UCF student needing some advice
 

I am a sophmore currently attending UCF.

My major is in business.

I'm on the fence as to what I want to do this spring rush.

I could:

1. Stay GDI
2. Rush a social frat such as Sigma Chi, Phi Delta Theta, ATO.
3. Rush a professional business fraternity
4. Be directed towards a frat with both the professionalism of a business fraternity and the fun/social side of Sigma Chi, Phi Delt.

I am a very confident, outgoing, and attractive guy. Many people have told me I should be in a fraternity. I have had a pretty good social life during my GDI time, and I am not opposed to staying GDI. I have a good deal of "bros" and some sexy ladies as well interested in me. I have no problem getting girls.

However, I see how several of my guy friends in Sigma Chi and Phi Delt are constantly around 9's and 10's. I have a couple, but these guys are getting laid by these sexy women more than I am on my own. In general, they seem to have a pretty awesome time from what I've seen. Plus they fit my personality and general interests more than the business frat.

My other option is joining one of the professional business fraternities. While I like the professionalism the frats has to offer, most of the members are rather unnattractive and nerdy (yes, I know that sounds shallow). They just aren't the type of people I would typically hang out with. But I am attracted to the "future" they offer me such as internships, job opportunites, etc.

I am hoping I could get a bunch of answers to help me decide what to do, and give me a little more insight as to where a person like me would best be fit. Additionally, if anyone could help explain to me which frats would be best for me for future jobs, internships, etc,. I would be very appreciative.

Please don't judge me for my reasoning for the social frats. My perspective is solely from what I've seen heard and seen. I know there is more to these frats than just partying, but frankly, this is the most visible and pronounced part. :)

QFP

*sigh*

I think 1 or 2 are your best options. Staying GDI is a really neat experience as I was GDI for a very very long time, but going greek is a great experience on its own as well. You're in a good position because it seems like a lot of GLO's want you so I'd just focus on those 3 and keep getting laid

Really?

I think you just sunk lower than the OP,and at the end of his post, I wouldn't hage thought that possible.

Is it just me, or are all of the trolls coming out of the woodwork at once?

There seems to be an overabundance of them lately...

Just telling him what I think he should do. If he's cool with being GDI, I can see no reason why he shouldn't stay GDI. But if he cares about lifelong brotherhood, secret handshakes, a little more networking, and the 9's and 10's I would advise him to join a social fraternity. Its pretty obvious. I'm just advising against the buisness fraternity

OP, maybe you can join the buisness fraternity and the social fraternity? Here I know you can join be a member of both service or academic fraternities and social fraternities so that may be an option at UCF

You remind me of a guy who came through rush at my school last year. Said some of the exact same things you just did. When it came to voting on PNMs, he got a unanimous no and we all laughed at how he acted. Talk about trying way too hard.

Only one chapter gave him a bid and revoked it on the night of induction.

I think all four options are wrong. What you should really do is work to be named the sweetheart for one of the sororities. That would really get you laid a TON.

If you're only joining a fraternity (not a FRAT, thankyouverymuch) to get girls, for the love of God stay a GDI. Have a LITTLE respect for the greek system.

Reincarnation of PhiDelta "i'm just trollin guyz" ?

Winter break + huge ass storms = trollfest.

So you're saying you're bi?

@ BemoreLXA,

Thank you for actually taking the question seriously. Your answer was very helpful. Any reason as to why the business fratERNITY is a bad idea? (@ FleurGirl - Talk about being a troll, if really abbreviating "frat" on the internet bothers you so much, I wish I could meet your sisters, they must be Jesus Christ to deal with your ridiculous attitude).

@lucgreek

If you actually think I'm dumb enough to say any of this out loud to anyone, you're on the same level as FleurGirl. I thought that maybe if I came on this site, and was brutally honest I would actually get some help. Maybe get some questions answered in a mature way that I could never ask one of the brothers. Way to show just how nice and helpful the individuals in Greek Life are.

@33girl

If you're going to attempt to be humorous or satirical, please actually make it somewhat clever/original. Resorting to a lame "bi" joke? Didn't know they had Greek Life in 3rd grade. Again, it seems that these boards are dominated with trolls who lack any ability to be helpful in the least. I think the "trollfest" hit hardest right by your computer screen.

@ anyone that isn't a giant dbag

Care to give me some more GOOD opinions?
Why is the business fraternity a bad idea? Are they really not that helpful?

Thank you to everyone that is able to give me a MATURE answer (all one of you). :)

MATURE? OMG...if you could die of irony, you should start making out your will right now.

If all you're looking for in a fraternity is getting laid then by all means, stay GDI.

I was being HONEST! Like I said, there are other issues I have, but those I can ask and have answered. And actually, I think it is perfectly mature. At UCF, Sigma Chi is known for "f**king 9's and 10's." Ask anyone on campus what they've heard about Sigma Chi, and EVERYONE will say that. Hell, even the brothers I know say that is one of their main selling points. But those are only the one's being honest and straight.

Clearly you would rather have a bunch of fake, misleading people involved, but I was hoping for some straight and USEFUL help. Apparently I was incredibly wrong. I would be ashamed if I ever treated a guest like that (on the internet or in real life).

So once again, if you cannot give me a legitimate answer,
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING IN THIS THREAD!

Thank you very much. :)

As I said before, I was simply asking the questions that I can't ask in person.

@ the majority of those that responded

I like how I ask for some non-judgmental answers, and all I get is rude and unhelpful responses. Really a welcoming community you ladies and gentlemen have here.

Honest =/= Mature

Example: My 6 year old can honestly say that she wants a Hershey's bar for breakfast, but that's not a mature idea. Honest, but not mature.

Also, I hate to tell ya, but you don't get to control who responds to what thread. Even if you do use a smilie face.

You ask judgemental questions, you get judgemental answers.

Okay, God's honest truth:

Should you rush and join a fraternity?

We don't know.

We don't know you.

Only you can answer the question.

It gets difficult for us to take seriously the MANY times this question gets asked. We're strangers on a chatboard. We don't know you well enough to say "Yes, go for it" or "No, you will hate it".

I could ask everybody here: "Should I be a police officer?" They only know that I have an interest in the field, not that I'm scared of guns and have a wooden foot. (btw - I don't have a wooden foot and I'm not scared of guns.)

You said you have friends in Sigma Chi. Ask them. Ask the people who know you. They can give you the serious answers.

Post Script:

While having sex with beautiful women in college is a great thing, it is not what the fraternity is about. If that is the biggest selling point of our chapter at UCF, then my fellow brothers are not living up to the Jordan Standard and completely misunderstanding our ritual.

I agree, however this is the reality at UCF. And I figured since this is the internet, I could get some honesty. All I've gotten so far is a bunch of rude responses (excluding BEMORE and LaneSig). The brothers in the social frats I mentioned make a HUGE deal about the girls they eff and everything I said. But so I wouldn't make an a** out of myself in person, I figured I would apparently make an a** out of myself on line.

Since you continue to respond, why not actually give me a little help?

The faster I get some help, the faster I can make my decision, and the faster I can go back to my troll cave which is obviously the only place I could've come from.

Is the business fraternity a good idea? From a business (future jobs, internships, etc.) standpoint, is a social or professional fraternity better?

Actually, all I asked for was to pick one of the 4#'s I provided as an answer. And explain why you think that answer is best.

Also, I asked for an explanation as to why AKPsi would not be a good idea to rush.

Please explain how those questions would have anything to do with judging me personally? Especially when this is anonymous?

THANK YOU for this answer! I really appreciate it. I realize you are right and your solution is the best way.

Is there any reason why the business fraternity is a bad idea? I know the other individual that gave me a real answer advised against it.

You are going to make connections in either group. It will be up to you to add to the group you choose in order to make the friendships where people will want to help you out.

I know that Sigma Chi has helped me out on several occassions. My first 2 jobs out of college were through my fraternity connections. Even years later, I have had people notice my ring and say, "Oh, Sigma Chi". I've had friends in other fraternities where this has happened to them.

Can you be in Alpha Kappa Psi and a social fraternity at the same time (I honestly don't know)? Why not rush a social group first and then AKPsi 2nd (if allowed)?

You're judging what fraternity life is all about. How many "sexy ladies" you know and 9's and 10's shoudn't matter. It makes you look like a douche.

And noone's going to tell you which fraternity to join. YOU decide what's right for you. If you're looking for people to bad mouth other orgs then you're on the wrong site.

GreekChat is not class, and you are not its professor.

Thanks again for the response!

Yes, at UCF you can be in a social and professional fraternity. However, I don't actually know anyone who has done it, mainly because of the large amount of work and time a pledge or brother has to invest.

can add to sig plz?

I was simply asking for some advice, much like LaneSig provided. I agree I came across as a douche, but I was just being honest, and I was hoping to get some real answers. I'm not asking for anyone to bad mouth anyone. I just wanted to get some professional answers that would help influence my decisions.

And once again, thank you for extremely helpful and enlightening post agzg. Very helpful.

OMG, this is sig worthy too! This thread is good for something, after all.

And thank you for the generous contribution you have added. Without your needless spam, this thread would be nowhere.

I was answering in a completely mature way, by being blunt. If you're going through rush to get "9's and 10's," a pair of letters isn't going to make that happen. You've stated really superficial reasons about going through rush that brothers WILL see through. You haven't even stated why you want to join a fraternity. It's also funny you're going by what you "hear" or "see," despite saying you know brothers in the groups. If these guys haven't approached you about rushing since you've met them, maybe they don't find you material for their group.

I'll be even more blunt. You're essentially a junior who will graduate next year. Which means if you pledge this spring, you have one year as an active. That is enough for most groups to say 'no thanks.'

Just FYI, there are members of groups at UCF who read these boards. It would be very easy to find out who you are based on your information.

Thank you for this answer. I appreciate your bluntness and your professional answer. The reason I asked these superficial questions on here is because I would never ask them in person. I agree they are very shallow and silly, but they aren't things I would say without being anonymous.

The main reasons I want to rush is the relationships you build with the brothers, the networking you partake in general on campus, and the potential connections for the future. Since I am a business major, I believe it is extremely important to be involved in Greek life.

And yes the brothers of the fraternities I mention, as well as others, have asked me to rush every semester since I have been here. Most of the hearing and seeing has occurred first hand or from the brothers I know.

Thank you for the last part, I agree it would be best for me to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. However, I'm very private about my intentions so I would be surprised if anyone would be able to figure out who I am. I do see what you are saying, and I will be more careful.

Then you seem to have all the information you need. What's the point of asking here? We're all people on the internet. We don't know your campus better than you.

Very true. However, for my future would a professional or social fraternity be better for getting potential jobs or internships?

Where internships are concerned, it's more of your department major and advisor. They are the ones who can help you best with finding internships in your field.

Networking gets you a job or internship. Any group will provide you with that. Being a Sigma Chi won't automatically get you a job over being in Alpha Kappa Psi. It's all situational. You're asking a question that doesn't have a straight answer.

Thank you for both of your answers. Although I may not have a clear answer, you both have helped me a lot. I realize now that the I need to go with my gut decision.

I know networking is important, but you both have some very good points. I suppose the only reason I would go with a professional business fraternity would be for the potential business opportunites, not for the brotherhood and other reasons I listed.

When it comes down to it I guess I just wanted to know if AKPsi would provide me with far better opportunity for my future in business. If it is not an extreme difference, then I would definitely want to join a social fraternity, as the individuals involved are far more appealing to me.

Thank you again for your help! You both have been very helpful!

If a moderator wants to close or delete this thread now, please feel free to.

This entire thread...

What the fuck.

The answer is to go get with some 9's and 10's now, obviously.

No problem man. First, I think the business fraternity would be a worse option compared to the social fraternities because you primarily want the business fraternity for networking connections it seems and those connections are also possible with social fraternities since they're nationwide organizations with plenty of members in all aspects of society. I guess thats one thing you could consider when choosing who to pledge. Secondly, the other reasons you want to go greek don't exactly align with the business fraternity either. So i wouldn't chose that over a social org.

However, if your school allows you to join both I would say go for it if you think you can. Just don't pledge both at the same time, I'd pledge the social one first.

Also, I somewhat have a problem calling a fraternity a "frat". You wouldn't call your country a cunt. However, I felt differently as a GDI. When you see things from the perspective of an initiated member you may feel differently

Best of Luck