My Formal Apology.
 

To everyone I have make rude, inappropriate, uncalled for, and immature comments to I would like to formally apoligize. I took my frustrations out on the wrong things. I sent out a few PM's but this is to/for everyone. So, I took a few days to cool down and realize I was in the wrong. I take full responsibility for my comments and internet actions so again my sincerest apology. I want nothing more than to take part in the sorority experience to complete my college career like the rest of you ladies. I look up to you ladies for advice and such since you all have been through it. Thank you for the helpful advice so far.. it has sunk in and I fully understand it.

I hope you all can forgive me. :(

I don't have a dog in this hunt, but a sincere apology is a sincere form of maturity. Hope it's recognized for what it is, SamanthaBay.

Or this is a message board and apologizing or not apologizing says nothing about someone's maturity. Also, I'm sure she realizes that she shared too much info and is too identifiable to not apologize. LOL.

Good luck in all of your endeavors, SamanthaBay, I'm not at ya. :)

No hard feelings, we agree to disagree. :) Although I still dont feel I shared too much information about myself just my personal opinion (Im not getting defensive, promise!) Tech is not set in stone just yet nor are my decisions to rush.

Youre right its a message board and apology or not, identifiable, anonymous or not, I believe in karma and felt I should apoligize about the situation in general. You all know more than I do about greek life so Im taking your word for it.

:)

I knew she didn't get it. LOL. And smiley faces don't change anything.

Hah, you're right I didnt get it.

They might not help but they cant hurt I suppose.

SamanthaBay, I have no idea what will happen with your recruitment but I do want to tell you about a young lady who came on this board last spring with a story similar to yours. She had lived in Europe because of her father's work and therefore was not a typical college age. She was 21 or 22, I believe, but was a sophomore classification. As luck would have it, she contacted the Houston Panhellenic, which was her hometown before she went overseas and they worked with her finding references. She pledged a very fine group at LSU this fall. So, yes it is possible. Just follow through with what you've been advised to do and who knows, it may happen for you. Good Luck!

However, that PNM followed the advice given and was very gracious. She did not leave a trail of nastiness and mayhem on the internet then come back to apologize only when she realized we were right about her being easily identifiable.

Sam, you really need to stop. Trust.

Alright LadyLonghorn. Like I said, I felt bad so I tried. :/

Thanks JustInterested. That makes me feel better about the age issue.

I'm glad you took a breather and calmed down.

Read some of the old recruitment threads. There's a lot of info.

Good luck.

You did not share too much information about yourself, but you shared very unique and easily identifiable information about yourself.

If you do go to TX Tech, or anywhere for that matter, there will not be a lot of 22 year olds who lived in Spain, and will have recs from the Dallas area, with the volunteer activities you mentioned.

Trust the sorority women on this board when they say that during recruitment it will be easy to connect the dots.

I've also read a really sad outcome on a recruitment for a Florida school. The young lady came here, not as bad as you ;), but she did have some issues and people figured out who she was. Well, she tried recruitment at her first FL school and it did not go well. She actually transferred schools and had a bad outcome there too.

So, it can go either way.


Yeah, I don't think you still "get it" either.

Hopefully in time, as you read through the recommended threads and as you are preparing for recruitment, you will eventually "get it".

If I'm thinking of the same person, she was way worse over a much longer period of time.

To be honest, I don't think this is THAT big of a deal. It isn't like she came in here and said that our mothers were hamsters and fathers smelt like elderberries. Were she going through recruitment at my school I certainly wouldn't find her to be some sort of pariah just for this if she were otherwise a desirable PNM. Samantha, I suggest you just stick to lurking to gather information from now on. You've said your peace, but unfortunately you won't be able to shake your first couple of threads. By all means continue to use the search function because there are many threads that can answer any questions you might have...but I suggest you just keep quiet.

Alumiyum, you haven't been around here for a long time.

Trust me when I say that over the years that I've been on GC, I've seen PNMs who post with the wrong attitude, and in the end they did not have a good recruitment outcome.

Was it fair? Was it right? Who knows.


As for SamanthaBay in particular I feel that what she has shown of herself on GC she would have revealed during her recruitment. If NPC members and others can figure out how she is by just a few posts, then imagine how bad her recruitment could be in person.

I think we are trying to save her from herself. It does not seem to be working.....

I've been around long enough to know that sometimes people behave very differently on the internet than they would in real life, including many long time posters (at least I sure as hell hope that's the case). I'm just stating that I personally cannot see why it's such a big deal, and that she can very well be a wonderful addition to the Greek community.

That being said, as I advised earlier, I do think she should stop posting and just become a reader.

All I'm saying is that I've read some negative recruitment outcomes, presumably, based on the way PNMs have approached sorority members on GC. There seems to be a correlation between bad attitude on GC and the PNM not getting a bid, even in COB/COR. It is not a hard and fast rule, just a correlation.

And while it may not be a big deal to you Alumiyum, which is fine, it is a big deal to some. Just as you want people to respect your perspective on the situation, you need to realize that there are more ways people view it than you.

For me personally, as SigmaDiva, no, it would probably not be a big deal to me either. But, if you read SamathaBay's comments and some of the responses the GC regulars gave her, it was apparent that she said some very nasty things to people in a PM. So, while she may not have come across too bad on the board, I gathered that she said some nasty things "behind" the board. It's that stuff that people remember and talk about, and can hurt the PNMs chances.

The point is I apologized regardless of this being a message board or not we are all still human. I admitted to my mistakes, my wrong doings. I may or may not rush, and I may or may not go to Tech. And like I said before, some previous comments I had recieved I felt they were rude as well...that was just my personal connotation. I know half of you wont believe this but half of what I said about my past isn't 100% acurate. Now I will be 100% honest IF and thats a big IF I decide to rush but this is the internet, you never know who youre talking to.

SigmaDiva, that apology extends to you to and to everyone I offended and make comments to.

LOL. I didn't find her posts offensive. They were humorous. Aspirants who want to go toe-to-toe with GLO members are always funny to me so this really isn't about the OP.

I tell aspirants off of the Internet that they will come across GLO members who are rude (or SEEM to be rude/are interpreted as rude). Interacting with standoffish or rude members happened to me as an aspirant (and this was face-to-face interaction because these message boards either didn't exist back then or were essentially black screens with green letters). You're the aspirant and they are the member so, unless they are demeaning you as a human and you can't get over it, get over it. Trying to go toe-to-toe and concluding with "now I don't want to be a member...SO THERE" is dumb whether you're typing on Greekchat or in person. I see Greekchat as some level of practice for these Internet Generation aspirants who have yet to have substantial face-to-face interaction with Greeks, which is usually why PNMs (NPC and NIC) tend to come to GC in the first place. I don't know whether they can ignore it in person if they can't ignore it on GC, since they needed to come to GC to get their questions answers (unlike others who are surrounded by real life Greeks to talk to).

(Back) Paddle faster, I still hear banjo music.

LOL @ the bolded. The more you explain, the more it is what it is. I probably would've just apologized and moved on. GCers will take it for what they will and this convo can go on and on and on with or without you.

DrPhil- Youre correct. I'm not surrounded by greeks. I mean I have a few I could turn to to answer any questions I might have but I feel they would be bias because of their affiliation. Sure they went through the whole process but I dont live close enough to my top 2 schools to get advice from real life members hahah. I feel this is a great place to turn for those who dont have the right people available for reference.

YBITY?

C'est la vie.

Why is this still going?

Because I keep egging it on, therefore I'm done.

For real.

I am now officially just a lurker. :)

*headdesk*

qfp.

Hey - DrPhil....she DOES get it. Well, until her next official flounce. :(

And she has yet to acknowledge that while she didn't put "TMI" out there in terms of stalkers/personal safety, she did give enough info to make herself easily identifiable during rush. Even if half of us don't believe that half of it wasn't true.

This reminds me of that "I'm responding because you are choosing to engage me!" thread from a while back.

I was not offended! :D

I get it and have never even implied that it's my way or the high way, but my perspective is that if I were still active and expected every PNM to act with grace and maturity I'd be sorely disappointed. Especially since, as I said, it's not exactly uncommon for people to behave very differently on the internet than they will in person.

1. I never said you said this.

2. This is what I said. From your perspective, it may not be all that bad. From someone else's perspective it may be.

From the NPHC perspective it is a big NO-NO to even attempt to ask about membership selection concerning our orgs on the internet. We don't even entertain such questions. When they do occur, the mod for that NPHC org will lock the thread before it can go on.

From an NPC perspective, asking about MS is tolerated if the PNM asks in what a NPC member would consider polite and respectful, otherwise, we get what we just had.

So again, it is different for different people / chapters / orgs. We all just need to recognize and respect that.

You're only making that judgment based on public posts. A whole lot more happened in unsolicited PMs.

I'm confident that those who are in a position to make future decisions will make the right ones for their organizations. That's all I'm going to say about it.

I understand that but I do not feel any differently unless she made threats or went batshit crazy. Calling someone an asshole or similar because they're rude to you on a messageboard isn't really the end of the world. Like I said, were I an active and expecting every PNM to be mature and graceful under all circumstances, I'd be sorely disappointed. Most adults aren't those things a lot of the time, either. Most especially on the internet.

I inferred that from your response to me. It's a fact that different councils work differently, but in this case she was asking about NPC sororities, and I never saw her ask for membership selection details, so I'm confused as to why that has been brought up.

My giving my opinion is does not equate to disrespecting others' just because I disagree with them.

Samantha, normally I'm a peace/love/granola type, but I just read your original post on the other thread, and it's a howler. If you had indeed "read this website front and back" as you claimed, then you would have known a number of things, the least of which are: a) yes, there are members on here who are "remotely familiar with the Texas Tech recruitment process," b) the best way to get recs in the Dallas area, and finally c) that not everyone here is so "helpful and friendly." ;)

Seriously, read more, post less.

As for your lack of knowledge about how people can be traced over the internet, it's scary. Ridiculous amounts of information have been found out about people who gave far fewer identifying details than you did.

*reads relevant thread*

yup. that shit was ratchet indeed. i so don't believe that the OP read the website front to back either. if she did, then that's a serious comprehension fail.