Rumor: New Sorority at UCF?
 

True or false? I'm very interested in which one if it's true :)

LOL, how would we know? Ask your Greek advisor.

As a general rule, I would assume NPC expansion rumors to be false until proved otherwise. People have been whispering it at my campus since I joined at least...

Has Panhellenic voted for expansion? Until they do, it's just a rumor.

Damn. I definitely checked too. :o

No idea, but UCF is currently the 2nd largest school in the nation by enrollment. 10 years ago, quota was hovering near 70, with chapter total at 110 (?), and the addition of sororities was extremely productive to bring the size of the huge pledge classes back down to the 50s. Which is still too high, IMHO. I am all for expansion, and I think the school could stand to add several more sororities over the next few years.

ETA: There are currently 10 sororities at UCF, if anyone cares. ;)

I've heard they're bringing Delta Gamma back, I think they got disbanded a long time ago, so is that even possible?

I heard instead of bringing on a new chapter they're just going to split the largest chapter in TWO!

Let them fight over who gets to keep which letters?

Are the ickies in the running?

Agreed. But just for fun... Wild Speculation Time! Everytime the word "expansion" is uttered, UCF sorority women (collegians and alumnae) are always heard saying that it would be great to welcome back home our AXO and DG chapters. The DG chapter recolonization at UCF was ultimately unsuccessful, leading to the chapter handing their charter back over to nationals only a few years later, but I think that had more to do with circumstances than effort. The timing was off (ZTAngel can probably back me up on this), and the Panhellenic community at UCF (collegians and alumnae) would love to have them back.

I would have been all about this when I was in college. Every year our large chapter room (our chapter house completed an expansion project just before I joined) was bursting at the seams and we were always adding chairs. Somehow we squeezed everyone in, but I'm surprised we weren't violating any fire safety regulations.

Only if it involves a paintball tourney-turned-philanthropy, with the proceeds going to the sororities of Alpha, Delta, and Pi! :D

Two words:

Lingerie.

Pillowfight.

Gentlemen of GC, can I get a motion of "seconded"?

Yep. They reorganized my freshman year. They had closed only the semester before. IMHO, it wasn't enough time to squash the rumors and reputation. I knew about their reputation before I even stepped foot on the UCF campus, and I know I wasn't the only one. Also, four sororities colonized within a five year period of DG's reorganization and girls wanted to join chapters that had a "blank slate" rather than one that had preconceived notions. Their reorganization was pretty successful but the chapter started faltering soon after that. During formal recruitment that fall, they missed quota by a lot. Unfortunately, they were never able to overcome old misconceptions and they closed only a few years after the reorganization.

Just an FYI, we don't use the term "nationals." Their charter was returned to the Fraternity.

Are quick re-orgs ever successful?

Not so much anymore. Information just travels too quickly. It's not worth the $$$ to try to immediately regroup and have the same result as if you had just said "ok we're done for now, see you in 5 years if there's a hole."

It also depends on how the chapter is looked at by the campus community. If the group is one that's generally liked and has just gotten to the point where they're completely burnt out and truly do not have enough members to function, and are pretty much begging to get closed just so they can have a break, I can see that working more than if an HQ closes a chapter for image or RM reasons and tries to immediately recolonize.

FWIW, I classify "quick" as a year and a half or less.

I would say our University of Michigan and The Ohio State University re-orgs were both successful.

^^^ Crying at the fact that they're in the same sentence :(

How quick was the turn-around? And how recent were these?

At the University of Arizona AXO has tried to recolonize several times, but always to soon. The result was finally leaving and waiting at least 5+ years. The sorority members down there even recognize that they need to leave for that period of time so that there aren't people there who remember them. Adpi recolonized there and was very successful. A Phi did it at ASU many years ago and they have been very successful so it can be done and done right.

On a side note ASU is expanding. I believe 6 chapters sent packets.

In both cases, existing members took alumnae status with immediate recolonization the next term, in both cases. For the University of Michigan, it was a while ago.. 2000 or 2001. For The Ohio State University it was in 2007. When big houses are involved, it's worth the risk to try to recolonize immediately rather than have to wait for expansion opportunities in the future (see Michigan State and Berkeley).

You mean large physical houses?

I am so keeping my fingers crossed! ASU is in my backyard, and I would LOVE to be involved in a colonization.

Anyone know who's been there in the past?

Yes. Valuable real estate (you won't find me using the word "house" for "chapter".. it's a pet peeve of mine :) )

ASU is Arizona State right? According to Irishpipes recruitment thread, at least three groups did not make quota during formal and they are going to fix that by bringing on another group? Is this one of those places where girls just drop out if they don't get what they want or are all these groups picking up plenty of girls during informal? There weren't a lot of quota additions either, so were girls turning down bids or was quota too high?
I know nothing about this school, but I always worry when I see new groups coming on campus, if existing groups are not reaching quota.

Yes, Arizona State. There were 3 groups who didn't make quota you are correct. It is not going to "fix" that. I will tell you that 2 of the groups have struggled for years on campus and one of the groups was just recently recolonized and has been struggling AND one group just lost their Charter for a hazing incident. What tends to happen is women drop out of recruitment when they get released from the Chapters they wanted and since Greek Life is not that big of a deal at ASU they can have a great college experience without being in a sorority. I don't think quota was to high because they try to place as many women as possible. My guess would be that with RFM a lot of women had already "released" those groups by ranking them low so where quota was set placed the most amount of women still active in recruitment. Some of these Chapters did pick up a lot of women in informal recruitment. They had over 100 women interested in January and all the Chapters that made quota where well over total and unable to participate. With the amount of women we have going through recruitment it was imperative that we add another Chapter to help keep those quota numbers manageable for the Chapters. If you want more detailed information PM me.

Who's been on ASU's campus? Tri Sig (we were trying to remember when they left late 80's early 90's?), Alpha Sigma Alpha, Kappa Delta (this year), Tri Delta, Sigma Kappa and Sigma Delta Tau.

Per Irishpipes recruitment thread:

Arizona State University Tempe, AZ: September 3-7, 2010
Quota=60
Campus Total=125
Quota last year=50
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Gamma Phi Beta Beta Kappa 1949 (36)
Alpha Delta Pi Gamma Rho 1950 (48)
Sigma Sigma Sigma Beta Kappa 1950-?
Chi Omega Psi Epsilon 1951 (61)
Alpha Sigma Alpha Beta Chi 1952-1964
Kappa Delta Beta Psi 1952-2010 (60)
Alpha Epsilon Phi Epsilon Zeta 1958-1972/2006
Alpha Phi Gamma Pi 1958 (60)
Delta Gamma Gamma Phi 1958 (60)
Kappa Alpha Theta Delta Epsilon 1959 (61)
Kappa Kappa Gamma Epsilon Delta 1959 (60)
Delta Delta Delta Phi Omega 1965-1997
Pi Beta Phi Arizona Beta 1965 (60)
Alpha Chi Omega Zeta Pi 1982 (62)
Alpha Gamma Delta Delta Xi 1987-2005/2009 (20)
Sigma Kappa Theta Omicron 1989-2002
Sigma Delta Tau Gamma Psi 1992-?
Delta Zeta Pi Zeta 2005 (60)

Quota 60 and total 120? Is that just because quota has been growing rapidly (and thus the expansion) or is there a retention issue?

I believe it is quota growing rapidly. Average chapter size after recruitment was 144 well above total. Every Chapter but one was above total after recruitment. I think a bump of 10 on quota is huge in a year. They have projected the numbers to continue to grow over a 5 year period.

Bumping. I met a collegian today who said DZ was selected and that Tri-Sig may also be coming on next. Has anyone heard anything to confirm/refute this?

Which school? UCF and Arizona State have presentations this week. Good luck to all the groups presenting!

Who's presenting at ASU?