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sororitymom222 04-10-2011 01:37 PM

Initiation GPA to a sorority
 
can anyone tell me what GPA is required to be initiated to a sorority? is it set by the sorority's national office or by the school panhellenic?

Fridayyyy 04-10-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sororitymom222 (Post 2045332)
can anyone tell me what GPA is required to be initiated to a sorority? is it set by the sorority's national office or by the school panhellenic?

Tell your DAUGHTER to ask her school's Greek Life office HERSELF.

DrPhil 04-10-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sororitymom222 (Post 2045332)
can anyone tell me what GPA is required to be initiated to a sorority? is it set by the sorority's national office or by the school panhellenic?

If you're asking for yourself, contact the school's Greek Life office.

If you're asking for your daughter, tell your daughter to contact the school's Greek Life office.

crescent&pearls 04-10-2011 01:50 PM

Most NPC organizations no longer have a GPA requirement to be initiated. That was pretty much eliminated with the implementation of shorter new member programs. Your daughter should be fully informed what the requirements for initiation are for her chapter. If she's unclear, she needs to talk to her chapter's VP Membership.

If an initiated member's grades are below the all sorority and/or all women's average she will probably be required to participate in a study skills program and may lose social privileges until her grades improve.

preciousjeni 04-10-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crescent&pearls (Post 2045340)
Most NPC organizations no longer have a GPA requirement to be initiated.

I've just learned something new. Using the all sorority or all women's average makes a lot of sense in terms of an accurate comparison.

agzg 04-10-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crescent&pearls (Post 2045340)
Most NPC organizations no longer have a GPA requirement to be initiated. That was pretty much eliminated with the implementation of shorter new member programs. Your daughter should be fully informed what the requirements for initiation are for her chapter. If she's unclear, she needs to talk to her chapter's VP Membership.

If an initiated member's grades are below the all sorority and/or all women's average she will probably be required to participate in a study skills program and may lose social privileges until her grades improve.

This is not true (please don't use qualifiers like "most").

It's just that if she doesn't meet the requirement prior to recruitment, she will probably not get a bid. Also, the study skills/study hours programs are a chapter/organization thing and the requirements to be a part of such a study program are therefore set by the chapter/organization.

AOII Angel 04-10-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2045346)
This is not true (please don't use qualifiers like "most").

It's just that if she doesn't meet the requirement prior to recruitment, she will probably not get a bid. Also, the study skills/study hours programs are a chapter/organization thing and the requirements to be a part of such a study program are therefore set by the chapter/organization.

Agreed.

sororitymom222 04-10-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fridayyyy (Post 2045334)
Tell your DAUGHTER to ask her school's Greek Life office HERSELF.

No need to be a jerk Fridayyyyy! She actually is still in high school, and I'm just trying to have answers to questions I know she will ask me in the next year or so. It is called being a good mother. Doubt you understand the concept!

sororitymom222 04-10-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2045349)
Agreed.


Thanks to those who were helpful! It has been more than 25 years since my sorority days, so I knew things had probably changed. My son is in a frat, but I know things are totally different on the sorority side of the greek system.

agzg 04-10-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sororitymom222 (Post 2045350)
No need to be a jerk Fridayyyyy! She actually is still in high school, and I'm just trying to have answers to questions I know she will ask me in the next year or so. It is called being a good mother. Doubt you understand the concept!

Insinuating that someone is a bad mother on this board is stupid, mostly because many of us either don't have kids or see kids as irrelevant to our greek life experiences.

You know, the ones we had. Ourselves. Instead of through our kids.

Best thing for your daughter to do is to wait until the appropriate time and then contact the local alumnae Panhellenic. They can answer many of her questions and she can also read the greek life page of her chosen school, and contact the greek life advisor on her campus. Best thing you can do is direct her to these resources if you don't know the answer off the top of your head (rather than finding out for her/giving her misinformation).

sororitymom222 04-10-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2045335)
If you're asking for yourself, contact the school's Greek Life office.

If you're asking for your daughter, tell your daughter to contact the school's Greek Life office.

Daughter is in high school....came on this site because I felt I could get an honest answer, which I did by the other helpful posters.

AOII Angel 04-10-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sororitymom222 (Post 2045350)
No need to be a jerk Fridayyyyy! She actually is still in high school, and I'm just trying to have answers to questions I know she will ask me in the next year or so. It is called being a good mother. Doubt you understand the concept!

Chill. Just so you know, sororities have different requirements on the (inter)national level for GPA. Many sororities allow their chapters to vote on a higher GPA cut-off locally. Depending on the campus, the cut-off may be very high for the more competitive chapters. The Campus Panhellenic can mandate a certain GPA to sign up for recruitment, but this does NOT mean that the GPA is consistent with the requirements of the individual chapters. That's basically a long winded way of saying that your daughter needs to maintain the highest GPA possible.

DrPhil 04-10-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sororitymom222 (Post 2045355)
Daughter is in high school....came on this site because I felt I could get an honest answer, which I did by the other helpful posters.

You're too dumb to realize no one answered your question.

DrPhil 04-10-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Helicopter in Training
No need to be a jerk Fridayyyyy! She actually is still in high school, and I'm just trying to have answers to questions I know she will ask me in the next year or so. It is called being a good mother. Doubt you understand the concept!

Twenty-five years is not so long that you don't know the more effective way to find out about GPAs.

33girl 04-10-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by crescent&pearls (Post 2045340)
Most NPC organizations no longer have a college GPA requirement for first semester freshmen to be initiated. That was pretty much eliminated with the implementation of shorter new member programs.

FYP.

Women who already have a college GPA (i.e. second semester freshmen and older) definitely have to meet a college GPA requirement to get a bid AND to be initiated.

DeltaBetaBaby 04-10-2011 03:45 PM

At some schools, the panhellenic recruitment book lists a minimum for each chapter. Even this may be a lie. So, higher GPA's are better. Anyone should be able to figure that out.

victoriana 04-10-2011 04:31 PM

At the risk of getting yelled at... every sorority woman I know had a minimum chapter GPA requirement of a 2.5. As other posters have said, it is up to the discretion of individual chapters or College Panhellenic Councils to raise the bar to a higher GPA.

MysticCat 04-10-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sororitymom222 (Post 2045350)
No need to be a jerk Fridayyyyy! She actually is still in high school, and I'm just trying to have answers to questions I know she will ask me in the next year or so. It is called being a good mother. Doubt you understand the concept!

Wow. So the appropriate reaction when you think someone is being a jerk is to act like a much bigger jerk? Got it.

BTW, I'm a parent too. I do understand it. And my idea of being a good parent is teaching my kids how to find the answers to their own questions, not doing it for them. But whatever works for you . . . .

Benzgirl 04-10-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2045360)
Twenty-five years is not so long that you don't know the more effective way to find out about GPAs.


Loved your quoted correction. And, and equally great answer. I have been out of school for 25+ years and instructed my nieces to tell their friends where THEY could find their answers. And it wasn't through their mom.

Barbie's_Rush 04-10-2011 08:20 PM

Just because a pnm meets a minimum gpa doesn't mean she won't be cut for grades anyway during a competitive recruitment. There are also consequences to falling below a gpa once you're an initiated member.

If her gpa is your big worry while princess is still in high school, I have the feeling she's not exactly going to be bringing the strongest package into recruitment. Maybe you should concentrate on the current state of her gpa versus what she will need to attain and maintain sorority membership.

ASTalumna06 04-11-2011 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 2045487)
If her gpa is your big worry while princess is still in high school, I have the feeling she's not exactly going to be bringing the strongest package into recruitment. Maybe you should concentrate on the current state of her gpa versus what she will need to attain and maintain sorority membership.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

katydidKD 04-11-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2045358)
You're too dumb to realize no one answered your question.

Why are you so rude? It's the internet. She politely asked a question. I don't understand why people are so mean on here. It's unbecoming.

Alumiyum 04-11-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045639)
Why are you so rude? It's the internet. She politely asked a question. I don't understand why people are so mean on here. It's unbecoming.

OP came back with an obnoxious response, to be fair. I feel the same way when someone gets jumped on for asking a question, but this was deserved.

I agree with those that suggest the daughter should find these things out herself. I remember going through and though my mother did help me with recs (and wardrobe haha) she made me find out answers to questions like these myself and that was the best way she could have handled it...I was used to asking questions and going to the trouble to find resources on my own before I even got there.

katydidKD 04-11-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2045644)
OP came back with an obnoxious response, to be fair. I feel the same way when someone gets jumped on for asking a question, but this was deserved.

I agree with those that suggest the daughter should find these things out herself. I remember going through and though my mother did help me with recs (and wardrobe haha) she made me find out answers to questions like these myself and that was the best way she could have handled it...I was used to asking questions and going to the trouble to find resources on my own before I even got there.

Just in general, members who have been posting on here for years (from what it looks like) want to execute someone for asking a question they don't like or that they think is dumb. Gosh, get over it. People have questions, and honestly its an internet forum...try not to care so much.

ASTalumna06 04-11-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sororitymom222 (Post 2045350)
She actually is still in high school, and I'm just trying to have answers to questions I know she will ask me in the next year or so. It is called being a good mother.

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Originally Posted by sororitymom222 (Post 2045355)
Daughter is in high school....came on this site because I felt I could get an honest answer, which I did by the other helpful posters.

The OP makes it sound as though her daughter is incapable of asking these questions herself because she is in high school. I find it hard to believe that a 17-18 year old girl doesn't know how to use the phone and/or internet.

When she asks you these questions, say to her, "Try calling the school's Greek Life office. They should give you all of that information," or ask her, "Have you searched for any information online?" Finding out all the answers for her isn't "being a good mother." It's ok to help where she needs it. Give her the phone number to the Greek Life office... Direct her to Greekchat where she can ask questions of other sorority members... But don't do the work for her. If you keep that up, she'll never learn to do these things on her own.

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2045644)
I agree with those that suggest the daughter should find these things out herself. I remember going through and though my mother did help me with recs (and wardrobe haha) she made me find out answers to questions like these myself and that was the best way she could have handled it...I was used to asking questions and going to the trouble to find resources on my own before I even got there.

Exactly.

knight_shadow 04-11-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045664)
Just in general, members who have been posting on here for years (from what it looks like) want to execute someone for asking a question they don't like or that they think is dumb. Gosh, get over it. People have questions, and honestly its an internet forum...try not to care so much.

You're right. It is an internet forum. If you don't like it, don't read it.

Try not to care so much.

katydidKD 04-11-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2045665)
The OP makes it sound as though her daughter is incapable of asking these questions herself because she is in high school. I find it hard to believe that a 17-18 year old girl doesn't know how to use the phone and/or internet.

When she asks you these questions, say to her, "Try calling the school's Greek Life office. They should give you all of that information," or ask her, "Have you searched for any information online?" Finding out all the answers for her isn't "being a good mother." It's ok to help where she needs it. Give her the phone number to the Greek Life office... Direct her to Greekchat where she can ask questions of other sorority members... But don't do the work for her. If you keep that up, she'll never learn to do these things on her own.



Exactly.

But why do you care about her mothering philosophy?

DrPhil 04-11-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045664)
Gosh, get over it...try not to care so much.

It's now your turn to drink the Kool Aid that you made.

katydidKD 04-11-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2045666)
You're right. It is an internet forum. If you don't like it, don't read it.

Try not to care so much.

I enjoy things like badge trends and what not. But you're right, everyone is so rude to others whom they disagree I should stop reading.

DrPhil 04-11-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045639)
It's unbecoming.

Unbecoming of.......

DrPhil 04-11-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045667)
But why do you care about her mothering philosophy?

For the same reason that you care about what we care about.

agzg 04-11-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045664)
Just in general, members who have been posting on here for years (from what it looks like) want to execute someone for asking a question they don't like or that they think is dumb. Gosh, get over it. People have questions, and honestly its an internet forum...try not to care so much.

It's like raaaaaaaaaaaaainnnnnnnnn...

katydidKD 04-11-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2045670)
Unbecoming of.......

I meant unbecoming conduct, I apologize.

DrPhil 04-11-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045674)
I meant unbecoming conduct, I apologize.

Unbecoming conduct of..........

ASTalumna06 04-11-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045667)
But why do you care about her mothering philosophy?

I'm just trying to help her out. If her daughter is going to be in college soon, she needs to let go and realize that her daughter needs to start doing these things for herself.

Otherwise, she'll be back here in September, starting a new thread, rambling on and on about how her darlibg daughter didn't get a bid to the "top tier" sorority, and she'll be wondering how that could have possibly happened! And like always, we'll say things like, "We don't know," and, "Let your daughter freak out on the internet herself (if she so chooses)."

We've seen it happen too many times.

katydidKD 04-11-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2045739)
I'm just trying to help her out. If her daughter is going to be in college soon, she needs to let go and realize that her daughter needs to start doing these things for herself.

Otherwise, she'll be back here in September, starting a new thread, rambling on and on about how her darlibg daughter didn't get a bid to the "top tier" sorority, and she'll be wondering how that could have possibly happened! And like always, we'll say things like, "We don't know," and, "Let your daughter freak out on the internet herself (if she so chooses)."

We've seen it happen too many times.

Understandable, I just don't get why certain people feel the need to be so unnecessarily rude.

knight_shadow 04-11-2011 11:17 AM

:rolleyes:

Get over it.

DrPhil 04-11-2011 11:17 AM

On the real, who the hell is katydidKD? LOL. That's quite a comfortable newbie...or sock puppet...whatever.

Everyone has an opinion and can share it if they have time to post. That doesn't mean that people won't respond to it however they choose. That's the GC disclaimer for the day.

ASTalumna06 04-11-2011 11:17 AM

Also.. If daughter hasn't even asked these questions yet, and mom is already looking for answers for her, it makes me wonder if mom wants this more than daughter does..

DrPhil 04-11-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2045740)
Understandable, I just don't get why certain people feel the need to be so unnecessarily rude.

Shut up, idiot.

There ya go.


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