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UTlove 03-23-2011 10:31 PM
What can I do now?
 
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IrishLake 03-23-2011 10:45 PM
Don't slack off on your grades! If you're like most seniors, you're getting senioritis and don't want to study any more. That GPA needs to get up a little bit if the "UT" you're talking about refers to Texas.

Do you already have your refs? Or does the 14 refer to 14 people you plan on asking?

thetaj 03-23-2011 10:52 PM
I think she means Tennessee, still very competitive but I don't know a lot about it. Anyone?

Here's all I've got: There are 13 chapters at UT so you'll probably need more reference letters. Bumping up your GPA will help you a lot. Finish strong!

33girl 03-23-2011 11:12 PM
Buy a white dress (pure white, no colored trim) - a simple shift is ideal. Get it from a store with a liberal return policy and leave the tags on it. Then hang it in your closet and forget about it till you're packing for college. :)

BraveMaroon 03-23-2011 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by UTlove (Post 2040700)
Yes, I do mean Tennessee. And unfortunately a 3.09 would be best case scenario :(
Sounds like you've got a good start. Get recs for every sorority. I'll add the standard warning about keeping an open mind. UT has a strong Greek system, and every sorority has something to offer. Don't get caught up in tent talk, trust the process, and enjoy your remaining months in High School.

AnotherKD 03-24-2011 07:36 AM
How is graduating with a 3.09 with honors?

AZTheta 03-24-2011 10:15 AM
^^^jinx, buy me a coke!

IrishLake 03-24-2011 11:51 AM
^ Devils advocate:
I graduated from high school with a 3.3 and was considered "with honors" as well as earning an "award of merit." It could be at the schools discretion. It was based on my courseload, honors/AP classes and some other BS. GPA had nothing to do with it.

DrPhil 03-24-2011 11:55 AM
Having a 3.0 (and above) on a 4.0 scale is good enough to fulfill the scholarship requirement for the National Honor Society, which is still a big deal in some areas. Why wouldn't it be sufficient to be "with honors?"

DrPhil 03-24-2011 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishLake (Post 2040798)
^ Devils advocate:
I graduated from high school with a 3.3 and was considered "with honors" as well as earning an "award of merit." It could be at the schools discretion. It was based on my courseload, honors/AP classes and some other BS. GPA had nothing to do with it.
No need for devil's advocate. :)

Having a 3.3 on a 4.0 scale is "with honors" and not just based on that school's discretion. Honors encompasses scholarship and academics, leadership, and other things. I would never scoff at a high school student having a minimum 3.09 as though that is not a great thing and a big deal. It may not be awesome for NPC recruitment at some schools but "with honors" is not based on NPC recruitment standards.

AnotherKD 03-24-2011 12:00 PM
It's just surprising to me, considering a 3.0 is essentially a B, which I don't necessarily consider to be "with honors". Hell, I graduated with a 3.46 (which still stings a bit, when I think about it) and it wasn't with honors. Granted, that was my college GPA, so it's a bit different.

ETA: I did not scoff. Just asking. I graduated HS with honors, but I remember the GPA had to be over a 3.75 and you had to take a minimum of 1 AP class.

knight_shadow 03-24-2011 12:08 PM
My school had honors weighting, but we only graduated "with honors" if we were members of NHS. We had NHS GPAs running from 3.8 to 5.0, so a 3.09 wouldn't have been a huge deal at my school. I'm sure there's a different method being used at the OP's school.

honeychile 03-24-2011 12:09 PM
Make sure you have pictures for each rec. One photo should be full length, the other, a head shot. They should be natural, nothing glamorous - the idea is that the women in the chapter should be able to quickly recognize you.

DrPhil 03-24-2011 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2040805)
My school had honors weighting, but we only graduated "with honors" if we were members of NHS. We had NHS GPAs running from 3.8 to 5.0, so a 3.09 wouldn't have been a huge deal at my school. I'm sure there's a different method being used at the OP's school.
Your school had a 5.0 scale. Many schools, including mine, had a 4.0 scale.

As with Greek GPA requirements, the actual GPA is weighted based on 4.0 or 5.0 scale.

All of the "with honors" students at my school had a 3.0 and above and were NHS. I had over a 3.0 and was NHS; but a 3.9 isn't automatically better than a 3.0 if the 3.0 student was more active in the school and community.

DrPhil 03-24-2011 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2040802)
It's just surprising to me, considering a 3.0 is essentially a B, which I don't necessarily consider to be "with honors". Hell, I graduated with a 3.46 (which still stings a bit, when I think about it) and it wasn't with honors. Granted, that was my college GPA, so it's a bit different.

ETA: I did not scoff. Just asking. I graduated HS with honors, but I remember the GPA had to be over a 3.75 and you had to take a minimum of 1 AP class.
I'm confused about why you bring up your college GPA.

The tone of your question was borderline rhetorical and essentially saying that you don't consider 3.09 with honors; and how could that be with honors at her school.

knight_shadow 03-24-2011 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2040808)
Your school had a 5.0 scale. Many schools, including mine, had a 4.0 scale.

As with Greek GPA requirements, the actual GPA is weighted based on 4.0 or 5.0 scale.

All of the "with honors" students at my school had a 3.0 and above and were NHS. I had over a 3.0 and was NHS; but a 3.9 isn't automatically better than a 3.0 if the 3.0 student was more active in the school and community.
Internally, we had a 5.0 scale. As far as everyone else was concerned, anyone above a 4.0 was given a 4.0. The transcript just showed that we took AP/Honors courses.

DrPhil 03-24-2011 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2040810)
Internally, we had a 5.0 scale. As far as everyone else was concerned, anyone above a 4.0 was given a 4.0. The transcript just showed that we took AP/Honors courses.
Okay. That is still based on a 5.0 scale.

AnotherKD 03-24-2011 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2040809)
I'm confused about why you bring up your college GPA.

The tone of your question was borderline rhetorical and essentially saying that you don't consider 3.09 with honors; and how could that be with honors at her school.
It WAS borderline rhetorical, but it was still a question. Essentially, me being confused as to how a 3.09 was honors, because in every academic setting I've been in, a 3.09 wouldn't have been close.

DrPhil 03-24-2011 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2040812)
It WAS borderline rhetorical, but it was still a question. Essentially, me being confused as to how a 3.09 was honors, because in every academic setting I've been in, a 3.09 wouldn't have been close.
:) And at my high school academic setting, and others I'm familiar with, it would've been "with honors." Don't scoff at that, though.

Anyway, back to the sorority recruitment part of the question.

AnotherKD 03-24-2011 12:31 PM
@DrPhil, if I was scoffing, you'd know it.

But sure, back to the OP.

DrPhil 03-24-2011 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2040814)
@DrPhil, if I was scoffing, you'd know it.
I did know it. That's why I said it. Duh.

AZTheta 03-24-2011 12:43 PM
This: I will remember, in the future, to clarify or level the playing field when entering a discussion. Honestly had no idea there was such a discrepancy in eligibility requirements or definition of "with honors." My bad for not asking for a clarification. Fell into the old trap of only applying my own knowledge to a situation, without investigating.

Am still curious as to the honors distinction, based on GPA, but bottom line: the OP is getting good advice on how to prepare for upcoming recruitment, so back to the original topic I will go. I posted in another thread the ilnk to the sticky on sorority recruitment; it's one of the top posts if the OP will go to that section of GC. Hope that contributes to her question.

AnotherKD 03-24-2011 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2040816)
This: I will remember, in the future, to clarify or level the playing field when entering a discussion. Honestly had no idea there was such a discrepancy in eligibility requirements or definition of "with honors." My bad for not asking for a clarification. Fell into the old trap of only applying my own knowledge to a situation, without investigating.

Am still curious as to the honors distinction, based on GPA, but bottom line: the OP is getting good advice on how to prepare for upcoming recruitment, so back to the original topic I will go. I posted in another thread the ilnk to the sticky on sorority recruitment; it's one of the top posts if the OP will go to that section of GC. Hope that contributes to her question.
Ditto to the first paragraph. I thought that writing what I had experienced would show other posters where my view was coming from. I guess that doesn't fly.

DrPhil 03-24-2011 01:25 PM
As with many topics, it doesn't fly if showing where your view is coming from is followed by dismissing other views as invalid or nonexistent.

AnotherKD 03-24-2011 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2040825)
As with many topics, it doesn't fly if showing where your view is coming from is followed by dismissing other views as invalid or nonexistent.
When did I ever do that? Never did I say that anyone else's experiences were invalid, and if you thought that is what I meant, then you were way off.

FleurGirl 03-24-2011 07:03 PM
Right now is probably a good time to start looking for people to write you recs! Use all your contacts and ask around to see if anyone you know is a sorority member from one of the sororities on your campus. If you can't find one for a specific chapter, you should start looking for a local Panhellenic organization to try and get recs. They don't need to be sent out any time too soon, but looking for people to write them will save you a lot of scrambling at the end. :)

UTlove 03-24-2011 10:23 PM
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DrPhil 03-24-2011 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by UTlove (Post 2040920)
Wow, I really didn't expect all of the backlash about the graduating with honors - I'm sorry, I guess I should have clarified. At my school, we are on a 4.0 scale and graduating with honors is determined by the number of honors courses you have taken. Maybe not as prestigious as what another school's system may be, but oh well! I spoke with my guidance counselor and there is a possibility I could graduate with higher than a 3.09, so I will really have to end on a high note. Sorry for all the confusion.
Don't interpret the discussion as backlash and it wasn't against you. You did nothing wrong. Good luck to you. :)


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