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x_meowness_x 02-16-2011 03:58 AM

Am I too old too rush?
 
Hi,
I'm 22 years and currently a 4th year student at Cal Poly Pomona in Pomona, California. I've always dreamed of being in a sorority.
My first year, I missed recruitment because I found out about it too late.
My second year, I went through half of recruitment and had to drop out because of personal issues.
My third year I was going through some family issues and wasn't able to be involved in school & this year, my fourth year I was below the gpa requirement by .1

I have brought my grades up and I really want to try again. I am going to be a 5th year next year (senior standing) because it's hard to get classes in my major. I am going to be in school for at least another year.

I think I have a lot to offer and I will feel like I'll regret it if I didn't just try. I was just wondering if you think I am too old though and If I'll look bad or something.. Let me know your opinions

Thanks

KSUViolet06 02-16-2011 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by x_meowness_x (Post 2030830)
Hi,
I'm 22 years and currently a 4th year student at Cal Poly Pomona in Pomona, California. I've always dreamed of being in a sorority.
My first year, I missed recruitment because I found out about it too late.
My second year, I went through half of recruitment and had to drop out because of personal issues.
My third year I was going through some family issues and wasn't able to be involved in school & this year, my fourth year I was below the gpa requirement by .1

I have brought my grades up and I really want to try again. I am going to be a 5th year next year (senior standing) because it's hard to get classes in my major. I am going to be in school for at least another year.

I think I have a lot to offer and I will feel like I'll regret it if I didn't just try. I was just wondering if you think I am too old though and If I'll look bad or something.. Let me know your opinions

Thanks

Meh. By all means go through again if you feel like you'd regret not doing so.

However, understand that it probably doesn't look super great to chapters that you have waited this long, failed to have the GPA as a college senior (which is probably not an unbelievably high requirement), etc.

Also, sorority members may wonder what you can contribute if you're only going to be active for a year (as opposed to a freshman or sophomore.)

Or how one could "always want to be in a sorority" yet have a different excuse/reason for not rushing for every year of school.

This sounds harsh, but I'd imagine that sorority members will consider all of these factors. Just being honest.

Good luck to you.

excelblue 02-16-2011 06:14 AM

I just read this, and my first thought was: wow, you do have quite a lot of issues.

I'm a guy, so this may not be accurate, but I'd imagine that if I was in a sorority and deciding on whether or not you should be a member, this may be harsh, but my main concern would be that you aren't strong enough in overcoming issues to be a reliable member.

I can understand it if it's a one-year thing, but if it happens multiple years and you have issues with your GPA, that brings up a certain question.

princessamy 02-16-2011 10:31 AM

Like everyone else said, all of your excuses don't look good on your behalf. did you even try to see if any of the sororities were doing C.O.B. when you were younger?

AZTheta 02-16-2011 10:40 AM

You wrote that you feel you'll regret it if you don't try. So, if you can handle the possible rejection you may receive, then by all means try recruitment. We can't say much else.

There are four NPC chapters at Cal Poly-Pomona and I have no idea how competitive recruitment is at your school. Good luck.

Shellfish 02-16-2011 10:52 AM

This reminds me of the haiku thread:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...t=haiku&page=5

Psi U MC Vito 02-16-2011 02:28 PM

Am I the only person who finds it strange that the OP claims to have always wanted to be in a sorority but didn't find out about recruitment until it was too late? Seems to me that is something you would try really hard to find out if you really cared.

MysticCat 02-16-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2030929)
Am I the only person who finds it strange that the OP claims to have always wanted to be in a sorority but didn't find out about recruitment until it was too late?

No, you're not.

victoriana 02-16-2011 03:48 PM

I have a few friends in Greek life at Cal Poly, and from what I know of it, it's pretty "young," meaning that it's generally full of 18-22 year olds who are traditional students.

Regina.George 02-16-2011 07:11 PM

There you all go again. Crushing dreams!

Chicago88 02-16-2011 07:59 PM

I'm not sure how to word this, but can someone explain how sororities prefer a younger pledge class over a 2 year transfer student? Maybe not prefer over but why is it harder to join a sorority when the woman is a little older? I can understand the idea that the older pledges may not want to have someone younger in charge or something like that but not being part of Greek life Ive always wondered this. Thanks ladies!

Also, what does it mean to associate with a chapter? I have read it on multiple posts here.

KSUViolet06 02-16-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031028)
I'm not sure how to word this, but can someone explain how sororities prefer a younger pledge class over a 2 year transfer student? Maybe not prefer over but why is it harder to join a sorority when the woman is a little older? I can understand the idea that the older pledges may not want to have someone younger in charge or something like that but not being part of Greek life Ive always wondered this. Thanks ladies!

Generally speaking, the rationale is that the freshman/sophomore will be active for 3 or 4 years, whereas the junior or senior = 2 or fewer. More years of activity = prefereable.

However, it really does depend on the school. There are schools where pledge classes have upperclassmen in them all the time. Then there are others where you will have a hard time getting a bid if you're not a freshman.

Senior year is generally considered to be pushing it, though, if you're at a school with a very traditional Greek system (where NM = 18 year old freshman.)


Regina.George 02-16-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031028)
I'm not sure how to word this, but can someone explain how sororities prefer a younger pledge class over a 2 year transfer student? Maybe not prefer over but why is it harder to join a sorority when the woman is a little older? I can understand the idea that the older pledges may not want to have someone younger in charge or something like that but not being part of Greek life Ive always wondered this. Thanks ladies!

Also, what does it mean to associate with a chapter? I have read it on multiple posts here.

That involves membership selection and is none of your business. These things are completely out of your control as an older transfer student.

33girl 02-16-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031028)
I'm not sure how to word this, but can someone explain how sororities prefer a younger pledge class over a 2 year transfer student?

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And it's not the sororities themselves, it's an antiquated structure on the part of NPC, from the day and age where they had to pledge women quickly, because half of them would drop out by their junior year. Maybe one of these days, NPC will take a bold step into the 1980s.

KSUViolet06 02-16-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2031032)
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This, too.

Freshmen = 4 years of dues as well as that person filling a spot in sorority housing at some point (if the school has that.) Whereas, Suzy Senior is only going to pay one year of dues and is probably not going to get a chance to live in.

Chicago88 02-16-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Regina.George (Post 2031030)
That involves membership selection and is none of your business. These things are completely out of your control as an older transfer student.

Sure, I might be an older transfer student but Im not 100 percent gung-ho on Greek life for myself and as of right now I'm leaning towards a student service organization for myself instead. Excuse me for asking a question. People come here to get information, not unncessary commentary. I am completely aware of the control factor from previous threads, thank you for the reminder.

Thanks ladies for the responses. It makes sense now.

U Go Glen Coco! 02-16-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031041)
Sure, I might be an older transfer student but Im not 100 percent gung-ho on Greek life for myself and as of right now I'm leaning towards a student service organization for myself instead.

HALLELUJAH.

Regina.George 02-16-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031041)
Sure, I might be an older transfer student but Im not 100 percent gung-ho on Greek life for myself and as of right now I'm leaning towards a student service organization for myself instead. Excuse me for asking a question. People come here to get information, not unncessary and bitchy comments.

Thanks ladies for the responses.

For someone "not so gung ho on Greek life" you sure spend a lot of time here and ask too many questions that require more details than a normal pnm. I don't believe for a minute you're a possible pnm. ARITY?

Chicago88 02-16-2011 08:46 PM

Unfortunately, I'm not here to prove anything to anyone. Sorry. I come here to get information because yes I am going to be a bit older than the prime PNM (I'm sure you can find my age somewhere, you're good creeping on other posts of mine) so I get answers to my questions here to weigh my options. I don't know why I'm wasting my time explaining to you why I frequent a PUBLIC WEBSITE. You're right, I'm not a possible pnm yet. I just like to know my options because a GLO or a Student Service Org is a big commitment either way and I want to make sure one is right for me. So sue me.

Regina.George 02-16-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031044)
Unfortunately, I'm not here to prove anything to anyone. Sorry. I come here to get information because yes I am going to be a bit older than the prime PNM (I'm sure you can find my age somewhere, you're good creeping on other posts of mine) so I get answers to my questions here to weigh my options. I don't know why I'm wasting my time explaining to you why I frequent a PUBLIC WEBSITE. You're right, I'm not a possible pnm yet. I just like to know my options because a GLO or a Student Service Org is a big commitment either way and I want to make sure one is right for me. So sue me.

By student body percentage, you attend one of the most Greek schools in the US. You can't turn your head at TCU without seeing a sorority girl. Yet you spend your time here "researching" instead of actually getting out there and meeting the people who could be of assistance. I don't buy it.

Regina.George 02-16-2011 09:00 PM

And no one is creeping your threads, honey. You're simply ubiquitous and unavoidable.

Chicago88 02-16-2011 09:08 PM

Sigh.:rolleyes:

KKGCaroline 02-16-2011 09:36 PM

Waaa Waaa Waaa

violetpretty 02-16-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2031032)
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Kind of. If a chapter is always at total, they're collecting the maximum amount of dues they can each semester. That said, upperclassmen have to be replaced sooner. Also, ideally the class sizes would be pretty even, so that there's not a big hole in membership when a big senior class graduates.

knight_shadow 02-17-2011 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Regina.George (Post 2031030)
That involves membership selection and is none of your business. These things are completely out of your control as an older transfer student.

WTF?

I'm not NPC, but this question has been answered multiple times on GC (including in this thread). Didn't seem out of line at all.

Regina.George 02-17-2011 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2031128)
WTF?

I'm not NPC, but this question has been answered multiple times on GC (including in this thread). Didn't seem out of line at all.

1. The overly inquisitive way and history of the person who asked
2. I know the reasons stated are not the only ones from just my personal experience. No one can speak for every NPC organization and every chapter of every organization's membership selection process.

adpiucf 02-17-2011 02:11 AM

I don't think you have much of a shot, unless you have some very close friends in the sororities.

Chicago88 02-17-2011 04:39 PM

http://graphicslovex.files.wordpress...ljr1qzzy73.gif

Overly inquisitive and my "history"? Someone please remind me the purpose of this website again..
PS for my history record, I have never attended TCU, I applied to multiple schools and I will be attending Texas Tech in the fall.

AlphaFrog 02-17-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 2031063)
Kind of. If a chapter is always at total, they're collecting the maximum amount of dues they can each semester. That said, upperclassmen have to be replaced sooner. Also, ideally the class sizes would be pretty even, so that there's not a big hole in membership when a big senior class graduates.

Exactly. My chapter graduated 35 seniors in one semester on a campus where total was around 80. That was the begining of the end of my chapter. It's hard to come back from literally losing about half your chapter, especially when you were one of those chapters who in the past didn't have to worry about recruiting, so no one knew how.

MysticCat 02-17-2011 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2031032)
. . . it's an antiquated structure on the part of NPC, from the day and age where they had to pledge women quickly, because half of them would drop out by their junior year..

Or as women they couldn't transfer in until junior year.

Regina.George 02-18-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031279)
PS for my history record, I have never attended TCU, I applied to multiple schools and I will be attending Texas Tech in the fall.

Thanks for the update, S! My sisters and friends will be waiting!

NutBrnHair 02-18-2011 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2031032)

And it's not the sororities themselves, it's an antiquated structure on the part of NPC, from the day and age where they had to pledge women quickly, because half of them would drop out by their junior year. Maybe one of these days, NPC will take a bold step into the 1980s.

That structure has worked pretty darn well for some of us.

Chicago88 02-18-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina.George (Post 2031507)
Thanks for the update, S! My sisters and friends will be waiting!

Cant wait!! Since I'm not going through recruitment, you dont have to do any sabotaging of anyones (my) recruitment, although I am sure you would enjoy it. Thanks for the advice though, you made me realize Greek life is not for me.

Barbie's_Rush 02-18-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031544)
Cant wait!! Since I'm not going through recruitment, you dont have to do any sabotaging of anyones (my) recruitment, although I am sure you would enjoy it. Thanks for the advice though, you made me realize Greek life is not for me.

I get the impression you're the kind of person who wouldn't need to be sabotaged.

Chicago88 02-18-2011 02:14 PM

At this point probably not.

AnotherKD 02-18-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88 (Post 2031569)
At this point probably not.

I think a Boeing 747 just went over her head.

indygphib 02-18-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2031570)
I think a Boeing 747 just went between her ears.

Fixed that for you...

33girl 02-21-2011 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2031513)
That structure has worked pretty darn well for some of us.

"Some of us"? Are you saying Chi Omega advocates pledging only freshmen and sophomores and above should just not bother rushing any of its chapters? That seems like a pretty big statement. Oh well, I'm sure there are lots of upperclass women who will be glad to have that cleared up so they don't waste their time looking at Chi Omega.

Attn DeltaBetaBaby: Beetlejuice.

KSUViolet06 02-21-2011 12:42 AM

I don't think that's what's being said. I think she meant that the recruitment structure that NPC uses works well for some of us.

I doubt the above is true re: Chi Omega because the chapter at my alma mater typically pledges a mix of class standings (like we all do.)

33girl 02-21-2011 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2032082)
I don't think that's what's being said. I think she meant that the recruitment structure that NPC uses works well for some of us.

I doubt the above is true re: Chi Omega because the chapter at my alma mater typically pledges a mix of class standings (like we all do.)

My point is that "some of us" should be defined. Sorority? Chapter? School? What? Taking it upon yourself to speak for an entire group and being ambiguous about exactly which group you mean is unwise.


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