Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2009895)

This is discouraging if it proves to be true.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...-lsd-pot-ring/

NEW YORK — Five Columbia University students were charged Tuesday with selling LSD-spiked candy and other drugs at three fraternity houses and other residences on the Ivy League campus, with two allegedly claiming they needed the drug money to cover tuition.

Originally Posted by SOM (Post 2009897)

All too true Ghostwriter.
You may wish, if you have not yet done so, review thread on this story:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=117272

Originally Posted by oldu (Post 2012723)

There is an extensive article in today's (12/18) NY Times about this situation.

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2012777)

...its really disappointing to be called out for trolling, when its my honest opinion. I'm greek. I do drugs. When I see drug busts amongst people my age, I lament.

I think the accused did a number of things wrong in this situation. They shouldn't of sold out of the house, that was the big problem. They probably should done a little more background on the undercover they sold to. I think it also would of been prudent to stay away from cocaine since that can really incite police involvement. I do think its interesting though, the times article stated that different houses specialized in different types of drugs. I thought that was pretty cool.

Regardless, I think the larger point here isn't that they were Greek but that they went to an Upper-Elite institution and its uncommon to see such a large bust at such an institution. Pretty captivating story if you ask me

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013263)

Warning: Long Post

I'm seriously not. I am very supportive of drug policy reform. In my opinion, the war on drugs wastes billions of dollars every year. That money would be well spent on other policy initiatives. I feel that some drugs (read: the majority of) should be made legal for a number of reasons. Primarily, I believe that drug use is a personal choice. It should be treated in a similar manner as alcohol and tobacco products.

It does cost the government financially when they have to take care of individuals who make poor decisions as a result of drug abuse and misuse. However, legalizing the substances and then fighting the ill effects of drugs from a harm reduction stand point would be a preventive measure which allows the government to recoup their spending over time. Additionally, if illegal substances are treated like alcohol and tobacco then the taxation on drugs would rake in millions upon millions of dollars

While it would be hectic at first, I really think that legalizing drugs is beneficial in the long run. State and local governments are in a serious deficit crises all across America. A fraction of the profits earned from illegal drug taxation would go a long way towards improving public schools, funding government pension programs (which are going to the shitter btw) and expanding public works programs.

I watched 60 minutes the other night and Gov. Chris Cristie of New Jersey went into detail on his state's budget crises. There simply isn't enough money to pay for all the things they have allocated money for. Governmental profits off of illegal drugs can stimulate the economy.

Additionally, it would help ease the tensions on the border where drug cartels are waging war with DEA agents, The Mexican army, and with each other.

Of course, there are limitations to this plan. The immediate impact of these drugs on the market would certainly negatively impact many Americans. But again, over time and by using harm reduction we can negate these effects.

This plan will never happen though. Its politically impossible and lobbyists from Big Tobacco and Big Alcohol would never allow it because substances like marijuana would dent their profit margin.

Honestly The only problem I have are the students linking the drug organization to their chapters. I see no reason to be discouraged about college students selling drugs when the actual Government is wasting billions of dollars every year trying to stop them.

I would like to note, though, that they should of been more careful in the situation. Five months is not a long time.

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013277)

I don't understand the point of this post. I was discussing a topic relating to the thread on a forum. Anonymity is part of the process.

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013299)

I don't do many drugs, only marijuana and study drugs when I'm in a tight spot. Drugs haven't warped my decisions or effected my stance on this issue at all.

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013299)

Its about autonomy and money. I'd feel the same way about any issue that was intrinsically related to both of those

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013277)

I don't understand the point of this post. I was discussing a topic relating to the thread on a forum. Anonymity is part of the process.

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013305)

Phi - Delta, UMBC

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013310)

I'm arguing that the government needs to seize control of the drug industry via regulations and taxation, much like they control alcohol and tobacco. I think a better example is over the counter medication. In the scenario I'm imagining drugs would be in the same position as Tylenol and Robitussin

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013310)

I certainly do think about what I put in my body as well lol, I'm not stupid. There is a reason I've stayed away from substances like cocaine, heroin, lsd, and the like.

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013324)

lol that's perfectly fine? I'm entitled to my own opinions. We do nothing wrong and we do nothing that nationals wouldn't approve of.

I have nothing to hide

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013324)

lol that's perfectly fine? I'm entitled to my own opinions. We do nothing wrong and we do nothing that nationals wouldn't approve of.

I have nothing to hide

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013332)

You have the freedom to do what you want in the privacy of your own home to your own body without reprimand. Once you push that on others, then there are problems

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2013337)

Are you pretending as though people who use illicit drugs are doing so in the privacy of their own homes and not impacting others? Have you even heard what's going on with "study drugs?"

Originally Posted by 408 (Post 2013350)

First of all, there is no way to prove that I (or anyone else for that matter) used illegal substances. At this point, its all hearsay and accusations. It has no place here. Don't accuse me of things you can't prove.

Second of all, I never said I was "too good" to be influenced by one of the most addictive and deadly substances on earth. If one were to think that he would be the biggest bullshitter in the world and lying to himself. I understand and know my limits.

Third, I'm sure that any chapter of any GLO has members who use illegal substances. While, I made a mistake offering my identity, my chapter as a whole has done nothing illegal in nature and I help make sure of that. I was simply clarifying that all of our chapter activities are by national standard. Events such as the ones which occurred at Columbia or at the Towson University chapter of LXA are disrespectful and wrong. It is completely inappropriate to mix your chapter with illegal drugs and I have said this many times. What you do on your own time, away from the GLO is your own business.

"Lambs go to slaughter, A man he learns to walk away." that's what I'm doing.