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gotsmartz 12-10-2010 05:45 PM

Transfer problems and joing a new frat
 
Hey guys,
I just transferred schools and I was in an aepi chapter at my old school. After transferring to the new school(I won't mention the name), the new aepi chapter did not let me in. They were incredibly rude, the president did not show up to a meeting he planned with me, and he said I could not attend any of their events. They told me to look at other fraternities and that transfers do not do well there. I could possibly call national and fight my way in, but I do not want to. If they don't want me in it, I don't want to be in it. They are extremely different then the chapter I was in at my old school and not people I want to associate with. Since I decided that I wouldn't let this ruin me being in a frat, I decided to check out other fraternities, but I am now told I can't join any of them because I am a member of Aepi. As it stands now, I cannot join absolutely any fraternity at my new school. Is there a way to get around this? The chapter here really shares nothing other then the name, the people are obsessed with drinking and nothing else. The new frat I have been looking at, SigEp, said they are not sure I can join but they have been very receptive. I am not the type of person to quit things, it's just they won't let me join here and are incredibly rude. Please let me know if anything can be done.
Thanks in advance and good luck with exams!

knight_shadow 12-10-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gotsmartz (Post 2010585)
Hey guys,
I just transferred schools and I was in an aepi chapter at my old school. After transferring to the new school(I won't mention the name), the new aepi chapter did not let me in. They were incredibly rude, the president did not show up to a meeting he planned with me, and he said I could not attend any of their events. They told me to look at other fraternities and that transfers do not do well there. I could possibly call national and fight my way in, but I do not want to. If they don't want me in it, I don't want to be in it. They are extremely different then the chapter I was in at my old school and not people I want to associate with. Since I decided that I wouldn't let this ruin me being in a frat, I decided to check out other fraternities, but I am now told I can't join any of them because I am a member of Aepi. As it stands now, I cannot join absolutely any fraternity at my new school. Is there a way to get around this? The chapter here really shares nothing other then the name, the people are obsessed with drinking and nothing else. The new frat I have been looking at, SigEp, said they are not sure I can join but they have been very receptive. I am not the type of person to quit things, it's just they won't let me join here and are incredibly rude. Please let me know if anything can be done.
Thanks in advance and good luck with exams!

No dual memberships allowed.

You'd have to drop from your current fraternity to be ELIGIBLE to join another, but that doesn't mean another fraternity will take you.

gotsmartz 12-10-2010 06:30 PM

I am willing to drop Aepi, and my old chapter is willing to help me because they understand the situation. SigEp is willing to accept me assuming they are allowed, are they? What would I need to do?
Thanks!

U Go Glen Coco! 12-10-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gotsmartz (Post 2010594)
I am willing to drop Aepi, and my old chapter is willing to help me because they understand the situation. SigEp is willing to accept me assuming they are allowed, are they? What would I need to do?
Thanks!

Get off Greekchat and contact your Headquarters' membership. No one here is qualified enough to give you membership advice.

knight_shadow 12-10-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gotsmartz (Post 2010594)
I am willing to drop Aepi, and my old chapter is willing to help me because they understand the situation. SigEp is willing to accept me assuming they are allowed, are they? What would I need to do?
Thanks!

As I said in my original post, once you terminate your current membership, you're ELIGIBLE for membership in any other NIC organization. That does not mean that the new organization has to (or will) take you. You're taking a gamble.

As the previous poster said, these questions are more appropriate for your I/HQ, not a message board. If you want to hear how others' stories panned out, do a search of the forum.

SouthernTKE 12-10-2010 08:30 PM

For this to happen, you have to not only deactivate from AEII, but get your national headquarters to send a letter saying such to SigEp headquarters (which AEII may not do, even if you deactivate). SigEp nationals then has to approve of you joining the national fraternity, and only then can the local SigEp chapter get you in. But you also have to check your university's IFC rules. Even if AEII and SigEp cooperate, IFC might have rules against this (my school does). Also, make sure that ALL the SigEps are on board, not just the friends you've made in it. If I were you I'd just take alum status and keep the SigEps as friends, but that's just me.

knight_shadow 12-10-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernTKE (Post 2010624)
Even if AEII and SigEp cooperate, IFC might have rules against this (my school does).

Really? I don't think IFC can trump I/HQ decisions, as far as individual membership is concerned.

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If I were you I'd just take alum status and keep the SigEps as friends, but that's just me.
Agreed.

SouthernTKE 12-10-2010 08:55 PM

It's in our IFC constitution that even if you're initiated and drop, under no circumstances can you join another social fraternity as an undergrad on campus. As far as whether it's legal for that clause to be there per NIC rules I couldn't say.

Gusteau 12-10-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernTKE (Post 2010631)
It's in our IFC constitution that even if you're initiated and drop, under no circumstances can you join another social fraternity as an undergrad on campus. As far as whether it's legal for that clause to be there per NIC rules I couldn't say.

I would interpret that as meaning two organizations (or rather, chapters) on the same campus, but without the text I couldn't say.

knight_shadow 12-11-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2010868)
every other GLO can go fuck themselves imo.

:rolleyes:

Senusret I 12-11-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2010868)
that is bullshit man, I would never drop my membership in one org over some bullshit like that! I chose my fraternity for a god damned good reason and every other GLO can go fuck themselves imo.

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/...cheSideEye.gif

knight_shadow 12-11-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2010899)
I'm sorry, every other fraternity can go fuck themselves imo

That's not better.

knight_shadow 12-14-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2011635)
Should be better. I'll hang out with you guys, I like you guys, I can be friends with other fraternities, work with them, etc. But I would never, ever, ever, consider joining another GLO. I love my brothers and my ritual and wouldn't go against them in that manner

There's a difference between "I love my org and can't see myself anywhere else" and "screw everyone that's not XYZ"

AlphaFrog 12-14-2010 10:34 AM

He would be so disappointed in you. :(


http://covers.openlibrary.org/b/olid/OL12237906M-M.jpg


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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2011635)
Should be better. I'll hang out with you guys, I like you guys, I can be friends with other fraternities, work with them, etc. But I would never, ever, ever, consider joining another GLO. I love my brothers and my ritual and wouldn't go against them in that manner


cheerfulgreek 12-14-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2010904)
That's not better.

lol

ScarletBlueGold 12-14-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2010899)
I'm sorry, every other fraternity can go fuck themselves imo

We should start a "Phi_Delt Post Greatest Hits" thread. This is definitely top 5, but my favorite contender still has to be

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2008159)
am I the only school that pledges old people regularly??


MysticCat 12-15-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ScarletBlueGold (Post 2011768)
We should start a "Phi_Delt Post Greatest Hits" thread. This is definitely top 5, but my favorite contender still has to be

Dare I say it -- it's like some strange reincarnation of Earp.

knight_shadow 12-15-2010 08:38 PM

*sigh*

This exchange is unfortunate.

Tulip86 12-15-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012170)
I didn't say "screw everyone thats not xyz" I said fuck a number of specific GLO's at my school. Thats honestly how I feel, buncha hazing faggots imo. Hazing is for pussies and I don't stand for that bullshit.


I am highly competitive, so yeah. Fuck the rest. Especially Alpha Symphosium, buncha poofs like Triangle. Specialized bullshit mumbo jumbo



? Are you for real? That is very offensive, and I would never guess that anyone who is educated enough to be Greek (thus in college) would stoop that low.
Homophobic remarks like that are unacceptable, I don't know who you think you are, but you sound like a very disappointed, scorned little boy, who for some reason feeds off putting other people down and hasn't got a decent bone in his body.
Maybe you should work on yourself before going online and posting such ridiculous things.

Dixi.

DrPhil 12-15-2010 09:50 PM

Phi_Delta, from one Black person to another Black person (I guess you just professed your Blackness LOL), explaining your words takes the "crassly entertaining" away from it all. We already know that you want to get attention and want to be crass, which is why you would type the "F word."

And, for those who don't know, Phi_Delta only exists to be crass, rude, and potentially offensive. Telling a crass, rude, and potentially offensive username that it is crass, rude, and potentially offensive is like telling them how kick ass they are.

I did chuckle at "thanks for listening."

AOEforme 12-15-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012205)
2. "Buncha Poofs".

All I can think of is Arrested Development: "I should be in this Poof!"

Drolefille 12-15-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012205)
I agree with you. My language is unacceptable. However, I stand by my words because I really mean them. They're strong words and I mean what I say, when I say it.

1. I hate people who haze so I direct strong hurtful language towards them. The term "Faggot" as defined by Urban Dictionary (a reputable source for understanding slang in the context of our society defines "faggot" as "Faggot: In these times not really used if somebody is really a homosexual mostly used insteap of calling somebody stupid or a loser"

I understand the hate the word has. Images of WASP's shouting the word, using sexuality and gender based slurs towards LGBT boys and girls throughout middle America. I mean, come on. I would feel the same way if someone said to me "HEY YOU'RE A NIGGER" because I'm black. right? sheesh.

But still, I'll use the social definition in insulting someone. Anyone who hazes is a faggot. Someone who is of low ilk. A loser. A man with little character or integrity. Fuck those motherfuckers.

2. "Buncha Poofs". This term is a little older and less used. Gay males are called "poofs". Gay men are also effeminate. At least some of them are. Therefore, I'm calling Alpha Symphony Music Maker whoevers a bunch of Pussy ass womanly bitches. I just don't think a social fraternity should specialize in one thing aka music. Just my own two cents.

3. I won't be around here much longer, I'm clearly not wanted. I don't want to sully the name either.

Thanks for listening. I know its offensive. That's why I said it

Quoted for assholery.

Too late, name sullied.

Lafayette79 12-15-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2011664)
There's a difference between "I love my org and can't see myself anywhere else" and "screw everyone that's not XYZ"

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012170)
I didn't say "screw everyone thats not xyz" I said fuck a number of specific GLO's at my school.

I've seen many posts of people saying that they spit out some coffee at work because of a crazy post, but I just sent some very nice brandy (literally) onto my screen because of PD's reply to KS. "I didn't say screw 'em, I said f**k 'em."

ScarletBlueGold 12-16-2010 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012299)
lol thanks. i'm not trying to get attention though

Jesus. I would hate to see what it would look like if you were...

DrPhil 12-16-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012299)
lol thanks. i'm not trying to get attention though

There's nothing to thank me for. You are trying to get attention. Nothing new under the sun.

MysticCat 12-16-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012299)
lol thanks. i'm not trying to get attention though

Pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012205)
2. "Buncha Poofs". This term is a little older and less used. Gay males are called "poofs". Gay men are also effeminate. At least some of them are. Therefore, I'm calling Alpha Symphony Music Maker whoevers a bunch of Pussy ass womanly bitches. I just don't think a social fraternity should specialize in one thing aka music. Just my own two cents.

Well, I feel put in my place now. Or at least I would, if the insults weren't coming from someone with the maturity of a third grader. (My apologies to actual third graders with more maturity than Phi_Delta.)

We all know what two cents is worth these days.

Sidetrack:
I am reminded of one of the many stories of the English conductor and impresario, Sir Thomas Beecham. (My favorite of those stories is the statement he is said to have made to a female cello soloist in rehearsal one day: "Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands, and all you can do is scratch it!"

Supposedly, Sir Thomas was walking down the streets of London one day when a public service worker pointed at him and said to his co-workers "Look 'ere, mates! 'Ere goes a fairy!" Sir Thomas lifted his umbrella (being a proper Englishman, he always had an umbrella), pointed it at the man and said, "Poof! Disappear!"
/sidetrack

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3. I won't be around here much longer, I'm clearly not wanted. I don't want to sully the name either.
Too late for sullying the name, which I really don't think you care about.

As for not being around here much longer . . . promises, promises.

DrPhil 12-16-2010 12:14 PM

FLOUNCE.

DrPhil 12-16-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012474)
well, I'll say this as a parting thought.

On the internet, you're covered by a shroud of invisibility. You can truly be whoever you want. So I take what I learn, hear, and experience on forums with a grain of salt because I don't judge someone before I meet them in person. They could be a completely different person off-line, you know?

So I'm leaving so I don't harm the good name of my chapter any longer. My words here (and my trolling, because there have been very few heartfelt, serious, posts) were my own and I shouldn't be using a name that links the others to this bullshit.

Thanks guys and good luck in your future endeavors.

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.c...6/flounce2.jpg

He shall be back as a new username and a new Internet personality soon. :)

Drolefille 12-16-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012474)
well, I'll say this as a parting thought.

On the internet, you're covered by a shroud of invisibility. You can truly be whoever you want. So I take what I learn, hear, and experience on forums with a grain of salt because I don't judge someone before I meet them in person. They could be a completely different person off-line, you know?

So I'm leaving so I don't harm the good name of my chapter any longer. My words here (and my trolling, because there have been very few heartfelt, serious, posts) were my own and I shouldn't be using a name that links the others to this bullshit.

Thanks guys and good luck in your future endeavors.


I really see no reason to give you the benefit of the doubt. "Lol just trolling" is an incredibly pathetic response.
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/2...5k38846363.jpg

ree-Xi 12-17-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2012478)

I almost choked on my Apple Jacks. Quiet literally (and I know that some people hate the word "literally". But it got stuck in my throat when I laughed and saw this picture. He really is a dapper horse!

BluPhire 12-17-2010 03:55 PM

This thread is a lesson to check all threads regardless of if you think it will interest you.

PiKA2001 12-17-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 2012610)
This thread is a lesson to check all threads regardless of if you think it will interest you.

Any Greek Life or Recruitment (non story) thread that is more than three pages long and started by a new poster has a 80% chance of troll, hijack, or general Tom Foolery.

Drolefille 12-17-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2012607)
I almost choked on my Apple Jacks. Quiet literally (and I know that some people hate the word "literally". But it got stuck in my throat when I laughed and saw this picture. He really is a dapper horse!

It's the monocle that sells it.

KSig RC 12-17-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2012619)
It's the monocle that sells it.

Totally - the little things are perfect and gave me the irrational giggles, very similar to my favorite animal macro (the anteater suite).

ScarletBlueGold 12-19-2010 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2012205)
3. I won't be around here much longer, I'm clearly not wanted. I don't want to sully the name either.

It's so odd. As a Masters Student pursuing a degree in Organizational Behavior, I would really like to get to the bottom of this mystery. Why are you "clearly not wanted".

This is just a hunch I'm working with, but stay with me. I think that the level of animosity people express toward you might directly be related to how often and vigorously you tell people to "go fuck themselves".

To test this, I have recently started going to public places and telling people to "go fuck themselves". Shockingly, 100% of the people responded with animosity toward me.

No further experimentation is planned.

DrPhil 12-22-2010 11:40 AM

I guess Phi_Delta changed his mind about his flounce and brought his Big (other personality) with him.

Drolefille 12-22-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2013817)
I guess Phi_Delta changed his mind about his flounce and brought his Big (other personality) with him.

He's totally NOT 408 guys. Not at ALL.

DrPhil 12-22-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2013820)
He's totally NOT 408 guys. Not at ALL.

Yeah, that's his Big.

DrPhil 12-22-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Phi_Delta (Post 2013825)
lol don't believe me? fuck it who cares

De-flouncer.

Drolefille 12-22-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2013827)
Yeah, that's his Big.

I see the family resemblance.


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