Hmmm....how do you "pledged for a sorority"? And "to initiate" is to start something....not to BE initiated. And how do you change your mind and WANT to "initiate", yet feel pressured all at the same time? And if I participate in sex for "only a few minutes" does that I mean I can't get pregnant? Or is that when I am supposed to "withdrawed"? And if you don't know any of their secrets, how do you know what is secret? Or is that a secret? And is your "last president" the "last" person that was president of the chapter that you don't belong to, or the "last president" of the chapter you tried to join before they kicked your sorry behind to the curb? And does the same apply for your "current president"...or are you really trying to get us to fall for something with the hook and the line (cause this post of yours for sure is a DAMN SINKER!)

Who's right??? A guy named "Lefty"! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

You took the words right out of my mouth! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif



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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents with the rest of y'all: What sorority or fraternity lets you get initiated before you've paid an initiation fee? I've never heard of THAT before! hmmmm... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

Ha ha ha, very funny guys! I am serious.
What is so suspicious about my post?
Just because I am in a strange situation, does not mean I am in a false one.

LET'S MAKE IT SIMPLE
I know you can't join another NPC sorority if you already had initiated for one of them.
But, can you join another NPC sorority if you only particated the first few mintutes of initiation from one sorority?

JUST ANWER THE QUESTION, YOU GUYS DO NOT NEED MY LIFE HISTORY?

Number one, your semantics are JACKED UP.

Number two, you have a lot of nerve DEMANDING we answer your question. Ha, good luck with THAT attitude.

Probably not the best idea to cyber yell at people you're looking to for opinions/adivice.

Just a thought.

Okay, seriously. From reading your first post it sounds like you're talking about a Pledging In ritual, not an Initiation ritual. If this is the case, that's a whole different story.

Ooops, meant to add this before I sent the last post: I'd just explain the situation to your NPC and let them tell you what to do.

somethinstupid,

I think you may be confused about some of the deffinitions of the words you are using. I do not think you would be pressed into initiation (maybe pledging). If you didn't want to be in the organization and made it known to them you didn't want to be initiated they won't initiate you. If you then change your mind and then decide you do want to become an initiated member the organization will usually make you re-pledge and go through the entire pledge program again. It's supprising they would even take you back at all.

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Phi Kappa Sigma
Alpha Epsilon Chapter

What matters is if the organization, let's call it Group A,considers you to be an initiated member. If they don't and you have relinquished all your pledge pins, letters, etc., you would be able to join another NPC group after waiting one calendar year.

If the group considers you a member, then you would have to work with your national office to see if they can have your membership status annulled (not revoked). If your membership is revoked, you would not be able to join another group. If you could 'annull' the membership (you are saying that you were never fully initiated), you would be available to pledge another NPC group in one calendar year.

Answer these questions:

Did you pay your initation fee? If yes,was the fee reimbursed?
Did you pay for and receive your membership badge?

If Group A does not consider you to be a member AND you left the group in good standing, you would be eligible to pledge another NPC group, one year from now.

I don't understand the semantics of this. OK, you initiated? Or were you initiated? Am I asking a question that seems moronic, because it does to me, but who knows?

I don't know what the heck the answer to this is other than, if you paid for the initiation, whether you went to the ceremony or not, you're in because they have sent your name to their national. I never heard of having your membership annulled, but I guess anything is possible.

Wacko alert! Wacko alert!!

Guys seriously, if this chick was going to be initiated into any of the 26 NPC soroities-She WOULD KNOW the difference between the terms she is using and be using the correct ones. My only explanation is that she is talking about INDUCTION, which is done like right after bid day (at least I hope this is what she is talking about) Because thats her only excuse for being as unknowledgeable on this topic. If indeed it is induction (a ritual where you are formally recognized as a pledge of the sorority) then, yes after one calander year you are free to attempt to join another group. However, be forewarned that many groups will think twice about someone who originally picked someone else as there first choice. I sure would. You would have to be superdooper pledge of the year material for a bid after you went to another arganization.

There seems to be a lot of wackos on Greek Chat lately. Weird....

"Just the part all of the sororities/fraternities go through..."???

What the....???

In a big dillema!
 

Last semester I pledged for a sorority. I wasn't too thrilled about the sorority I pledged for. So I told them I did not want to initiate, however I felt pressured. I changed my mind, I wanted to initiate. I participated in the ceremony/ritual only a few minutes, and then I withdrawed. I did not agree to anything, nor swear/promised anything, I didn't sign anything, I did not take an oath, didn't pay the initiation fee, and the most important I do not know any of their secrets.

My last president told me that since I did not go through the whole initiation (just the part all of the sororities/fraternities go through) I can join another sorority under NPC. However, my current president told me a couple of days ago that I cannot join another
sorority under NPC.

Who's right?

possibly because the followers.com board was shut down, that was wacko central for awhile.

When they blindfold you, put you in a robe, and then some one knocks on the door, before you enter. Sounds familiar?

That was the furthest I made it into the initiation ritual and then I told them I did not want to go through the rest of the ritual.

No somethinstupid, it doesn't sound familiar. And I ask the question again, WHY IN THE WORLD DID THEY WANT TO INITIATE YOU IF YOU DIDN'T PAY THE INITIATION FEE!?!?!?

It's not that I want to rejoin that sorority, I want to join another one.

Two things. Number one, I paid the dues which was the same amount as the initiation fee and maybe they noted it as an initiation fee. Number two they are desperate for girls we only have 26 girls in our chapter, we are the smallest sorority on our campus, which is of 4500 students!

Most NPC sororities have a separate initiation fee that one has to pay prior to being initiated. In order to fulfill all initiation requirements, she has to make sure that all financial obligations have been met, and I can't think of any NPC sorority that will initiate a woman regardless if they were "desperate" or not. Monthly dues, new member fees, and initiation fees are 3 different things.

I also think it's funny how you still refer to yourself as being affiliated with them: "WE ONLY HAVE 26 GIRLS IN OUR CHAPTER, WE ARE THE SMALLEST SORORITY ON CAMPUS..."

If you didn't want to go through initiation with one NPC sorority, what makes you think you're material for another one? These are things to consider BEFORE initiation...and not the morning of.

So you're trying to say that all NPC sororities are the same! I don't think your fellow posters will be too happy to read that.

Don't even try to turn my fellow GreekChatters against me! It's pretty safe to say that they found your post suspicious from the start (GreekChatters, I think you know where this is going).

You are insane. If you REFUSED to go through initiation, then why would your GLO still want to have anything to do with you? And why in the world WOULD YOU STILL WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH THEM IF YOU'RE NOT PLANNING TO BE INITATED? I'm surprised that these girls haven't kicked your butt to the curb!

Your attitude toward your sorority is what sparked my question: What makes you think you're material for another one? Your wishy-washy attitude isn't going to get you anywhere.

I'm going to stamp a big FISH on your post!

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Hey OTW! I think we all know who somethinstupid is and since I posted this on the Gracie ChiO thread to thank them for their noble character, I would like to once again dedicate this to the Verzys...here it is, "ladies" (ha!), muchas gracias...
http://baronbbs.com/bfsbbs/sound/DUELBANJ.MID

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Yep, I am insane because did not initiate for a sorority full of snobs that only calls me when they need money, never invite me to go out with them, and does not even speak to me when they see me!

It is not that I want to be affiliated with them, it's that I am still affiliated with them! I am still in that sorority, but I am planning on quitting. But, before I quit I want to know if I an join another one, if I can't, I want to stick around for the next pledge class to see if they are any better.

GreekChatters (not you, stupid), if you were in a GLO filled with "stuck up snobs", who "only call you when they need money", who "never invite you to go out with them", and who has members that "don't speak to you when they see you"...chances are you wouldn't want to be a part of that GLO, right?

And...chances are you wouldn't stick around to see if the new incoming pledge class was "any better", right?

Like a GLO, desperate or not, would let some wonk stick around who supposedly didn't pay her initiation dues and disses her sisters and backed out a few minutes into initiation!

Kristin was whining around about wanting to join another GLO, like they would want her with her track record. Hey yeah, let's take someone who published our secrets on the web and has a mother from hell and libeled half the chapter by full name on the internet!

Right. Bye, Verzys.

Well it's either GREEK or GEEK.
I rather stay in a sorority that I don't like that much than to be in no sorority at all!

First of all, I'd like to apologize to our non-Greek GreekChatters for stupid's Greek/Geek statement. She obviously doesn't know any better. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif Stupid, you do realize that there are people on this board who choose not to be in a GLO, right?

Any woman who expects to boost her social status just by membership in a sorority doesn't deserve to be in one. Why be in a sorority if your sisters don't like you at all? If you need a sorority just to boost your ego and not be labeled as a "geek", then you need help.

Ouch! One of the biggest bitches I've seen in a while. I feel sorry for your sorority sisters or anyone on your college campus. I hope you don't go to Southern Illinois University at Ewardsville.

I just have a question I thought she said that she was not IN the sorority because she did not complete rituals. Then she said that she was in the sorority and was quitting.

Is it just me or is something not just stupid but also wrong?

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[This message has been edited by lluvmook98 (edited April 09, 2001).]

Not that stupid even deserves an answer to the question... but. We had a girl from my pledge class simply not show up for initiation even though no one knew she wasn't coming. She disaffiliated after our initiation had taken place and pledged another house the following year. Be advised that this is really bad form and will create a lot of bad feelings - especially on a campus as small as SIU. Then again, someone who would show up for initiation and then walk out part way through has no concept of tact and dignity to begin with.

WOW!!! That's pretty harsh. I know tons of people that aren't Greek and they are definitely not geeks. I think you need to totally rethink everything you've said on here and the names you've called people before you post again.

Other than that...have a really nice day!

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Veruca, you are so right. This person sparked my curiosity, so I went and checked SIU-Edwardsville's website. The number of NPC sororities on that campus is extremely small (compared to other campuses).

You never know who's watching these boards!

You know what? Screw it! (Most) social sororities suck anyways. Thanx for the advice Ohteenyweenytitties!

I understand that some people were pretty harsh about your original question, somethinstupid. But that doesn't mean you should insult them. Please try to be more civil when posting on GreekChat. Thanks! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

OTW, you are a highly respected member of GC and I know you're not in the least affected by the psychotic whinings of the tag team. They will certainly, I expect, be ousted again while you will continue to post some great insights on the board!

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LOL Carnation. First I was a "bitch" and then I had "teeny titties"...is that the best she/they could do? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif It's no wonder why she can't get along with her "sorority sisters".

I only delved deeper into her suspicious post, and hey--if she/they can't handle it and needs to resort to petty name calling, then to each her own. Let's try and see if anyone really takes her posts seriously after this one!