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naomi19 10-18-2010 10:33 PM

hello everyone
 
Hi everyone
my name is naomi and i am so excited to start my research in preparation for pledging myself to a greek sisterhood. i did have a few questions, just so that I'm not going in, in the dark, and hopefully somebody could answer them for me, and one day i can answer somebody elses questions.

naomi19 10-18-2010 10:34 PM

ok my first question is, what is the significance of the number worn on the jackets of the sororities and fraternities.

knight_shadow 10-18-2010 10:38 PM

That's the least of your worries.

Browse the forums to learn about the different organizations and councils. If you're familiar with line jackets, you won't be getting membership questions here. You'll need to talk to members of the organization you're interested in.

AZTheta 10-18-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by naomi19 (Post 1995544)
Hi everyone
my name is naomi and i am so excited to start my research in preparation for pledging myself to a greek sisterhood. i did have a few questions, just so that I'm not going in, in the dark, and hopefully somebody could answer them for me, and one day i can answer somebody elses questions.

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Originally Posted by naomi19 (Post 1995545)
ok my first question is, what is the significance of the number worn on the jackets of the sororities and fraternities.

For clarification: are you asking about an NPC or an NPHC organization?

You might try using the "search" function here and then come back with your questions.

knight_shadow 10-18-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 1995548)
For clarification: are you asking about an NPC or an NPHC organization?

You might try using the "search" function here and then come back with your questions.

The second post suggests that it's a non-NPC.

dreamseeker 10-18-2010 10:48 PM

lolz

DrPhil 10-18-2010 10:58 PM

Some of you all can be so condescending in refusing to answer questions.

naomi19, the numbers on the back of the jackets and shirts are a tracking device that some sororities and fraternities use to track members. They also use cards with membership numbers and are moving toward tattoos behind members' ears or chips inside their shoulders. This is also how they know which members are hazing and should be placed on disciplinary action.

Since you will become a member post-2010, you will likely have a chip on your shoulder.

Angelicqt716 10-18-2010 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1995555)
Since you will become a member post-2010, you will likely have a chip on your shoulder.

LOL, I love it! Assuming she'll even become a member.

dreamseeker 10-19-2010 01:45 AM

i broke my tracking device

#renegade

MysticCat 10-19-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1995555)
Some of you all can be so condescending in refusing to answer questions.

naomi19, the numbers on the back of the jackets and shirts are a tracking device that some sororities and fraternities use to track members. They also use cards with membership numbers and are moving toward tattoos behind members' ears or chips inside their shoulders. This is also how they know which members are hazing and should be placed on disciplinary action.

Since you will become a member post-2010, you will likely have a chip on your shoulder.

You have been so helpful lately. It's just so great to see this side of you. ;)

DrPhil 10-19-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1995654)
You have been so helpful lately. It's just so great to see this side of you. ;)

I feel as though this will right all of my GC wrongs. Lord help me.

DubaiSis 10-19-2010 09:41 AM

Naomi, all kidding aside, you have some serious research to do. If you are already in college, start by looking at your school's Greek website. If you are still in high school, you might check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...llenic_Council for a little info on the traditionally black sororities, http://www.npcwomen.org/ for the traditionally white sororities, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultura...and_sororities for a mixed bag of other, including Asian, Hispanic, Gay & Lesbian, etc.
And then there's the service and professional fraternities...

This is why people started the jokes right away. Your question was far and away too vague. The jackets, as far as I know, are just the NPHC sororities, but if you're asking about sororities, I'd think you mean the historically white sororities, because that's my reality. When you have a smidge more information, come back and then maybe we can help you, but remember, all of these are secret societies so there is a lot of stuff we can't/won't divulge or explain.

DrPhil 10-19-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 1995674)
This is why people started the jokes right away. Your question was far and away too vague.

No.

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 1995674)
...but if you're asking about sororities, I'd think you mean the historically white sororities, because that's my reality.

This is a very very very strange statement.

AlphaFrog 10-19-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 1995674)
Naomi, all kidding aside, you have some serious research to do. If you are already in college, start by looking at your school's Greek website. If you are still in high school, you might check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...llenic_Council for a little info on the traditionally black sororities, http://www.npcwomen.org/ for the traditionally white sororities, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultura...and_sororities for a mixed bag of other, including Asian, Hispanic, Gay & Lesbian, etc.
And then there's the service and professional fraternities...

This is why people started the jokes right away. Your question was far and away too vague. The jackets, as far as I know, are just the NPHC sororities, but if you're asking about sororities, I'd think you mean the historically white sororities, because that's my reality. When you have a smidge more information, come back and then maybe we can help you, but remember, all of these are secret societies so there is a lot of stuff we can't/won't divulge or explain.

Really? We can't just call them NPCs?

DrPhil 10-19-2010 09:59 AM

That topic again?

NPCs are often called "historically white sororities" in the same manner that NPHC sororities are often called "historically Black sororities."

Some people will like it and others will not.

MysticCat 10-19-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 1995674)
This is why people started the jokes right away. Your question was far and away too vague. The jackets, as far as I know, are just the NPHC sororities, but if you're asking about sororities, I'd think you mean the historically white sororities, because that's my reality.

Her question wasn't vague at all -- context shouts NPHC, or at least non-NPC sororities.

The problem isn't that the question was vague. The problem was that she has a lot more important things to be researching than what the numbers on line jackets mean. And the other problem is that, based on what NPHCers have said over and over, this isn't the place to be doing that research. That's why the jokes started.

DrPhil 10-19-2010 10:05 AM

Yeah people who are interested in NPC and NIC tend not to ask about line jackets. That's usually one of the first things a superclueless NPHC/MCGLO/LGLO interest asks.

AlphaFrog 10-19-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1995680)
That topic again?

NPCs are often called "historically white sororities" in the same manner that NPHC sororities are often called "historically Black sororities."

Some people will like it and others will not.

It's not the same manner....the NPHC are and choose to identify themselves that way. Not so with NPC.

Besides, I expect this kind of stuff coming from you, but not from her. NPCers should be trying NOT to identify this way.

DrPhil 10-19-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1995685)
It's not the same manner....the NPHC are and choose to identify themselves that way. Not so with NPC.

Choice or chance, still "historically white sororities."

rhoyaltempest 10-19-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1995555)
Some of you all can be so condescending in refusing to answer questions.

naomi19, the numbers on the back of the jackets and shirts are a tracking device that some sororities and fraternities use to track members. They also use cards with membership numbers and are moving toward tattoos behind members' ears or chips inside their shoulders. This is also how they know which members are hazing and should be placed on disciplinary action.

Since you will become a member post-2010, you will likely have a chip on your shoulder.

I am soooo through with you.

rhoyaltempest 10-19-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 1995674)
Naomi, all kidding aside, you have some serious research to do. If you are already in college, start by looking at your school's Greek website. If you are still in high school, you might check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...llenic_Council for a little info on the traditionally black sororities, http://www.npcwomen.org/ for the traditionally white sororities, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultura...and_sororities for a mixed bag of other, including Asian, Hispanic, Gay & Lesbian, etc.
And then there's the service and professional fraternities...

This is why people started the jokes right away. Your question was far and away too vague. The jackets, as far as I know, are just the NPHC sororities, but if you're asking about sororities, I'd think you mean the historically white sororities, because that's my reality. When you have a smidge more information, come back and then maybe we can help you, but remember, all of these are secret societies so there is a lot of stuff we can't/won't divulge or explain.

We are not secret societies. Why do we keep saying this?

rhoyaltempest 10-19-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1995685)
It's not the same manner....the NPHC are and choose to identify themselves that way. Not so with NPC.

Besides, I expect this kind of stuff coming from you, but not from her. NPCers should be trying NOT to identify this way.

So the NPC are not historically white? Just trying to understand why this is such an issue. For example, I personally don't like being called a "Black Greek" but I know that some people say this and mean it as short for "member of a Black Greek Letter Organization" or even "Black member of a Greek Letter Organization." Either way, even though I don't like it, I can't change the fact that it's true.

AlphaFrog 10-19-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1995789)
So the NPC are not historically white? Just trying to understand why this is such an issue. For example, I personally don't like being called a "Black Greek" but I know that some people say this and mean it as short for "member of a Black Greek Letter Organization" or even "Black member of a Greek Letter Organization." Either way, even though I don't like it, I can't change the fact that it's true.

Just because it's historically accurate, doesn't make it an appropriate label, ESPECIALLY for a member to use. Many of y'all would throw fits if someone referred to an African American as a Historically Enslaved Person, even though it's historically accurate.

DrPhil 10-19-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1995792)
Many of y'all would throw fits if someone referred to an African American as a Historically Enslaved Person

Dumb attempt at an analogy but there are instances where African Americans are called historically enslaved populations; and in some literature sentences sometimes begin with "historically enslaved populations."

knight_shadow 10-19-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1995792)
Just because it's historically accurate, doesn't make it an appropriate label, ESPECIALLY for a member to use. Many of y'all would throw fits if someone referred to an African American as a Historically Enslaved Person, even though it's historically accurate.

No.

I've never been enslaved, so that term would be inappropriate.

The majority of the NIC and NPC organizations are predominately AND historically white, though.

DrPhil 10-19-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1995801)
No.

I've never been enslaved, so that term would be inappropriate.

"Historically."

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1995801)
The majority of the NIC and NPC organizations are predominately AND historically white, though.

To AlphaFrog's credit, Dubai's post was random and her reference to historically white sororities was true but she could've said "NPC" for the topic. At the same time, we could be typing about apples and orange juice and NPHC orgs would still often be called "historically Black sororities and fraternities" and most people would not care either way.

rhoyaltempest 10-19-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1995792)
Just because it's historically accurate, doesn't make it an appropriate label, ESPECIALLY for a member to use. Many of y'all would throw fits if someone referred to an African American as a Historically Enslaved Person, even though it's historically accurate.

WOW. You "tried" to go there all because you don't want your org to be called historically white? Really? You might want to explore why. I'm serious.

knight_shadow 10-19-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1995804)
"Historically."

I know what she was trying to say. "African Americans" could be historically enslaved. "knight_shadow" cannot.

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To AlphaFrog's credit, Dubai's post was random and her reference to historically white sororities was true but she could've said "NPC" for the topic. At the same time, we could be typing about apples and orange juice and NPHC orgs would still often be called "historically Black sororities and fraternities" and most people would not care either way.
Right.

DrPhil 10-19-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1995805)
You might want to explore why.

White privilege.

DrPhil 10-19-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1995807)
I know what she was trying to say. "African Americans" could be historically enslaved. "knight_shadow" cannot.

LOL. There I go trying to give AlphaFrog the benefit of the doubt. I have no idea why. LOL.

rhoyaltempest 10-19-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1995810)
White privilege.

Yes, I think that's it as well. It hit me after I posted. We are proud to be historically Black orgs because of our history. Either way, I don't think it's something to get mad over but then I'm not in a non-historically Black org to say.

jholtrod 10-19-2010 04:48 PM

cool

DrPhil 10-19-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1995814)
Yes, I think that's it as well. It hit me after I posted. We are proud to be historically Black orgs because of our history. Either way, I don't think it's something to get mad over but then I'm not in a non-historically Black org to say.

Also, "historically white sororities" has a negative connotation to some GCers. But to many of us it is not inherently negative. We're just stating what we consider to be obvious.



:D Unless we're blaming white folks for discrimination and social exclusion that impacted college enrollment and GLO membership. :p


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