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"Booooooyaahhhh...I'm not really pregnant!"
Teen fakes pregnancy as a school project. Six-month-long fake out was part of a social experiment for the 17-year-old's senior project.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42711421..._and_parenting I consider this to be a brilliant study with participant observation methodology. I hope she gets college offers, scholarships, and writes some research articles to get some publications. :) |
That's awesome.
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I admire her determination and commitment. I support a child of mine wanting to do this.
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I'm not quite feeling this. What's been advanced here?
Ok, you tell or let your friends/classmates observe your "pregnancy." Some are likely to stand with you, others likely to talk about you or shun you. ...predictable responses in both directions, so what's been learned from her exercise? Besides, I'd think her real friends, those that stood with her, might feel a bit disillusioned at her experiment for a minute. Hopefully, they'd all get past it, though. |
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I don't know. It seemed that the article addressed your very issue. Of course I could be reading it wrong. |
I saw her on the Today show this morning and I found her observations about how people treated her to be pretty interesting.
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It's a lot for her to take on, and something most of us will only experience vicariously through her report. I'm sure you can see some value in that? |
It feels unethical.
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I am most surprised that the not-really-father-to-be's parents weren't included in the knowledge, as well as the girl's own siblings. I understand she may have wanted to include reactions from family members, but I'm sure throughout the 6 months, the boyfriend's parents had time to accept the idea and possibly bond with this girl over her "pregnancy." I'm sure they are partly relieved, but I'm sure there's a sense of some loss there as well that they no longer have a grandchild on the way. That part I could never justify to myself.
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What I found scariest about this project was that her high school graduation depended on it- if her project was a failure to launch or someone broke the secret that she wasn't really pregnant, she would not have been able to graduate. Which a- seems like a way-too-serious project for a high school student and b- must have been really scary. Not that her boyfriend or mother would intentionally sabotage her, but accidents happen.
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However, I think you're right in that this never would have gotten past an IRB for that reason. Had she not identified a 'father' and informed her parents, then it's possible that an IRB would have approved it. Quote:
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She definitely should have told the boyfriend's parents.
I don't know how concrete these observations could be - she didn't do this in a vacuum. That is, everyone already knew her and had opinions of her previously. People aren't going to react exactly the same way to every person that gets pregnant. Maybe a better way to do this experiment would have been with another girl in on it - with as identical as possible social and class standing - as a "control" and contrast what happened to both of them when one of them got "pregnant." |
I guess I just don't find this to be particularly brilliant, groundbreaking, or worthwhile. I don't believe a high school student has the agency or proper tools to perform covert studies, much less actually manipulate her subjects -- none of whom have consented. Hence my question of ethics.
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I don't think it's shocking to anyone familiar with the issue, but I wonder sincerely if her classmates and their families rethink their attitude about teen pregnancy. Quote:
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Obviously people are going to react differently to the pregnancy of Suzie who is in the home-ec program, not very popular, has been dating the same guy for 5 years and is wearing a promise ring, and Bonnie who is the head of every club and sport and never dates the same guy twice. She can't say "this is how people react to a pregnant student" and leave it at that. |
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*group here can include "one" individual, but whatever. |
The more I think about this, the more shocked I am that this got approved by the administration--especially considering how incredibly wary most schools are about allowing researchers--professional, ethical, IRB-approved researchers--on their campuses.
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And covert observation and participant observation subjects do not give consent prior to the study. That would defeat the purpose. *** For those who are not familiar with methodology and issues with IRB approval, here's a Cliffnotes version: http://www.webster.edu/irb/confid.html Observational Studies. Of all the methods used to locate suitable subjects and obtain data, covert observation and participant observation are especially likely to raise concerns about privacy. Covert observation includes the use of concealed devices to record information for later analysis (e.g., tape recording conversations or videotaping personal interactions) and concealment of the researcher (e.g., behind a one-way mirror) as the behavior of subjects is observed and recorded. In participant observation, the researcher assumes a role in the setting or group being studied. When the purpose of these methods is to gain access to information not ordinarily available to "outsiders," questions of privacy arise. (Similar issues about obtaining information not intended to be disclosed can be raised about many other forms of research that involve deception.) Several factors may be relevant to an IRB's evaluation of such privacy questions. One is the extent to which the behavior in question is public. Covert observation of public behavior (e.g., observing pedestrians on the street) raises little if any concern about privacy; concealed observation of people in their homes would be quite another matter. Some behavior that occurs in public places may not really be public behavior if the individuals involved have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Research involving covert recording of conversations in public parks or filming of activities in public rest rooms clearly raises invasion of privacy questions. Observational studies in quasi-public places (e.g., hospital emergency rooms or state mental hospital wards) may also raise such concerns. A question sometimes raised about the use of covert observation in research is whether an ethical issue exists if the subjects never become aware of the invasion of privacy. That is, if subjects are never aware that their behavior has been observed or recorded for research purposes, they can hardly feel embarrassed, guilty, or that their rights have been violated. On the other hand, it can be argued that an invasion of privacy is wrong, whether or not the subjects are ever aware of it. In some cases, subjects may inadvertently learn of their involvement in the research, perhaps when the study is published, and feel that they have been harmed. |
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Second, I'm not sure what you mean by "agency" - she doesn't have to exert any sort of influence (social or otherwise) over her peers to gain valid insight. In fact, the more 'usual' she is, the better off the research outcomes might be. Finally, she may or may not have the proper tools to actually give insight, but we won't know until the final product is produced, right? I don't think it'll be groundbreaking in the sense that it won't earn peer review or publication or anything, but it's interesting she chose the project itself, and (to my mind) it hasn't really been studied in an academic sense. I'm interested in the results. |
Considering that high school students get scholarships and college acceptance for planting a community garden, being in the school musical, being on whatever sports team, yes I think she should receive a scholarship (if there is one out there) for sociological studies.
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It is not safe to assume that a well written article (once she is in college and has research mentors) will not receive peer review and publication if the methodology and findings are not crappy.
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The scientific mind wishes there was a way and the ethical mind slaps it and tells it to stop. |
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Thanks for sharing your C.V. I'll spare you mine. ;)
We don't know all of the details of her study and what, if anything, she has planned for future studies. So, like I said, it is not safe to assume that this study is a waste and she cannot eventually have a peer reviewed publication even loosely based on this study. And she may not have any interest in any of that. She may have only wanted to complete her senior project and get some attention for the topic. Maybe publishing in a magazine or newspaper is more her desire. That is also fine since this is a very public topic that shouldn't be relegated to those of us who regularly read scholarly, peer-reviewed journals. |
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And don't edit my post to remove its context. I'm talking about what this young lady can possibly do with similar studies in the future. |
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If she wants to publish in a magazine or popular press, fine with me--although I have issues with rewarding research with notable, uncontrolled and unaccounted for potential for psychological harm in modern times. Granted, some of most influential studies in psychology would be unethical be today's standards, but ethical standards in research also came about for damn good reasons. If she wants to do a future study, done ethically, on the same topic, sure, she can try to publish it anywhere she wants to. On the study itself... I think it is interesting, yes, and probably will be grounds for some interesting self-reflection in that high school. However, you have to keep in mind the methodological flaw (and it's a big one, IMO) of having one person do everything in the study--be in the participant, the observer, the principal investigator, the analyst, etc.--HUGE potential for bias issues that would need to be addressed if anyone wanted to make this publishable, regardless of ethics. She probably came in with expectations and probably, deliberately or not, focused on responses which confirmed those and cherry-picked them. This isn't a criticism of her--it's human nature. But it's also why this type of research just wouldn't fly professionally, except maybe as a letter to the editor or a bare "base:" for future studies. It's very interesting and probably contributed something to her personal gtrowth and again, self-reflection, but it's hardly ground-breaking, IMO. |
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LOL @ the rest of your post. This is some serious stuff, eh? Like I said, if she gets to college and if she has research mentors and if she wants to further this research...the world shall see whether this is respectable research that is worthy of any kind of publication. In the meantime, she's a high school student whose research has received varying opinions of the methodology and findings. Cool. |
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We get all that, really we do, thing is, she is a high school student. Likely the adults supervising her were not psychologists, or people particularly trained in IRB procedures and informed consent and so on. Blah blah, stuff is problematic, but it's over and done with and something interesting might come of it. Like legit research either by her or other researchers. The fact that this could not have been done by a professional actually makes it more intriguing. And quite frankly it was an incredibly gutsy thing to do. I give her major props. |
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