

Fixed it....

Shellfish 04-25-2011 10:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKra3_pfBY#t=4m30s

adpiucf 04-26-2011 04:42 PM

Good luck! Read the thread in my signature, in case you haven't already found it. It's a labor of love that I add to annually based on the great advice of fellow GC members and the new recruitment situations that pop up each fall!

Gatorbaby 04-26-2011 05:16 PM

I didn't think reccommendations were that pivotal in a decision. In fact, I secured recs for all the houses at UF (nearly...excepting DPhiE, I believe), and I was dropped by 9/15 houses after round 2.
So, from my understanding and personal experience, recs can only pull you through to round 2. From then on, you're on your own. Get them if you have the time, que sera if you don't.

The biggest thing that helped me in Zeta was a girl I knew from back home, not a random recommendation.

So, if you really want to get started an make yourself ready for Rush..some tips:
1) Clean up that Facebook! Make sure you have an appropriate Fb picture, quotes, etc. Of course don't change who you are or what you're about but nobody wants to see curse words or that kind of thing all over your page.
2) Talk to some girls you might've known in highschool who are now in college. I've gotten a few messages like this on Facebook and I'm more than happy to answer questions. They can sometimes give you some tips and pointers on Rush specific to your school.
3) Don't take Rush (as a process when you're going through it) super seriously. Do your best and be yourself and that's all anybody can ask of you. As mentioned previously, I was dropped by a little under half of the houses after Round 2. It happens - these things are arbitrary and/or I wasn't a good fit for the majority. The one thing I can say is that I was proud to be myself during all of the rounds and was pleasantly surprised and delighted when Zeta accepted me. I was assured I had made the right decision because I was myself throughout the entire process. :)

ASTalumna06 04-26-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatorbaby (Post 2050800)
I didn't think reccommendations were that pivotal in a decision. In fact, I secured recs for all the houses at UF (nearly...excepting DPhiE, I believe), and I was dropped by 9/15 houses after round 2.
So, from my understanding and personal experience, recs can only pull you through to round 2. From then on, you're on your own. Get them if you have the time, que sera if you don't.

And if you didn't have recs, you might have been dropped by 13/15 chapters. You really don't know. And again, the weight that recs carry depends on the sororities and the school you attend.

ASTalumna06 04-26-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatorbaby (Post 2050800)
The biggest thing that helped me in Zeta was a girl I knew from back home, not a random recommendation.

And you really don't know this for sure, either. Unless the chapter HONESTLY shared with you the reason(s) that you were selected for membership.

FSUZeta 04-26-2011 09:09 PM

Gatorbaby, Please do not give advice about recs. until you have been thru recruitment on the "other"(sorority) side. You have a lot yet to experience and learn from the sister side of things, and I am telling you that you are not correct in your assumptions.

Give advice on appropriate recruitment attire for pnms at colleges in Florida, share your favorite conversation topics, warn girls about what is and isn't appropriate on facebook, but right now, don't give advice about recs.

katydidKD 04-26-2011 09:21 PM

Serious Facebook Advice: When you join a new network (so say the UF network this summer) unfortunately it AUTOMATICALLY sets everything on your facebook viewable to that network. Most people DO NOT realize this. Most PNMs in my experience have completely open facebooks (they recently joined their college's network, and privacy settings are not something most people check frequently), and i doubt that is a conscious decision on their part. You MUST go back and manually redo your privacy settings. Not only is this rush advice, but safety/privacy advice.

Rush FB Advice: Clean it up. Ideally, you have a pristine facebook. Next to ideal, you have it set to just friends (but there is a good chance you are friends with a chapter member, so just make them clean)

Avoid booze, boys, bibles, and bank account talk during rush, but hopefully your rho gamma or whatever it is called tells you those most basic rules

AOII Angel 04-27-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatorbaby (Post 2050800)
I didn't think reccommendations were that pivotal in a decision. In fact, I secured recs for all the houses at UF (nearly...excepting DPhiE, I believe), and I was dropped by 9/15 houses after round 2.

Having a recommendation doesn't guarantee you anything. You are using anecdotal evidence from your limited experience to council other women which could torpedo their recruitments. Like ASTalumna06 said, without recs, you might have had no invitations. There are many organizations which REQUIRE a recommendation or use the lack of a recommendation as an easy cut for the first round. Sorry you were released despite having recommendations, but there's no use telling others that they aren't needed.

ASTalumna06 04-27-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2050946)
Having a recommendation doesn't guarantee you anything. You are using anecdotal evidence from your limited experience to council other women which could torpedo their recruitments. Like ASTalumna06 said, without recs, you might have had no invitations. There are many organizations which REQUIRE a recommendation or use the lack of a recommendation as an easy cut for the first round. Sorry you were released despite having recommendations, but there's no use telling others that they aren't needed.



Her argument would actually make more sense if she didn’t have any recs, and was still invited back to 6 houses. But how she could have recs to nearly all of the houses and then tell someone else not to get them is beyond me.

I actually read over this again…

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Originally Posted by Gatorbaby (Post 2050800)
I didn't think reccommendations were that pivotal in a decision. In fact, I secured recs for all the houses at UF (nearly...excepting DPhiE, I believe), and I was dropped by 9/15 houses after round 2.
So, from my understanding and personal experience, recs can only pull you through to round 2. From then on, you're on your own. Get them if you have the time, que sera if you don't.

.. and realized that she actually said, “I didn’t think recs were that important, but I still got one for almost every house… you need recs to get past the first round… but you don’t need to get them if you don’t have the time.”

Uh… der… what?

33girl 04-27-2011 09:37 AM

This is just another symptom of neoism -thinking you know what you're talking about.

AOII Angel 04-27-2011 10:10 AM

Completely agree. She has no idea how much good those little pieces of paper did for her. PNMs think that if they don't assure you a bid to your favorite house, then they didn't help at all. I know many a friend from HS that was cut after day one from every house at LSU. They had the whole package but no recs.


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