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DeltaZeta09 03-28-2011 11:58 AM

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Benzgirl 03-28-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaZeta09 (Post 2041654)
I am considering dropping my sorority... here is the basic rundown of the pros and cons. and a bit why.

PROs:
- Alumni relations for life
- Greek life can be fun, especially all-greek events
- Leadership opportunities that I have taken advantage of
- I am close with some girls especially my big and a few girls from my PC

CONs
- our chapter fines so much I can barely afford it
- My adviser is horrible to me - she has mocked my intelligence, told my sisters to not vote for me when I ran for a position, and tried to get one of my friends to stop talking to me. I have one of the highest GPAs in the house though, and this same adviser will come to me for advice when dealing with recruitment/other events
- There are some girls in our chapter that are so disrespectful and quirky that I am embarassed to be aligned with them. I will never judge a girl on looks, but these girls are not close to being women and barely represent our pillars for our sorority.
- My grades are always close to suffering because it's so time consuming
- We don't excel during recruitment - we always have to spend extra time recruiting and it takes time away from other activities
- There are two girls dropping that I am so close to
- I feel very stigmitized in the chapter; pnms literally tell me during recruitment they would not like to come back to our house/tell me they've heard we're weird. When I wear my letters, I try to do so with pride, but it is hard when many other girls on campus will literally sneer at me
- The chapter I joined was my third to last choice. My Rho Gamma told me that if I didn't join, I probably would never get into a chapter via COBing because she thought all chapters may be at total. I didn't undersatnd anything about greek life, and actually every chapter had spots. The chapter I wanted to be in so badly told me the next day that they had accidently cut me on the third night and they were going to bid me had I waited 24 hours.

Idk what to do.


QFP. You have quite a bit of info on GC about yourself to remain anonymous. My suggestion is to speak with your president since you are not a new member.

agzg 03-28-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaZeta09 (Post 2041654)
- There are some girls in our chapter that are so disrespectful and quirky that I am embarassed to be aligned with them. I will never judge a girl on looks, but these girls are not close to being women and barely represent our pillars for our sorority.

What?

Drop, you'd be doing the chapter a favor.

33girl 03-28-2011 12:32 PM

I am borrowing KSUViolet's pen for my answers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaZeta09 (Post 2041654)
CONs
- our chapter fines so much I can barely afford it Solution: Don't blow off events or do things to incur a fine!

- My adviser is horrible to me - she has mocked my intelligence, told my sisters to not vote for me when I ran for a position, and tried to get one of my friends to stop talking to me. I have one of the highest GPAs in the house though, and this same adviser will come to me for advice when dealing with recruitment/other events Do the other girls actually listen to her and do what she tells them? How old is this advisor anyway? If you feel that she's being abusive to you, go over her head to your regional person in charge of collegians (whatever you call it) or, if she is a non-sister that the school compels the chapter to have as an advisor, notify the Greek life advisor or student life director.

- There are some girls in our chapter that are so disrespectful and quirky that I am embarassed to be aligned with them. I will never judge a girl on looks, but these girls are not close to being women and barely represent our pillars for our sorority.I don't quite understand how "disrespectful" and "quirky" fit in the same breath, and I looked at your chapter website and they all look like women to me. If your idea of "respectful" or "womanly" means people should look, dress and act like June Cleaver, I suggest you broaden your horizons a little.

- My grades are always close to suffering because it's so time consuming
Part of being in a sorority is learning time management. This isn't the sorority's fault.

- We don't excel during recruitment - we always have to spend extra time recruiting and it takes time away from other activities What are YOU doing personally to alleviate this problem? Do you introduce unaffilated friends to your sisters? Have you asked your HQ or the other chapters in the state to help you?

- There are two girls dropping that I am so close to If they jumped off a building, would you do it? You can still be friends with them even if they drop out.

- I feel very stigmatized in the chapter; pnms literally tell me during recruitment they would not like to come back to our house/tell me they've heard we're weird. When I wear my letters, I try to do so with pride, but it is hard when many other girls on campus will literally sneer at me That is their problem, don't make it yours. If someone said your parents were trashy or nuts or something, you would defend them, wouldn't you? Don't let others' opinions color how you feel if you're having fun and making friendships.

- The chapter I joined was my third to last choice. My Rho Gamma told me that if I didn't join, I probably would never get into a chapter via COBing because she thought all chapters may be at total. I didn't undersatnd anything about greek life, and actually every chapter had spots. The chapter I wanted to be in so badly told me the next day that they had accidently cut me on the third night and they were going to bid me had I waited 24 hours. THIS CHAPTER (the one you wanted to be in so badly that is) IS A BUNCH OF JERKS. If they wanted you that badly, they would have given you a bid in the first place! What they are saying is that "well, you weren't good enough to be our first choice, but we'd come to you after we went through all the other girls on our bid lists." IF that is even the truth.


AnotherKD 03-28-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaZeta09 (Post 2041654)
I am considering dropping my sorority... here is the basic rundown of the pros and cons. and a bit why.

PROs:
- Alumni relations for life
- Greek life can be fun, especially all-greek events
- Leadership opportunities that I have taken advantage of
- I am close with some girls especially my big and a few girls from my PC

CONs
1- our chapter fines so much I can barely afford it
2- My adviser is horrible to me - she has mocked my intelligence, told my sisters to not vote for me when I ran for a position, and tried to get one of my friends to stop talking to me. I have one of the highest GPAs in the house though, and this same adviser will come to me for advice when dealing with recruitment/other events
3- There are some girls in our chapter that are so disrespectful and quirky that I am embarassed to be aligned with them. I will never judge a girl on looks, but these girls are not close to being women and barely represent our pillars for our sorority.
4- My grades are always close to suffering because it's so time consuming
5- We don't excel during recruitment - we always have to spend extra time recruiting and it takes time away from other activities
6- There are two girls dropping that I am so close to
7- I feel very stigmitized in the chapter; pnms literally tell me during recruitment they would not like to come back to our house/tell me they've heard we're weird. When I wear my letters, I try to do so with pride, but it is hard when many other girls on campus will literally sneer at me
8- The chapter I joined was my third to last choice. My Rho Gamma told me that if I didn't join, I probably would never get into a chapter via COBing because she thought all chapters may be at total. I didn't undersatnd anything about greek life, and actually every chapter had spots. The chapter I wanted to be in so badly told me the next day that they had accidently cut me on the third night and they were going to bid me had I waited 24 hours.

Idk what to do.

Okay, I numbered your cons so that I can address them more easily.

1) Chapter FINES or DUES? If it's dues, then you can probably set up a payment plan with your treasurer. We could do that. But if you're being fined for something (non-attendance, grade issues, whatever), then that's your own fault.

2) Not everyone gets along with their advisor. I know a lot of people that thought their advisor was overbearing, making things "not fun", or just being "old" and whatnot. You can either choose to sit down with her and see what problems she has with you, or you can continue to think that she's against you for some random reason and be in the same position. Or talk to your President or someone else in leadership about it.

3) Do you have a standards board? If these girls are disrespecting what your sorority stands for, then there are ways to address this.

4) It sounds as if you're an all-or-nothing type of person. You can still be active and study at the same time. Participate in study hours in the house or in a cafeteria or somewhere else. There are hundreds of thousands of girls and guys that strike a balance every single year. Exercise good time management, because believe me, you will need that skill even more when you're out of college.

5) Please explain what you mean about taking time away from other activities.... Why do you suffer during recruitment? Apathy from other sisters, like you're projecting?

6) So what? I had a lot of friends outside of the greek system. There is nothing that says you can't be friends with non-greeks.

7) I find this kind of hard to believe. But in your previous points, it seems like you think that people have it out for you.

8) What's done is done, and that's all in the past. You can either think about what could've been and be miserable, or you can make it what you want. There are plenty of people that don't get into their first or second choices, but they make the best of it and a lot of the times make the sorority better by the time they left than when they joined.

But it seemed like you just joined because you only wanted letters across your chest. If you don't want to make an effort to change what you don't like about it, then quit, because otherwise you will be miserable and you will be bringing your sisters down with you.

AnotherKD 03-28-2011 12:35 PM

Haha 33girl- jinx. :)

33girl 03-28-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2041664)
Haha 33girl- jinx. :)

Mine is prettier than yours. :D

AnotherKD 03-28-2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2041667)
Mine is prettier than yours. :D


Substance over style.

I kid, I kid!!! ;)

ThetaPrincess24 03-28-2011 12:45 PM

I'm just curious how you can have one of the highest GPAs in the chapter and then say a few lines later your GPA is almost always suffering due to sorority life.

Are you on scholarship? Do you have to keep a 3.7 or something to keep your scholarship?

LaneSig 03-28-2011 12:48 PM

Did I read correctly? You have one of the highest GPAs in your sorority, but your grade are always close to suffering?

ThetaPrincess noticed the same thing.

KSUViolet06 03-28-2011 12:53 PM

Why do people feel the need to come here and talk about how badly they want to quit?

I mean, 99% of the time, they pretty much have their minds made up to do it and are just seeking validation. So dumb.

AnotherKD 03-28-2011 12:54 PM

I don't know why that didn't register with me when I read through her post. I'll blame it on it being Monday. Yeah, that's confusing.

33girl 03-28-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2041671)
Did I read correctly? You have one of the highest GPAs in your sorority, but your grade are always close to suffering?

ThetaPrincess noticed the same thing.

Well, if everyone else has 2.7s and you have a 3.0 and you're used to having a 4.0, it might bug you a little.

DrPhil 03-28-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2041674)
Why do people feel the need to come here and talk about how badly they want to quit?

I mean, 99% of the time, they pretty much have their minds made up to do it and are just seeking validation. So dumb.

I agree.

It also sucks when Greekchat is their big moment of realization. "Oh these usernames are right, I should try attending events more, I should stay!!"

sigmadiva 03-28-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2041674)
Why do people feel the need to come here and talk about how badly they want to quit?

I mean, 99% of the time, they pretty much have their minds made up to do it and are just seeking validation. So dumb.

That, or they want us to beg them not to quit.

They want us (GC) to say this to them -> "Please don't quit your chapter. The entire greek system at your school will completely fall apart if you leave!!! How can you leave. WE NEED YOU!!!!!"

:rolleyes: yeah, right.....

LaneSig 03-28-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2041676)
Well, if everyone else has 2.7s and you have a 3.0 and you're used to having a 4.0, it might bug you a little.

As long as I had a 2.0 I could be active, so I figured why knock myself out? :D

KSUViolet06 03-28-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2041676)
Well, if everyone else has 2.7s and you have a 3.0 and you're used to having a 4.0, it might bug you a little.

I'm going to be a little bit of a meanie here. Sorry.:

It annoys me when people blame the sorority for drops in their GPA. It is perfectly possible for you to have a 3.5 (for example) before joining and maintain said 3.5 afterward.

I mean, it's not a chapter's fault that someone doesn't manage their time well enough as a member to maintain their grades. It definitely can be done.

My GPA had a slight dip at one point (from a 3.7 to a 3.5) after I turned 21. This was while I was holding multiple chairs and being part of another time consming student org. I have never had a GPA lower than 3.6 so it bugged me. However, I wasn't immediately all "OMG Sigma is causing my grades to drop. Maybe I should quit!1"

I buckled down, skipped a couple nights of Ladies' Night/partying, went home immediately after chapter and did homework (instead of hanging around for after chapter for an hour, going home, getting on FB and rushing through my work), cut back on some optional events for a while and got them back up. No big deal/drama or saying I was going to quit.

Yes, it's time consuming. But a lot of things in life are going to be time consuming. It's all in how you manage. I just think that people are too quick to blame the sorority for grade issues instead of looking at how they are managing their time with sorority responsibilities.

DrPhil 03-28-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigmadiva (Post 2041681)
That, or they want us to beg them not to quit.

They want us (GC) to say this to them -> "Please don't quit your chapter. The entire greek system at your school will completely fall apart if you leave!!! How can you leave. WE NEED YOU!!!!!"

:rolleyes: yeah, right.....

LOL. Some GCers have seemingly begged people not to quit before.

DrPhil 03-28-2011 01:38 PM

Okay, so this is when I ask what distinguishes one poster who creates a thread about dropping from another poster who creates a thread about dropping.

NPHC droppers tend to be told to go to hell regardless of their story.

But, for NPC it seems as though some people are met with compassion and empathy and others aren't. The latter is more amusing but I'm just curious. :D

sigmadiva 03-28-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2041694)
Okay, so this is when I ask what distinguishes one poster who creates a thread about dropping from another poster who creates a thread about dropping.

NPHC droppers tend to be told to go to hell regardless of their story.

But, for NPC it seems as though some people are met with compassion and empathy and others aren't. The latter is more amusing but I'm just curious. :D

@ the bold: YUP!!!!!!!

DrPhil 03-28-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigmadiva (Post 2041695)
@ the bold: YUP!!!!!!!

That's why GC is so quiet lately. If only we were more receptive to NPHC aspirants and members who wanted to share. :(

agzg 03-28-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2041694)
But, for NPC it seems as though some people are met with compassion and empathy and others aren't. The latter is more amusing but I'm just curious. :D

For me, there are new members thinking about dropping (compassion), newly actives thinking about dropping (cautious compassion), then this jerk.

I can understand new members and newly-actives because the experience is pretty heady.

This jerk called her sisters "not women" and has been active for a while. She also tried to shame a group of us for scratching our heads at the way the media has covered the Natalee Holloway debacle, telling us we're not good greeks. Also, this is not the first time implying that her chapter has bid less-than-desireables.

Therefore, I choose not to show any compassion.

DrPhil 03-28-2011 01:55 PM

LOL. Oh yeah, that's the idiot from the strangely amusing Holloway thread.

I understand.

Benzgirl 03-28-2011 02:05 PM

OP is starting to Speed-Delete. Unfortunately for her, most of her posts were QFP'd.

DrPhil 03-28-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaZeta09 (Post 2041654)
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Each day through my window I watch her as she passes by
I say to myself 'I'm such a lucky guy'
To have a girl like her is truly a dream come true
Out of all the fellas in the world she belongs to me

But it was just my imagination
Running away with me
It was just my imagination
Running away with me

DeltaZeta09 03-28-2011 02:15 PM

I'm not trying to delete my post, I was going to edit it for more details. It sounded rude, and I realize that, I'm sorry. I probably won't bother editing it anymore since I can tell people are upset and it's not gonna matter how I rephrase it. For the 'not women' comment, I dont LITERALLY mean that, I would describe what I mean but no matter how I do it I think it's gonna be attacked which I deserve because it was phrased rudely.

DrPhil 03-28-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaZeta09 (Post 2041723)
I'm not trying to delete my post, I was going to edit it for more details.

Bullshit.

AZTheta 03-28-2011 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2041720)
Each day through my window I watch her as she passes by
I say to myself 'I'm such a lucky guy'
To have a girl like her is truly a dream come true
Out of all the fellas in the world she belongs to me

But it was just my imagination
Running away with me
It was just my imagination
Running away with me

DrPhil, you must stop channeling/stay out of my iPod! It's really heavy on the Motown right now;every spring I seem to go right to the Temptations/Four Tops/Smokey Robinson/Impressions/Marvin Gaye/Sam Cooke tunes. Takes me to a happy place, instantly. Right now, here's what's on:

I ain't got time to think about money
Or what it can buy
And I ain't got time to sit down and wonder
What makes a birdie fly

And I don't have the time to think about
What makes a flower grow
And I've never given a second thought
To where the rivers flow

OK back to the topic...

DrPhil 03-28-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2041729)
DrPhil, you must stop channeling/stay out of my iPod! It's really heavy on the Motown right now;every spring I seem to go right to the Temptations/Four Tops/Smokey Robinson/Impressions/Marvin Gaye/Sam Cooke tunes. Takes me to a happy place, instantly. Right now, here's what's on:

I ain't got time to think about money
Or what it can buy
And I ain't got time to sit down and wonder
What makes a birdie fly

And I don't have the time to think about
What makes a flower grow
And I've never given a second thought
To where the rivers flow

OK back to the topic...

You and I are vibing. Meet me in the "what do you feel like saying now" thread. It's Motown day. :)

AlphaFrog 03-28-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaZeta09 (Post 2041723)
I'm not trying to delete my post, I was going to edit it for more details. It sounded rude, and I realize that, I'm sorry. I probably won't bother editing it anymore since I can tell people are upset and it's not gonna matter how I rephrase it. For the 'not women' comment, I dont LITERALLY mean that, I would describe what I mean but no matter how I do it I think it's gonna be attacked which I deserve because it was phrased rudely.

We get that you weren't being literal about the women in your chapter not being women, but probably would have thought better about you and this comment if you DID come from a chapter of cross-dressers. At least they usually show more class than you have.

twinkle555 03-28-2011 03:41 PM

Who else went straight for this thread after reading AlphaFrog's post in the "Is GC a Thing of the Past" thread? ::raises hand::

IndianaSigKap 03-28-2011 05:38 PM

::sheepishly raising hand::

AlphaFrog 04-04-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by twinkle555 (Post 2041754)
Who else went straight for this thread after reading AlphaFrog's post in the "Is GC a Thing of the Past" thread? ::raises hand::

....Ignoring the spammer....


I know I see certain posters talk about a thread or see that certain posters are the last post in a thread (especially on a subject they wouldn't normally comment on) and run straight for them.


MysticCat being the last poster on a thread in the Sorority Recruitment forum, for example.

SydneyK 04-04-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2043507)
I know I see certain posters talk about a thread or see that certain posters are the last post in a thread (especially on a subject they wouldn't normally comment on) and run straight for them.

MysticCat being the last poster on a thread in the Sorority Recruitment forum, for example.

This sounds like an excellent new GC game. Posts/Forum appearances you wouldn't expect from specific GCers.

Not to keep picking on MysticCat, but, for example:
Posted by MysticCat: "Bumping for later! :D:cool:;)" in the DRUNK! thread.

AlphaFrog 04-04-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 2043517)
This sounds like an excellent new GC game. Posts/Forum appearances you wouldn't expect from specific GCers.

Not to keep picking on MysticCat, but, for example:
Posted by MysticCat: "Bumping for later! :D:cool:;)" in the DRUNK! thread.

YES! DO IT!


I would, but starting threads is a pain on the phone.

SydneyK 04-04-2011 10:54 AM

^^ Okie-doke. Done.

adpiucf 04-04-2011 12:43 PM

Drop out. You are a drain on your sorority because you clearly don't like your chapter, and I will guarantee you that you will feel much better after you quit. As far as not being able to take advantage of networking, I call BS. You were a part of the greek system, and you can use that to your advantage for the rest of your life as it suits you. "I was an ABC!" "I was an XYZ!" It won't get you hired, but it makes for conversation.

So quit--- you are worried because you won't belong to an alumnae association or have a daughter who is a legacy when you graduate from college? Newsflash: very few alumnae are involved with their alumnae associations. I'm sure the GC police will step in and tell me they are VERY involved alumnae-- well good for them, but they are the minority.

If you regret it later on life, contact the headquarters to inquire into reinstatement procedures for membership.

Collegians, if you are coming on GC asking us "Should I quit?", the answer is invariably YES.

honeychile 04-04-2011 01:04 PM

*Just trying to picture what the GC Police badge & uniform would look like.*

BraveMaroon 04-04-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 2043549)
*Just trying to picture what the GC Police badge & uniform would look like.*

The badge would almost certainly have an alternating Opal/Diamond option. Now...white or yellow gold?

ASTalumna06 04-04-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2043507)
....Ignoring the spammer....


I know I see certain posters talk about a thread or see that certain posters are the last post in a thread (especially on a subject they wouldn't normally comment on) and run straight for them.


MysticCat being the last poster on a thread in the Sorority Recruitment forum, for example.

I'll be honest... I usually run straight for ANY thread that 33girl is the last to post on. I'm hoping it's a trainwreck and that she'll have posted a ridiculously blunt/sarcastic/entertaining comment. :D


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