Joining a fraternity
 

I want to pledge a fraternity. And I've rushed already as a freshman. Only a little first semester but I found a fraternity I'd like to pledge the second semester I rushed. But I have a problem with the whole Greek process. I don't like the traditional Greek wear. The short golf shorts, the short sleeve polos. I liked the people in the fraternity I got a bid for, and they seem to really want me to pledge, but in addition to Ralph Lauren, Jack Wills, Lacoste, and Vineyard Vines I like to wear Pacsun and American Apparel also. I just don't understand the big deal of having a variety of clothing I can wear. I don't see why it's a rule I have to wear the short shorts and a polo all the time. I guess I'm asking if it's such a big deal about the clothing. I thought a fraternity was about meeting more people and expanding your network and making new friends. Not "What to Wear 101". I'm not looking to make anyone mad. Just looking for an input. Thanks a lot I appreciate it.

When you're pledging, some fraternities do require pledges to wear certain clothing because you're not allowed to wear your pledge pin with things that are considered too casual. When you're pledging, you have to wear your pledge pin the majority of the time. Proper attire with the badge is something initiated members have to adhere to as well.

If you're not talking about that - if you just mean that people get on your case - that's only a "rule" at certain schools. If you don't like the fact that they're outright telling you what to wear and you don't understand their distaste for the other stuff (although I totally agree on American Apparel), there are probably going to be other things about the brothers/fraternity that bug you as well.

QFP

When I say that, I mean a hoodie, jeans, and a flat bill. Or an occasional graphic tee with something funny as shit on it. Nothing that an emo or fag would wear.

http://shop.pacsun.com/Guys/tees/Dia...-Tee/index.pro
http://shop.pacsun.com/Guys/tees/Dea...-Tee/index.pro
http://shop.pacsun.com/Guys/tees/Mon...-Tee/index.pro

Stuff like that. Nothing too out there. I'm just curious if I can wear that sort of stuff after pledgeship when I become a brother. I mean I wear Ralph Lauren, Lacoste, Vineyard Vines, etc like I said. I just wanted to know if this was also acceptable. I go to a Southern school if that matters.

Calling troll now. Think about this logically, if you pledge in the second semester, you're not wearing shorts of any kind, much less short shorts until months into your pledge process.

Ergo, troll. (And also the homophobic slurs)
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/5267/2w4b5zp.gif

Even down in the South? And I love that gif.

I don't even understand what this guy is saying? Why would he have to wear shorts or have to wear his pin a "majority of the time"

I might give you March, but most of my Southern friends are wimps about the cold, so yeah. Either way, not buying it.

So about the examples I gave lol?

How about troll elsewhere.

lol I'm still curious about my question. I've never heard about pins being worn a majority of the time or different types of shorts hahaha

Why would I be trolling. I'm asking if it's ok to wear tees like that in a fraternity. I got a bid last semester but couldn't rush because of family issues and money issues. But I will be next semester which would be the fall.

When I was a pledge we had to wear our pin everyday except for the 4 S's.

wow

That's how it was for me as well. Every fraternity on campus required it too.

I'm missing an S, or possibly two if defecation isn't included.

Sex Sweating Showering Sleeping is how it was said when I pledged.

haha I'm glad I didn't have to go through that

The 4S's applied to me as well, and I was actually one of the co-founders of my chapter. The entire class just did it after some consultation with alumni in the area. Though, sometimes, we wear the pins with t-shirts.

There may be certain standards of dress that may be expected of you, and while it may feel weird to begin with, you'll eventually get used to it. If you wear clothes nice enough for the pin, you'll look sharper / more grown up.

I highly suggest talking to the people who offered you a bid about the clothing question. Just casually bring it up and see what they say.

Count me in on the 4S rule, too (though it was a while back for me). I know there's been a discussion about it before -- it's very common as I recall.

Those shirts are fugly and unacceptable for anyone over the age of 14 and I also call troll. No one would wear Lacoste or VV one day and a "diamond heist" T-shit the next. It's like going from wearing Brooks Brothers to Hot Topic.

- only hipsters and gays wear American Apparel and you sure ain't a hipster.

--ditto on the 4 S rule for my chapter as well.

Agreed. There are some things at PacSun you can sneak through the SEC with but those aren't it.

On another note: http://shop.pacsun.com/Guys/shirts/H...hirt/index.pro Really???? I think my dad had this shirt, or maybe it was Lennie on Law & Order. I'm assuming these are fitted and you wear them tails out?

I always thought it was near-universal except for the groups who revamped their 'pledging' (LXA, for example) since wearing the pin at all times can be considered 'hazing' :rolleyes:

Stop.

I think you may be right. It's actually in our General Regulations that "[t]he probationary member pin shall be worn at all reasonable times (i.e. probationary members shall not be required to wear the pin during sleep, at times when it could cause injury, etc.)."

During my 4 years in school, I don't think I ever saw a guy wearing a pledge pin around campus. And I can assure you that the majority of groups don't have a revamped pledge process. Maybe the campus culture has something to do with it?

At least with Psi U, we wear it on the innermost layer, so you usually wouldn't see it.

Not being snarky, but maybe you just didn't notice it. Sigma Chi pledges always had to wear their pledge pin. Although, pledge pins can only be worn with a collared shirt (so, Polo type is ok). No t-shirts and pledge pins together.

I don't think its hazing, i just think its fucking retarded to think that wearing a pin 24/7 is a sign of you being a worthy aspirant to come into our bond.

what happens if you don't wear it? They drop you? Its stupid haha

That makes sense!

This is a very definite possibility, lol

My fiance's good friend lived with a Sigma Chi and I remember that he ate dinner with all of us a few times during our freshmen year. I don't ever recall seeing a pledge pin. But as you mentioned, maybe I just didn't notice.

But that brings up a question--so if you HAD to wear your pledge pin everywhere during pledging...and you HAD to wear a collared shirt with your pin...did that mean that you HAD to wear a collared shirt everywhere?

And come to think of it, I never saw my fiance wear a pledge pin either...and I saw him quite often when he was pledging. From what I understand, his chapter was pretty traditional.

Who said that was the reason for doing it?

But since you think it's stupid, I'm glad for you that you joined a group that doesn't do it. Meanwhile, those of us who do require it will give your opinion the due it's worth -- none.

Thats awesome. I chose Lambda Chi for a few of the reasons in the pledge process but mostly others.

I also apologize for assuming, but I just didn't see another reason to wear a pin 24/7 haha

Excuse me?

I agree

Since you seem to need to spelled out:
Stop saying that gay people wear specific types of clothing AND using gay as a veiled insult at the same time.

In this part of your quasi-sentence you stereotyped.
And in this one, you called the OP gay, and it wasn't a statement of fact or a compliment, it was an insult.

Stop.

You are f'ing killing me, I swear you try to get offended by certain posters, don't you? That was tongue-in-cheek and directed to a poster who says he doesn't dress like a fag.

AA has also done a lot to support/cater to the gay community so I found it quite amusing to read that he wears AA but doesn't dress like a FAG.

http://americanapparel.net/legalizegay/

He's a troll, you actually post here. Don't get pissy because you got called on it.

But the big boss sexually harassing female employees is okay though?