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vicplemm 01-19-2011 12:02 PM

I NEED ADVICE!! PLEASE!!!
 
I go to a small school and there are only 5 sororities. DZ, KD, DG, Theta Phi, and Phi Sig. I did fall recruitment and ended up leaving early because i felt really pressured and unsure of what i wanted. plus i had my heart set on one sorority i didnt get an invite to the next round from. I had my heart set on that one and wasn't ready to make a decision about a sorority i wasnt even considering. With all that being said, i really wish i had taken a bid from the other sorority. This campus is very greek oriented. everyone is greek. I want to make more friends and it seems the only answer is greek. Only two sororities are doing spring recruitment and i'm not sure if i'd be happy at either of them. The girls were nice but idk how much we actually had in common. Should i wait til fall again and try for the sororities i wanted or settle for one of the other two? I'm not a snob i just want to make sure i'm happy. Also I think a big factor in not getting my invite for the next round was my GPA in high school. I was really sick my senior year and had to school from the hospital most of the year. This year so far I have a 3.933. When checking GPA during recruitment as a sophomore, do they check high school or just college? if its just college i feel like i would do much better. I know this a lot of random info i just really need help. spring recruitment for one of the sororities i didnt absolutlely love is tonight and i cant decide if i should go. :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Thanks!!!

ree-Xi 01-19-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vicplemm (Post 2021866)
I go to a small school and there are only 5 sororities. DZ, KD, DG, Theta Phi, and Phi Sig. I did fall recruitment and ended up leaving early because i felt really pressured and unsure of what i wanted. plus i had my heart set on one sorority i didnt get an invite to the next round from. I had my heart set on that one and wasn't ready to make a decision about a sorority i wasnt even considering. With all that being said, i really wish i had taken a bid from the other sorority. This campus is very greek oriented. everyone is greek. I want to make more friends and it seems the only answer is greek. Only two sororities are doing spring recruitment and i'm not sure if i'd be happy at either of them. The girls were nice but idk how much we actually had in common. Should i wait til fall again and try for the sororities i wanted or settle for one of the other two? I'm not a snob i just want to make sure i'm happy. Also I think a big factor in not getting my invite for the next round was my GPA in high school. I was really sick my senior year and had to school from the hospital most of the year. This year so far I have a 3.933. When checking GPA during recruitment as a sophomore, do they check high school or just college? if its just college i feel like i would do much better. I know this a lot of random info i just really need help. spring recruitment for one of the sororities i didnt absolutlely love is tonight and i cant decide if i should go. :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Thanks!!!

So is it because you were sick last year, or because your GPA sucked, or because your favorite dropped you and you didn't like who still wanted you back, or what?

Did you actually get a bid from the sorority?

Which round did you drop out from?

What was your HS GPA?

How did you know that you absolutely loved one sorority if you didn't give the others a chance? You said that you weren't even considering the other sororities. Why not? That is the purpose of recruitment - to CONSIDER ALL CHAPTERS PARTICIPATING.

Yes, do you come off like a snob, because you wouldn't give everyone an equal chance. What is different this time around (other than your GPA) that you think that going through recruitment again will earn you a bid to your "favorite" sorority?

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2021870)
So is it because you were sick last year, or because your GPA sucked, or because your favorite dropped you and you didn't like who still wanted you back, or what?

Did you actually get a bid from the sorority?

Which round did you drop out from?

What was your HS GPA?

How did you know that you absolutely loved one sorority if you didn't give the others a chance? You said that you weren't even considering the other sororities. Why not? That is the purpose of recruitment - to CONSIDER ALL CHAPTERS PARTICIPATING.

Yes, do you come off like a snob, because you wouldn't give everyone an equal chance. What is different this time around (other than your GPA) that you think that going through recruitment again will earn you a bid to your "favorite" sorority?

I can understand not being open to all chapters at a school, I only wanted to join the best chapter at my school and if I didn't I knew I didn't want to go Greek. I think that's part of the problem a lot of people have, if they don't get a bid from the top chapter they aren't willing to not go Greek at all

vicplemm 01-19-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2021870)
So is it because you were sick last year, or because your GPA sucked, or because your favorite dropped you and you didn't like who still wanted you back, or what?

Did you actually get a bid from the sorority?

Which round did you drop out from?

What was your HS GPA?

How did you know that you absolutely loved one sorority if you didn't give the others a chance? You said that you weren't even considering the other sororities. Why not? That is the purpose of recruitment - to CONSIDER ALL CHAPTERS PARTICIPATING.

Yes, do you come off like a snob, because you wouldn't give everyone an equal chance. What is different this time around (other than your GPA) that you think that going through recruitment again will earn you a bid to your "favorite" sorority?

its not that i didnt consider every chapter. that was poor word choice. i considered every chapter when i got there, but after spending 3 nights with every chapter it was clear to me that two of them were a good fit for me. i felt uncomfortable in the other chapters and the conversations were awkward. i got along instantly in two of the other chapters. and i left on pref night. and my HS GPA was 3.3. And no offense, but you are a bit judgmental for someone calling me a snob. Take your own advice and give everyone a chance.

agzg 01-19-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021876)
I can understand not being open to all chapters at a school, I only wanted to join the best chapter at my school and if I didn't I knew I didn't want to go Greek. I think that's part of the problem a lot of people have, if they don't get a bid from the top chapter they aren't willing to not go Greek at all

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that LXA mandated sex change operations and have fully switched to the NPC.

Translation: Stay in your lane, jackwagon.

ree-Xi 01-19-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021876)
I can understand not being open to all chapters at a school, I only wanted to join the best chapter at my school and if I didn't I knew I didn't want to go Greek. I think that's part of the problem a lot of people have, if they don't get a bid from the top chapter they aren't willing to not go Greek at all

This isn't how NPC formal recruitment works. Step away from the thread.

vicplemm 01-19-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021876)
I can understand not being open to all chapters at a school, I only wanted to join the best chapter at my school and if I didn't I knew I didn't want to go Greek. I think that's part of the problem a lot of people have, if they don't get a bid from the top chapter they aren't willing to not go Greek at all

im willing to go to any sorority right now i just dont want to get stuck just because i want to be greek. when i could wait til next year and have more options.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 12:27 PM

Its a sentiment that applies to everyone regardless of gender. If you want to be in "the best" GLO you need to be willing to not go Greek if you don't get a bid to that GLO. I'm not willing to step down if I don't get my top choice, I'd rather not go Greek.

So OP, if you think you're going to have a better fit in the fall I'd rush fall since you have more options

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2021882)
This isn't how NPC formal recruitment works. Step away from the thread.

If I was cut from my top choice, I'd drop out of recruitment. When i had to list my top choices, I would only list one choice. The concept applies

knight_shadow 01-19-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021886)
Its a sentiment that applies to everyone regardless of gender. If you want to be in "the best" GLO you need to be willing to not go Greek if you don't get a bid to that GLO. I'm not willing to step down if I don't get my top choice, I'd rather not go Greek.

So OP, if you think you're going to have a better fit in the fall I'd rush fall since you have more options

Dude, shut the hell up.

As the previous posters said -- this is not how NPC recruitment works.

And a sophomore at a highly competitive school does not have more options.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vicplemm (Post 2021883)
im willing to go to any sorority right now i just dont want to get stuck just because i want to be greek. when i could wait til next year and have more options.

Thats awesome! :) Its really great you're open to everything, so it seems that fall recruitment is better. I assume formal is in the fall? and its just COB/informal in the spring?

Best of luck! If you keep those grades I'm sure you'll have a lot more options

agzg 01-19-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021886)
Its a sentiment that applies to everyone regardless of gender. If you want to be in "the best" GLO you need to be willing to not go Greek if you don't get a bid to that GLO. I'm not willing to step down if I don't get my top choice, I'd rather not go Greek.

So OP, if you think you're going to have a better fit in the fall I'd rush fall since you have more options

No, it really doesn't. Depending on how competitive this school is, a sophmore may not have more options.

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021888)
If I was cut from my top choice, I'd drop out of recruitment. When i had to list my top choices, I would only list one choice. The concept applies

No, it really doesn't. How do I say this gently? Shut up or die in a fire.

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021891)
Thats awesome! :) Its really great you're open to everything, so it seems that fall recruitment is better. I assume formal is in the fall? and its just COB/informal in the spring?

Best of luck! If you keep those grades I'm sure you'll have a lot more options

Stop giving advice on NPC recruitment, dude. I mean, seriously. You have absolutely no concept of how it even works.

I swear to God - there should be a test. "Explain how RFM works without copy/pasting someone else's response prior to giving out formal recruitment advice for NPC chapters" should work.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 12:33 PM

Please read what I write fully. I'm not talking about the ins and outs of recruitment. I'm just saying that if I was cut from my top choice, I would drop out of formal recruitment. I'd rather not be Greek than be in a lower chapter.

The chapter I want or GDI. If I can't be there, I'll drop out of recruitment. There's nothing wrong with that

agzg 01-19-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021895)
Please read what I write fully. I'm not talking about the ins and outs of recruitment. I'm just saying that if I was cut from my top choice, I would drop out of formal recruitment. I'd rather not be Greek than be in a lower chapter.

The chapter I want or GDI. If I can't be there, I'll drop out of recruitment. There's nothing wrong with that

There's a lot wrong with it, actually. If you don't understand the ins and outs, you're not qualified to give any advice, no matter how general.

Although, I don't know why I'm wasting my time explaining this to you because you've been told before. It's becoming increasingly obvious to me that a requirement for your membership was some sort of frontal lobotomy.

MysticCat 01-19-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021888)
If I was cut from my top choice, I'd drop out of recruitment. When i had to list my top choices, I would only list one choice. The concept applies

I think 408/Phi_Delta is back with more wisdom.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 12:37 PM

I can only give quality advice about formal recruitment at my school. Here there are 4 chapters and 2 rounds of cuts and quota is 25

Alumiyum 01-19-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021895)
Please read what I write fully. I'm not talking about the ins and outs of recruitment. I'm just saying that if I was cut from my top choice, I would drop out of formal recruitment. I'd rather not be Greek than be in a lower chapter.

The chapter I want or GDI. If I can't be there, I'll drop out of recruitment. There's nothing wrong with that

Your choices are your own, but advocating it for PNMs in NPC recruitment, especially when it's something you know nothing about, is bad form.

Not to mention "top chapter" is relative. And "top chapter"(s) don't stay that way forever.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2021903)
Your choices are your own, but advocating it for PNMs in NPC recruitment, especially when it's something you know nothing about, is bad form.

Not to mention "top chapter" is relative. And "top chapter"(s) don't stay that way forever.

I understand that that is was a faux pas and I regret bridging the topic. I started by saying that I can understand someone only wanting to join the top chapter at a specific school.

agzg 01-19-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021901)
I can only give quality advice about formal fraternityrecruitment at my fake school. Here there are 4 chapters and 2 rounds of cuts and quota is 25

FYP because you're obviously trollin' pretty hard.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2021906)
FYP because you're obviously trollin' pretty hard.

LOL ok

AZTheta 01-19-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vicplemm (Post 2021880)
its not that i didnt consider every chapter. that was poor word choice. i considered every chapter when i got there, but after spending 3 nights with every chapter it was clear to me that two of them were a good fit for me. i felt uncomfortable in the other chapters and the conversations were awkward. i got along instantly in two of the other chapters. and i left on pref night. and my HS GPA was 3.3. And no offense, but you are a bit judgmental for someone calling me a snob. Take your own advice and give everyone a chance.

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Originally Posted by vicplemm (Post 2021883)
im willing to go to any sorority right now i just dont want to get stuck just because i want to be greek. when i could wait til next year and have more options.

Ignoring the derailment by the troll and replying to the OP:

First consider that you are writing on an Internet Board where the majority of posters are already in GLOs. We have been through both sides of recruitment and we come from diverse collegiate experiences. Think before you hit send. I agree with ree - you came across as a snob and no amount of back-pedaling can change the fact that for most people "perception is reality." The Internet doesn't give second chances.

Second, you are contradicting yourself. What exactly do you mean? Your responses strike me as equivocating.

SMTTT 01-19-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2021900)
I think 408/Phi_Delta is back with more wisdom.

My thoughts exactly.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 01:19 PM

:/ not sure what that means but whatever

33girl 01-19-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021876)
I can understand not being open to all chapters at a school, I only wanted to join the best chapter at my school and if I didn't I knew I didn't want to go Greek. I think that's part of the problem a lot of people have, if they don't get a bid from the top chapter they aren't willing to not go Greek at all

You have a penis. Stay in your lane. The end.

AnotherKD 01-19-2011 02:03 PM

I love how there are always OPs that come online, beg for help and advice, and then when they don't get the response that they want, they say that GC is full of judgemental and rude people.

OP, these ladies and gentlemen (Ok, 99% of these ladies and gentlemen) know what they're talking about. You're not the first one to have issues like these. They won't blow sunshine up your hoo-ha, but they will be honest with you. So why don't you step back, take a deep breath, and try again. Maybe if you explain your situation a bit better and don't get snippy, these lovely ladies can help you better.

:)

33girl 01-19-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 2021960)
I think you go to Fictional U.

No, I know what university this is. It's real.

To the OP: as far as joining a sorority right now, no group wants a member who rejected them before, and now wants to be a part of them just to be Greek. Think about how you would feel if a guy asked out every girl in school to the prom, they all said no, he went to another school and asked all those girls, they said no, then asked his cousin and she was busy...THEN he asked you. That's basically what you're doing if you take a bid now.

Take a semester and get to know women in ALL the sororities outside of rush and go through formal rush again next fall. You are really not a good candidate for membership right now.

xomanadaxo 01-19-2011 02:09 PM

For once, I actually knew what university this was, too. OP, stop posting personal info on the internet. It's not hard to figure out who you are from this info.

Drolefille 01-19-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2021900)
I think 408/Phi_Delta is back with more wisdom.

Just want to say I called it a while ago. Can't wait for the 'lol just trollin' guyz'

ASTalumna06 01-19-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2021895)
Please read what I write fully. I'm not talking about the ins and outs of recruitment. I'm just saying that if I was cut from my top choice, I would drop out of formal recruitment. I'd rather not be Greek than be in a lower chapter.

If potential sorority members, especially at larger, competitive schools dropped out of recruitment if they didn't get their #1 choice, there would probably only be 1 or 2 chapters at these schools.. if that.

If you randomly polled 100 sorority women on this site, I'm willing to bet at least half of them didn't end up at their first choice (or in the chapter that for the majority of recruitment they thought was THE BEST EVER).

It's. not. the. same.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2022156)
If potential sorority members, especially at larger, competitive schools dropped out of recruitment if they didn't get their #1 choice, there would probably only be 1 or 2 chapters at these schools.. if that.

If you randomly polled 100 sorority women on this site, I'm willing to bet at least half of them didn't end up at their first choice (or in the chapter that for the majority of recruitment they thought was THE BEST EVER).

It's. not. the. same.

If a woman says she will be in "ABC sorority or nothing", I can understand that. That is a feeling that can transcend gender. So if a PNM drops out of recruitment when she is cut by ABC or XYZ, I don't feel ill will towards her. I understand.


You don't think there are women who would rather be independent than be affiliated with their second or third choice? Thats the point I'm trying to drive at. If the OP feels this way, more power to her

33girl 01-19-2011 07:31 PM

Did you meet all the fraternities at your college? Did you spend time with all of them? If not, then I think you probably made the wrong choice and will end up disaffiliating or getting kicked out before you graduate.

Alumiyum 01-19-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2022160)
If a woman says she will be in "ABC sorority or nothing", I can understand that. That is a feeling that can transcend gender. So if a PNM drops out of recruitment when she is cut by ABC or XYZ, I don't feel ill will towards her. I understand.


You don't think there are women who would rather be independent than be affiliated with their second or third choice? Thats the point I'm trying to drive at. If the OP feels this way, more power to her

What we're trying to tell you is:
a) Unless you are in fact female and a member of an NPC sorority, you cannot give good advice on this topic.
b) Choosing to be ABC or nothing due to a perceived "top" ranking is stupid, detrimental to PNMs, and should not be encouraged. That is not a sufficient reason.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2022167)
Did you meet all the fraternities at your college? Did you spend time with all of them? If not, then I think you probably made the wrong choice and will end up disaffiliating or getting kicked out before you graduate.

6 fraternities, I met with 4 of them because one was on suspension and the other only had 4 members. After meeting a few brothers of the 4, I only considered rushing Lambda Chi and I'm so happy I did :)

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2022168)
What we're trying to tell you is:
a) Unless you are in fact female and a member of an NPC sorority, you cannot give good advice on this topic.
b) Choosing to be ABC or nothing due to a perceived "top" ranking is stupid, detrimental to PNMs, and should not be encouraged. That is not a sufficient reason.

I agree with both points. I know a decent amount dealing with NPC and NPHC recruitment through my various life experiences but not enough to give proper advice to an individual who doesn't go to my school

TSteven 01-19-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2021970)
No, I Know what University this is. It's real.

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Originally Posted by xomanadaxo (Post 2021971)
For once, I actually knew what university this was, too. OP, stop posting personal info on the internet. It's not hard to figure out who you are from this info.

Me too. :D

Splash 01-19-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2022160)
If a woman says she will be in "ABC sorority or nothing", I can understand that. That is a feeling that can transcend gender. So if a PNM drops out of recruitment when she is cut by ABC or XYZ, I don't feel ill will towards her. I understand.


You don't think there are women who would rather be independent than be affiliated with their second or third choice? Thats the point I'm trying to drive at. If the OP feels this way, more power to her

Some women feel this way, but they give the sorority a chance. (They don't have to initiate, but why not true at least?) Many many times, they do a 180 and are SO glad they gave it a chance and can't see themselves anywhere else.

U Go Glen Coco! 01-19-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 2022177)
Me too. :D

At least the PNM's username isn't connected to another online message board revealing her one night stand and that she might have genital herpes.

33girl 01-19-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2022169)
6 fraternities, I met with 4 of them because one was on suspension and the other only had 4 members. After meeting a few brothers of the 4, I only considered rushing Lambda Chi and I'm so happy I did :)

That's not a good excuse to skip two of them. Also, you just "met" them and didn't go to a rush party? Sorry, but I think that was a very poor decision on your part. Everyone should have to meet with every fraternity or not be allowed to join at all.

BemoreLXA 01-19-2011 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2022192)
That's not a good excuse to skip two of them. Also, you just "met" them and didn't go to a rush party? Sorry, but I think that was a very poor decision on your part. Everyone should have to meet with every fraternity or not be allowed to join at all.

First of all, I don't see how one chapter being suspended is not a good excuse to not meet with some of the brothers. I'm not going to rush a suspended fraternity and be "initiated" underground I only skipped one and thats because they only had 4 members and aren't very involved on campus. It may have been a poor decision, it may not have been. I really won't know because I joined Lambda Chi. Its worked out pretty well though.

Overall, I really disagree with you about having to meet with every fraternity. We don't have rules like formal recruitment and I think thats a good thing. If you only want to meet with one or two organizations, I see nothing wrong with that because its my choice. If I don't want to meet with XYZ because I see them all acting like assholes at the local bar, thats my decision. You know?

Drolefille 01-19-2011 09:44 PM

Facepalm picture to thread 2022207. Paging the facepalm picture to thread 2022207, thank you.


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