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agzg 01-13-2011 05:40 PM

Astrological Signs Change
 
I refuse to accept this! #TeamTaurus!

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So, you've spent your whole life happily smug in your star sign. You're a fish! Swimming in two directions! You're intuitive, imaginative, unworldly! And then today's Web is aflame with the news: You are not a Pisces. You are an Aquarius. Your star sign has been wrong your whole life. All along, you've been a freaking water carrier. This is not cool.

According to Parke Kunkle, a board member of the Minnesota Planetarium Society, cool or not, it's written in the stars. Star signs were created by ancient Babylonians some 2,000 years ago by tracking where the sun was in the sky each month. However, the moon's gravitational pull has slowly moved the Earth in its axis, creating about a one-month bump in the stars' alignment, reports the Minnesota Star Tribune. Now, during what we think as the month of Pisces, the sun is actually in the sign of Aries.

The new dates would therefore be:

Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11
Pisces: March 11-April 18
Aries: April 18-May 13
Taurus: May 13-June 21
Gemini: June 21-July 20
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23
Scorpio: Nov. 23-Dec. 17
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20

33girl 01-13-2011 05:43 PM

Eff no. This is stupid.

lovespink88 01-13-2011 05:56 PM

No me gusta.

Kappamd 01-13-2011 06:02 PM

Heck NO.

WCsweet<3 01-13-2011 06:05 PM

I'm a textbook aries. This would say I'm a pisces.

Um no.

SMTTT 01-13-2011 06:22 PM

I liked being a Gemini even though we get a bad rap :(

knight_shadow 01-13-2011 06:23 PM

I'm a Virgo and it's going to stay that way. With the new one, I'm supposed to be a Leo. I don't even know how Leos are supposed to act. Bleh.

Not that astrological signs are that damn important lol

Xylochick216 01-13-2011 06:31 PM

I'm 100% Aquarius. This puts me on the cusp of Capricorn and Aquarius (my birthday is 2/16). Hmmmm...

Tulip86 01-13-2011 06:32 PM

I'm SUCH a capricorn! And this would make me a sagittarius... no waay

Drolefille 01-13-2011 06:33 PM

The only thing sillier than taking your astrological sign seriously is taking it so seriously that you would attempt to adjust it to the modern sky.

Gusteau 01-13-2011 06:35 PM

I'm still a Taurus.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJ...na_Hate_03.jpg

MysticCat 01-13-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2020287)
The only thing sillier than taking your astrological sign seriously is taking it so seriously that you would attempt to adjust it to the modern sky.

Birthday wisdom!

Chicago88 01-13-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SMTTT (Post 2020281)
I liked being a Gemini even though we get a bad rap :(

I'm a gemini too! I like being a Gemini.

AOIIalum 01-13-2011 07:48 PM

Textbook Scorpio here, which means there's no freaking way I'm going to be any other astrological sign!

AGDee 01-13-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2020282)
I'm a Virgo and it's going to stay that way. With the new one, I'm supposed to be a Leo. I don't even know how Leos are supposed to act. Bleh.

Not that astrological signs are that damn important lol

I can see Leo in you.. Leos love to be the center of attention and have pretty big egos.

On the other hand, I am a Pisces through and through and I'm only off by one day now (March 10th) so that would put me on the cusp.. I'm sticking with Pisces.

BluPhire 01-13-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2020282)
I'm a Virgo and it's going to stay that way. With the new one, I'm supposed to be a Leo. I don't even know how Leos are supposed to act. Bleh.

Not that astrological signs are that damn important lol


No we don't need no soft Leos on the team. Stay a Virgo.

LOL

Just messing with ya.

knight_shadow 01-13-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2020314)
I can see Leo in you.. Leos love to be the center of attention and have pretty big egos.

On the other hand, I am a Pisces through and through and I'm only off by one day now (March 10th) so that would put me on the cusp.. I'm sticking with Pisces.

Maybe there's something to this new list

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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 2020317)
No we don't need no soft Leos on the team. Stay a Virgo.

LOL

Just messing with ya.

:mad: lol

whiteandblack 01-13-2011 08:10 PM

me in league with Gemini? ah hell no

Psi U MC Vito 01-13-2011 08:19 PM

This would make me a Cancer. What does that even mean?

epchick 01-13-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2020287)
The only thing sillier than taking your astrological sign seriously is taking it so seriously that you would attempt to adjust it to the modern sky.

*like*

I don't get all the hulabaloo over it. I think Zodiac signs are fun, at times, but really to get so defensive on t_witter and FB about it? Sheesh.

ETA: Ok so I read the article, and I STILL don't understand where the 13th Zodiac sign comes in. According to this article they just moved each sign up like a month, but no mention of this Orpheususesuseus crap (yeah I don't know the name, deal! ha)

AGDLynn 01-13-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AOIIalum (Post 2020310)
Textbook Scorpio here, which means there's no freaking way I'm going to be any other astrological sign!

YEP!!!:rolleyes:

ASUADPi 01-13-2011 09:53 PM

Oh Thank God, I'm still a Pisces!

naraht 01-14-2011 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 2020322)
ETA: Ok so I read the article, and I STILL don't understand where the 13th Zodiac sign comes in. According to this article they just moved each sign up like a month, but no mention of this Orpheususesuseus crap (yeah I don't know the name, deal! ha)

Ophiuchus. :p

Drolefille 01-14-2011 02:00 AM

Lol at LiveScience having this story 4 years ago and the internet just catching on today.

Also the "13th sign" is an old sign that the Babylonians ditched because they wanted 12 signs. But you know, they're still so totally accurate. Or something.

LaneSig 01-14-2011 09:56 AM

What about all the people who have tattooed their signs on them? Wondering if I can learn how to do laser removal and make some quick money.

AnotherKD 01-14-2011 01:17 PM

No worries, everyone- you are still what you were before. The signs *have not* changed!

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/13...hanged/?hpt=C2

christiangirl 01-15-2011 04:41 PM

^^^Thank you. The cyber-panic all over the webs (Facebook in particular) was getting annoying!

rhoyaltempest 01-15-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2020287)
The only thing sillier than taking your astrological sign seriously is taking it so seriously that you would attempt to adjust it to the modern sky.

Some people study astrology. There's nothing "silly" about it and while I don't study it myself, I have respect for those that indeed take their astrological signs seriously. All I know is I'm 100% textbook Taurus in every way so there's definitely something to it...at least for me.

knight_shadow 01-15-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 2020852)
Some people study astrology. There's nothing "silly" about it and while I don't study it myself, I have respect for those that indeed take their astrological signs seriously. All I know is I'm 100% textbook Taurus in every way so there's definitely something to it...at least for me.

Studying astrology =/= studying signs of the zodiac

rhoyaltempest 01-15-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2020855)
Studying astrology =/= studying signs of the zodiac

True but you get what I mean:)

knight_shadow 01-15-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 2020857)
True but you get what I mean:)

Yea, I know :)

Just pointing out that it's not silly to study the physics of the universe, but getting all OMG MISS CLEO crazy can come off as silly.

rhoyaltempest 01-15-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2020858)
Yea, I know :)

Just pointing out that it's not silly to study the physics of the universe, but getting all OMG MISS CLEO crazy can come off as silly.

It's scary though how much I'm a Taurus that I sometimes want to call Miss Cleo:o...LOL! But I won't.

Drolefille 01-15-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 2020852)
Some people study astrology. There's nothing "silly" about it and while I don't study it myself, I have respect for those that indeed take their astrological signs seriously. All I know is I'm 100% textbook Taurus in every way so there's definitely something to it...at least for me.

If Taurus 100% describes you, but does not 100% describe every person within the Taurus sign, then no, it's called coincidence. The human brain likes to see patterns, that doesn't actually mean there is true causation, or even true correlation. Particularly since the human brain also ignores things that disagree with the conclusions it already has and retains the things that agree. So when the horoscope is 'right' then we remember how AWESOMELY right it was and when it was wrong we remember how AWESOMELY RIGHT IT WAS LAST TIME.

So yes, it is silly. It's not science. It can be studied as a practice the same way many other things are studied, but if it is anything it is purely faith based. As I've never seen anyone actually claim a zodiacal faith, I'm not particularly concerned with calling it silly.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to read a horoscope for entertainment, or to read up on the historical and religious beliefs of the time of Ptolemy when the western zodiac was created and understand the concept... but basing one's life on it, complaining about having to relearn one's life as a ________ because they're no longer a ____________ is silly.

And k_s appears to be mistaking astrology with astronomy.

knight_shadow 01-15-2011 07:25 PM

Ahhh, fuck. You're right, DF.

ComradesTrue 01-15-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2020868)
If Taurus 100% describes you, but does not 100% describe every person within the Taurus sign, then no, it's called coincidence. The human brain likes to see patterns, that doesn't actually mean there is true causation, or even true correlation. Particularly since the human brain also ignores things that disagree with the conclusions it already has and retains the things that agree. So when the horoscope is 'right' then we remember how AWESOMELY right it was and when it was wrong we remember how AWESOMELY RIGHT IT WAS LAST TIME.

So yes, it is silly. It's not science. It can be studied as a practice the same way many other things are studied, but if it is anything it is purely faith based. As I've never seen anyone actually claim a zodiacal faith, I'm not particularly concerned with calling it silly.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to read a horoscope for entertainment, or to read up on the historical and religious beliefs of the time of Ptolemy when the western zodiac was created and understand the concept... but basing one's life on it, complaining about having to relearn one's life as a ________ because they're no longer a ____________ is silly.

Do I hear an AMEN? Oh, wait...

Drolefille 01-15-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2020872)
Ahhh, fuck. You're right, DF.

It's why I'm here. To be the kill to your buzz. The cold floor underneath your naked ass in the morning.

Wait.

Splash 01-15-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SMTTT (Post 2020281)
I liked being a Gemini even though we get a bad rap :(

Bingo.

AND I'll go ahead and save you all the trouble of making the multiple personalities joke - I only have ONE username.

rhoyaltempest 01-15-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2020868)
If Taurus 100% describes you, but does not 100% describe every person within the Taurus sign, then no, it's called coincidence. The human brain likes to see patterns, that doesn't actually mean there is true causation, or even true correlation. Particularly since the human brain also ignores things that disagree with the conclusions it already has and retains the things that agree. So when the horoscope is 'right' then we remember how AWESOMELY right it was and when it was wrong we remember how AWESOMELY RIGHT IT WAS LAST TIME.

So yes, it is silly. It's not science. It can be studied as a practice the same way many other things are studied, but if it is anything it is purely faith based. As I've never seen anyone actually claim a zodiacal faith, I'm not particularly concerned with calling it silly.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to read a horoscope for entertainment, or to read up on the historical and religious beliefs of the time of Ptolemy when the western zodiac was created and understand the concept... but basing one's life on it, complaining about having to relearn one's life as a ________ because they're no longer a ____________ is silly.

And k_s appears to be mistaking astrology with astronomy.

I don't even read horoscopes very much; they're never dead on with me but I do believe there is something to the zodiac, for some more than others of course. Some people are 100% their sign and others are to a certain extent or on the cusp with another or more. I have a book on Taurus which I purchased a while back just for fun, based on the study of several Taureans, both men and women and was totally amazed at the intimate details it revealed about my personality; things most people don't even know about me. Now, will every Taurus prove to be the same way, probably not but all the Taureans I know (and I know a few, both men and women) share the same personality traits and there also seems to be a slight difference (but the same difference) regarding April Taureans vs. May Taureans and males vs. females. Is this coincidence? I don't see it that way but we can agree to disagree since all opinions are valid.

rhoyaltempest 01-15-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2020868)
If Taurus 100% describes you, but does not 100% describe every person within the Taurus sign, then no, it's called coincidence. The human brain likes to see patterns, that doesn't actually mean there is true causation, or even true correlation. Particularly since the human brain also ignores things that disagree with the conclusions it already has and retains the things that agree. So when the horoscope is 'right' then we remember how AWESOMELY right it was and when it was wrong we remember how AWESOMELY RIGHT IT WAS LAST TIME.

So yes, it is silly. It's not science. It can be studied as a practice the same way many other things are studied, but if it is anything it is purely faith based. As I've never seen anyone actually claim a zodiacal faith, I'm not particularly concerned with calling it silly.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to read a horoscope for entertainment, or to read up on the historical and religious beliefs of the time of Ptolemy when the western zodiac was created and understand the concept... but basing one's life on it, complaining about having to relearn one's life as a ________ because they're no longer a ____________ is silly.

And k_s appears to be mistaking astrology with astronomy.

Thanks for pointing this out. Knight_Shadow was trying to confuse me.:D

Drolefille 01-15-2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 2020885)
I don't even read horoscopes very much; they're never dead on with me but I do believe there is something to the zodiac, for some more than others of course. Some people are 100% their sign and others are to a certain extent or on the cusp with another or more. I have a book on Taurus which I purchased a while back just for fun, based on the study of several Taureans, both men and women and was totally amazed at the intimate details it revealed about my personality; things most people don't even know about me. Now, will every Taurus prove to be the same way, probably not but all the Taureans I know (and I know a few, both men and women) share the same personality traits and there also seems to be a slight difference (but the same difference) regarding April Taureans vs. May Taureans and males vs. females. Is this coincidence? I don't see it that way but we can agree to disagree since all opinions are valid.

But if it only describes some Taureans then what is the point?

I mean, for example, I'm a Capricorn. I'm very stubborn, but I'm not organized at all. If I want to believe in the zodiac I'd probably say, well I'm such a Capricorn and if it weren't for my ADD I'd be really really organized too. So I've created an explanation.

But the real question is, how do constellations which are random groupings of stars that kind of looked like certain beings to the Ancient Greeks (for the Ptolemeic zodiac) have any effect on the personalities of people born during 'their' months.

It's not surprising you see patterns, because as I said, that's what the brain does. It's really common, but that doesn't mean there's actually something TO the zodiac.

Sorry, it's just that differing opinions don't come into play when it's about evidence and science. If you want to believe in it, fine, but it's essentially religious.


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