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jennyj87 01-09-2011 01:54 PM

FSU Chi Omega student
 
Thoughts and prayers with the FSU Chi Omega's and Ashley's family.



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A Florida State University student from Orange Park was shot and killed early Sunday morning in an off-campus fraternity house. Ashley Cowie, a 21-year-old sophomore, died in what Tallahassee police are describing as an accidental shooting.

A second student was injured and another from Ponte Vedra Beach has been arrested.

According to police, Evan Wilhelm, a 21-year-old junior from Ponte Vedra Beach, was showing his rifle to friends in the Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity house when it accidentally discharged, striking Cowie in the chest and then Keith Savino, a 21-year-old junior from Tampa, in the wrist.

Wilhelm has been arrested and charged with manslaughter, a second-degree felony.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...ed-tallahassee

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/2...ental-shooting

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/2...ental-shooting

twinkle555 01-09-2011 02:57 PM

How sad :( RIP Ashley...

AOII Angel 01-09-2011 03:11 PM

How terrible. If you have a gun, you should really take a gun safety course. Showing off a loaded gun is totally irresponsible. My heart goes out to Ashley Cowie's family and all her Chi Omega sisters. What a senseless tragedy.

Alumiyum 01-09-2011 03:23 PM

Yeah he shouldn't have been showing off his loaded gun. I feel sorry for her family and I feel sorry for him too since he has to live with the fact that he killed someone in such a stupid way.

Benzgirl 01-09-2011 03:40 PM

Is it just me or does anyone else think loaded guns should be banned from Greek houses?
I feel bad for all involved.

carnation 01-09-2011 04:04 PM

Loaded guns in the house so often cause tragedy. Last week, one of my former students was killed by someone showing him his loaded gun. When my uncle was a teenager, his friend was showing him his supposedly unloaded gun and killed him. I can think of several cases over the years where someone was killed while being shown a gun.

AOII Angel 01-09-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2018788)
Loaded guns in the house so often cause tragedy. Last week, one of my former students was killed by someone showing him his loaded gun. When my uncle was a teenager, his friend was showing him his supposedly unloaded gun and killed him. I can think of several cases over the years where someone was killed while being shown a gun.

Uneducated gun owners often think their gun is unloaded when one is in the chamber. Some states have mandated education, and the NRA campaigns on education. Unfortunately, we still see these types of mistakes. It is so sad...
I grew up with tons of guns, mostly rifles in my home, and my dad always taught us to NEVER point a gun at someone. My brother, when he was eight, pointed a gun at me, and I flipped out. He never did that again. I don't own a gun, and am conflicted about the issue now. If you have guns, please, please...store them away from your children in a gun safe with the bullets somewhere else and educate everyone near them about gun safety!!

OleMissGlitter 01-09-2011 04:44 PM

This saddens me so much. Prayers for her family and friends. So tragic.

thetaj 01-09-2011 04:56 PM

Sending Theta love and prayers to the family in Orange Park and over to the sweet Chi O's in Tally. I can't believe he didn't disarm it before showing it off... but it's a terrible accident and I don't wish that kind of guilt on anyone. Sending peace and healing prayers to him and his family.

preciousjeni 01-09-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2018788)
Loaded guns in the house so often cause tragedy. Last week, one of my former students was killed by someone showing him his loaded gun. When my uncle was a teenager, his friend was showing him his supposedly unloaded gun and killed him. I can think of several cases over the years where someone was killed while being shown a gun.

My brother was showing me how to operate and clean a new gun he had purchased...but it was loaded. Unfortunately, something went wrong and it went off. Thank God my grandparents/parents taught us NEVER to point a gun in the direction of a person, even if we think it's unloaded. No one was injured, but boy did we get into trouble (for good reason). I fully agree with Benzgirl about loaded guns being banned from Greek Houses.

My prayers go out to everyone affected by this tragedy.

UFgatorLove 01-09-2011 05:53 PM

This was so terrible to read! I have several friends at that school and some in the Greek system there!
My heart goes out to Chi Omega at FSU!!

exlurker 01-09-2011 06:06 PM

Deepest sympathy to her family, her Chi Omega sisters, and her friends.

arrowlady 01-09-2011 07:04 PM

How very tragic for all involved. My thoughts and prayers for her family and Chi Omega sisters.

excelblue 01-09-2011 07:13 PM

My heart goes out to all of those affected by the situation.

However, I'm just shocked at how something like this actually showed up as a very real risk management issue gone wrong.

Main things I'd like to know is:
- Since he's a graduate, why did anyone allow him on the house with the gun?
- Why didn't anybody deny him of alcoholic drinks if he had the gun? Judgment is the first thing that goes when it comes to alcohol.
- He never checked to see whether or not the gun was loaded before bringing it?!

I hope he thinks long and hard about it in jail and doesn't get out until he's matured significantly.

NutBrnHair 01-10-2011 02:23 PM

Very sad.
 
http://eleusis.chiomega.com/news.asp...shleyCowie.xml

AZTheta 01-10-2011 02:26 PM

Deep peace and prayers for healing in this time of unspeakable sorrow and loss, to the family, friends, Chi Omega, and all who suffer.

purpleparrot 01-10-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by excelblue (Post 2018862)
My heart goes out to all of those affected by the situation.

However, I'm just shocked at how something like this actually showed up as a very real risk management issue gone wrong.

Main things I'd like to know is:
- Since he's a graduate, why did anyone allow him on the house with the gun?
- Why didn't anybody deny him of alcoholic drinks if he had the gun? Judgment is the first thing that goes when it comes to alcohol.
- He never checked to see whether or not the gun was loaded before bringing it?!

I hope he thinks long and hard about it in jail and doesn't get out until he's matured significantly.

He was not a graduate, he was an active. He lived in the house, and the students were in his room when he decided to show them a flashlight attachment that he had just gotten for the gun. It was a poor choice for all the students to be near him holding a rifle when he had been drinking, and it was especially poor decision making for him to not check if the gun was loaded and to not watch where he pointed it. It was a horrible accident and I feel terrible for everyone involved, especially the girl's family and friends.

BemoreLXA 01-10-2011 05:54 PM

Those guys will probably be getting a grade of 5 in the next standards of excellence review bahaha

Psi U MC Vito 01-10-2011 05:55 PM

Dude, you shouldn't be joking about something that resulted in somebody loosing their life.

BemoreLXA 01-10-2011 06:02 PM

yea you're probably right. Still, that chapter is fucked. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out

PiKA2001 01-10-2011 06:12 PM

People can be so dumb. You never keep a round in the chamber of a firearm. It only takes what, one second, to chamber a round?

Also, what fraternity houses allow live-ins to keep firearms there? I vaguely remember no guns being part if our house rules.

BemoreLXA 01-10-2011 06:22 PM

yes, its against insurance Im pretty sure

HannahXO 01-10-2011 06:40 PM

I know Chi Omega's national policy forbids firearms in any chapter housing. I remember reading that during NM period and thinking, wow, why would anyone keep guns in a fraternity/sorority house?

Without turning this into a second amendment debate (we've had enough political debate here on GC today :)) I'm glad my org has this policy, and I hope others have similar measures in place, and/or chapters take measures to ensure gun safety ed.

BemoreLXA 01-10-2011 06:42 PM

I'm glad my org has this policy as well :) this guy is such a moron although I did just add him on facebook for shits and giggles

knight_shadow 01-10-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA (Post 2019276)
I'm glad my org has this policy as well :) this guy is such a moron although I did just add him on facebook for shits and giggles

http://www.footiethreads.com/forum/i...ilies/wtf1.gif

HannahXO 01-10-2011 06:57 PM

um, he killed someone. not exactly shits and giggles worthy.

clarinette 01-10-2011 07:19 PM

My prayers are with this girl's family, friends, Chi Omega, and all who mourn her loss.

BemoreLXA 01-10-2011 07:26 PM

I'm interested in looking through the guy's profile pictures and such. See what people are writing on his wall. Fat chance he'll accept the friend request though

exlurker 01-11-2011 06:11 PM

No big surprise: Lambda Chi is "suspending" the chapter, see:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...ng-kills-girl-

Excerpt:

“. . . Lamda [sic] Chi Alpha, announced it is suspending the FSU chapter because of the shooting.”

Also:

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/2...ases-statement

knight_shadow 01-11-2011 06:16 PM

I don't see how the entire chapter is at fault, but oh well. Not my lane.

Alumiyum 01-11-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2019621)
I don't see how the entire chapter is at fault, but oh well. Not my lane.

I don't either...it's unfortunate. Maybe it's for drinking leading up to the shooting? (Total and complete speculation on my part, since they were drinking and I can't imagine how the chapter is responsible for what he did unless they all knew he kept a loaded gun in his room...which I doubt.) I really do feel sorry for everyone involved as well as their families.

Gusteau 01-11-2011 06:57 PM

Having firearms on chapter property is a direct violation of FIPG Policy. It sucks, and it's doesn't seem fair, but the chapter is responsible for upholding FIPG.

It's important to remember that suspension does not mean the same thing for all organizations, so it might not be as bad as it sounds for the chapter.

AnchorAlum 01-16-2011 03:23 PM

Very, very sad. I have a friend who was one of Ashley's teachers in high school at SJCD. Her identical twin sister is also a member of the Chapter and the young man "was" her boyfriend.
Late night/early morning and alcohol was involved which always creates a lapse in judgment. There was also an agreement all residents of Greek housing must sign which forbids firearms. The young man had no prior history of being a bad actor in any way. But his life is permanently changed.

As an FSU graduate, my heart is hurting for the parents and for her sister.

I also feel very bad for the Chi Omega Chapter, one of FSU's oldest and always a house full of terrific young women. Remember that this chapter has seen tragedy before - in the person of one Ted Bundy, back in 1979.

Keep Ashley and her family in your prayers.

carnation 01-16-2011 03:26 PM

Doesn't ZTA72 have twin Chi O daughters at FSU? :(

AOII Angel 01-16-2011 03:46 PM

How tragic. An identical twin losing her twin so suddenly is so sad. Having lived with identical twins, I cannot imagine either of them handling that very well, and they were living with me at separate times. What a close bond they share. My heart goes out to her sister. I hope that these are not ZTA72's daughters. That would make this too close to home!

AnchorAlum 01-16-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2021067)
Doesn't ZTA72 have twin Chi O daughters at FSU? :(

Is ZTA72's husband a dentist, by chance? Their father is a dentist.

FSUZeta 01-16-2011 03:59 PM

i believe that i remember hearing that zta72's daughters have already graduated and are pursuing graduate studies.


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