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ASUADPi 04-16-2011 07:49 AM

NHL & Octopus throwing
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp2695

I really hope I'm the only one who finds this completely inappropriate. I'm just waiting for PETA (or some other agency) to step in. You just don't do this to an animal, octopus or any other type. Common sense people!

Drolefille 04-16-2011 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 2047342)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp2695

I really hope I'm the only one who finds this completely inappropriate. I'm just waiting for PETA (or some other agency) to step in. You just don't do this to an animal, octopus or any other type. Common sense people!

@ the bold. I don't think that's what you met.

Also PETA kills puppies, and is too busy comparing pork to the holocaust or slavery to do more than write a strongly worded letter. Thing is, NHL already banned it so who are they going to write to, the fans?

Also, to my knowledge the octopus is already dead, not thrown on the ice live. Considering the fact that octopus is often eaten so fresh that the tentacles are still moving this is not necessarily a step down in humane treatment of the cephalopods that will rule the earth after they learn to walk the land. Considering how people treat live seafood anyway, i'm not sure this is a departure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_the_Octopus

AGDee 04-16-2011 09:40 AM

Yes, they are dead when thrown. They are purchased primarily in a seafood store at Eastern Market, already dead. Like Drole points out, people treat live seafood pretty horribly already... like dropping a live lobster in boiling water.

I find it humorous that when asked about tossing hats on the ice when someone gets a hat trick they said it's just too many people doing it to do anything about it.

You don't see nearly as many as you used to because the security at the Joe do try to screen people for them. People have to be creative to smuggle them in there these days.

Haters gonna hate! Go Wings!

BraveMaroon 04-16-2011 10:25 AM

I was at a game the other night and someone threw a catfish on the ice. We're in Nashville, so apparently, that's our unique version.

It really messed up the ice - to say nothing of the catfish.

I hadn't even given it much thought from an animal rights perspective.

But I eat seafood (and really, all meat) so I'd be a hypocrite to get up in arms about cephalopod slinging, then go have calamari after the game.

Go Preds!!!!!

AGDee 04-16-2011 11:30 AM

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Compliments of the Down With Detroit web site.

AOIIalum 04-16-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2047391)
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Compliments of the Down With Detroit web site.

I NEED one of these shirts. As a Blue Jackets fan it seems the horrid things get tossed on our ice more than we want, but if they were tossing Bettman we'd probably help!!!

@BraveMaroon, what was the deal with the catfish the other night? That was rather strange and unexpected.

Drolefille 04-16-2011 12:31 PM

http://www.givemenashville.com/NNPredators.htm
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Legend of the catfish

Fans of the Nashville Predators have created their own unique tradition to show their support: on occasion, a fan will throw a catfish onto the ice. The Tennessean newspaper in Nashville cites the first instance of this on October 30, 2003. The Predators were facing the Detroit Red Wings at the Gaylord Entertainment Center, and a fan managed to toss the raw fish over the glass and onto the ice in celebration of Nashville's first goal of the contest, which the Predators ultimately won. The fan's fish-toss set a precedent, and fans smuggle the catfish into the arena (likely by keeping them up against their skin, as security searches bags but doesn't frisk fans) and fling the fish onto the ice, often in celebration of the Predators' first goal of the game. In fact, at least four catfish wound up on the ice after the first Nashville goal in a 4-1 win over the Calgary Flames on November 13th, 2003. Fans who get caught throwing anything onto the ice are escorted out of the arena, yet it doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent—this tradition continues on occasion even now.

The reason for choosing a catfish is not entirely clear. It is possible (though unlikely) that the fish referenced the Predators' status as "bottom-feeders" in the NHL's Western Conference for much of the team's early existence. It may also have had something to do with the Catfish Out of Water art festival which took place around the time the tradition began; this festival resulted in over 50 fiberglass catfish sculptures being placed throughout Music City, including one painted in a hockey scheme located on the GEC plaza.

The most plausable theory regarding the smelly fish regards a rivalry. The biggest rivals of the Nashville Predators are the legendary Detroit Red Wings. The Red Wings have a similar tradition where fans fling octopuses onto the ice, with the creature's eight legs symbolizing the eight wins it once took the Red Wings to win the Stanley Cup. With the deep dislike of the Red Wings, it is likely a fan decided to create a Southern answer to the longstanding tradition, and the catfish--a Southern trademark--was a fairly logical choice.

Sometime around 8:34pm Central time on Wednesday, February 8th, 2006 (with 13 minutes and change left in the 3rd period), the Predators and their foul-smelling tradition made history again. The Preds were playing the Red Wings in Detroit, and the Joe Louis Arena got its first known taste of catfish. Nashville was down 4-0, and a fan calmly approached the glass and heaved the fish to the ice--the very same ice which has seen so many octopuses in the past. After chucking the catfish, the fan removed his jacket to reveal an autographed jersey of Nashville goalie Tomas Vokoun, who had been pulled after two periods, giving up the four goals. According to the Predators' announcers (Pete Weber and Terry Crisp) the fan known as Catfish Kenny likely was waiting for Nashville's first goal of the game, but whether due to impatience or the likely growing odour of the catfish, decided to throw the fish early. His actions - including revealing his jersey and thus, his allegiance, earned him a hasty exit from the game. The Predators had no luck on that night, however, as the Red Wings and their historically octopus-flinging fans would enjoy being the 6-0 victor in that contest. Catfish Kenny also struck again in the season finale April 18 vs the Red Wings shortly after Paul Kariya's Hat Trick.

honeychile 04-16-2011 12:37 PM

I've heard that the referees HATED it! Supposedly, the octopi smelled so badly after being catapulted onto the ice (and sometimes freezing to it).

Don't go by PETA standards, btw. They think nothing of opening up the cages of lab animals and not caring what happens to the animal itself. Nothing could be crueler than that!

PiKA2001 04-16-2011 02:38 PM

UGH

Nothing makes my skin crawl and eyes bug out more than when people talk as if PETA is the go to group for protecting or saving animals.

agzg 04-16-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2047366)
Haters gonna hate! Go Wings!

God, D. You know I love you, but you have terrible taste in hockey teams.

AGDee 04-16-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2047430)
God, D. You know I love you, but you have terrible taste in hockey teams.

And how are those Blackhawks doing in the playoffs, Sis???

agzg 04-16-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2047436)
And how are those Blackhawks doing in the playoffs, Sis???

Oh you shut your mouth. Also, you know the Sabres are my favorite team.

BraveMaroon 04-16-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AOIIalum (Post 2047397)

@BraveMaroon, what was the deal with the catfish the other night? That was rather strange and unexpected.

Well, AOIIalum, I clearly had no idea. Special thanks to my sister, Drolefille for her excellent explanation. It was indeed, strange. My company has really good season passes, thanks to our relationship to a customer who is a huge corporate sponsor. They get raffled out, and I finally won them for the last home game of the year. 16 rows from the ice. YES!

Now, if you think the catfish is weird, you might be amused by our statues:

http://nashvillest.com/2011/04/15/ph...ds-pride-tgif/

This is a huge statue in the roundabout at Music Row (where all the country music businesses in Nashville reside). It also mysteriously appears in costume at St. Patrick's Day. It used to be very controversial, because under those clothes, the statues are nekkid. Impressionistic, but you can tell there are naughty bits. Oh, the horror!

Go Preds!

honeychile 04-16-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2047421)
UGH

Nothing makes my skin crawl and eyes bug out more than when people talk as if PETA is the go to group for protecting or saving animals.

Seriously! What if they raid a lab where one of the really horrific diseases is being tested? That fluffy little bunny that just hopped out of the lab could be a carrier of just about anything!

MysticCat 04-16-2011 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2047421)
UGH

Nothing makes my skin crawl and eyes bug out more than when people talk as if PETA is the go to group for protecting or saving animals.

My feelings exactly.

christiangirl 04-17-2011 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2047430)
God, D. You know I love you, but you have terrible taste in hockey teams.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2047436)
And how are those Blackhawks doing in the playoffs, Sis???

Quote:

Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2047438)
Oh you shut your mouth. Also, you know the Sabres are my favorite team.

*cough*Sharks*cough*

KSig RC 04-17-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 2047342)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp2695

I really hope I'm the only one who finds this completely inappropriate. I'm just waiting for PETA (or some other agency) to step in. You just don't do this to an animal, octopus or any other type. Common sense people!

It's pretty rad you've made your own a BRAND-NEW LATE-BREAKING issue that's happened since before you were born! Yay!

Common sense ahoy!

ASUADPi 04-17-2011 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 2047592)
It's pretty rad you've made your own a BRAND-NEW LATE-BREAKING issue that's happened since before you were born! Yay!

Common sense ahoy!

Please pull the stick out of your butt.

If you actually look at the link I posted, OMG, it was from yesterday.

No reason to be a rude #$%@.

I'm pretty sure I didn't hurt anyone by posting it. :rolleyes:

DrPhil 04-17-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2047421)
UGH

Nothing makes my skin crawl and eyes bug out more than when people talk as if PETA is the go to group for protecting or saving animals.

Exactly.

My only problem with this is the waste of a tasty octopus. They could've cooked and seasoned that badboy and detached its parts for a tasty treat. Yum.

FleurGirl 04-17-2011 09:19 AM

1) Obviously, PETA only cares about cute animals.

2) I actually like giving the cephalopods a chance to fly.

DrPhil 04-17-2011 09:32 AM

Totally Random:

Seeing octopus and PETA in the same thread made me think of this. James Bond is such a sexist invention. As much as I enjoyed all of those movies (technically only the Sean Connery, Roger Moore, and kind of Pierce Brosnan movies), there's so much sexism and patriarchy in them. I reminded myself of how Octopussy (the 13th Bond movie in 1983) was so darn sexist.

LOL but WOW.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...Kpu4Z2W1ShrtdO
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...efySzOBG6gmnQw
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Drolefille 04-17-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2047605)
Exactly.

My only problem with this is the waste of a tasty octopus. They could've cooked and seasoned that badboy and detached its parts for a tasty treat. Yum.

No need for cooking ...

PM_Mama00 04-17-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 2047342)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp2695

I really hope I'm the only one who finds this completely inappropriate. I'm just waiting for PETA (or some other agency) to step in. You just don't do this to an animal, octopus or any other type. Common sense people!

Bitter much?

Dee, my family knows the guy who began the tradition. He is Italian and from the Downriver area :)


Hey hey HOCKEYTOWN!

DrPhil 04-17-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2047640)
No need for cooking ...

I think I've only had raw octopus once or twice.

LOL @ the OP being the only one in this thread who is outraged. Animal rights and common sense have multiple definitions.

PM_Mama00 04-17-2011 01:39 PM

http://proicehockey.about.com/od/his...it_octopus.htm

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...e.jpg?x=675045

FHwku 04-17-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BraveMaroon (Post 2047375)
Go Preds!!!!!

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AlphaFrog 04-17-2011 01:45 PM

From what I gather about PETA, it's really more their mission to rid the world of animals on the guise of protecting them. If there aren't any animals, people can't hurt them, right?

DrPhil 04-17-2011 01:46 PM

Yay @ Duck Hunt. Awesomeness.

PiKA2001 04-17-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2047717)
From what I gather about PETA, it's really more their mission to rid the world of animals on the guise of protecting them. If there aren't any animals, people can't hurt them, right?

They don't believe that people have the "right" to "own" animals, and that animals should be free. The problem I have with that is because of a thing called "domestication" most pet animals can't survive without some sort of human care. But no worries, that's where PETA comes in with their gas chambers. According to the PETA kills site PETA had a kill rate of 94% of animals in their shelter in 2010. I guess it's better to see dogs and cats dead than (gasp), a HUMAN adopting them.


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