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PrettyKitty 11-07-2001 03:38 PM

The Air around GC-All are welcome to respond
 
Is it me, or does there seem to be some stale air around GC among the BGLO sororities? I mean outside of the general playful jab here and there...some of the stuff that I have been reading is sickening.

When I first started posting on here, it seemed to be a friendly air about us...but unfortunately I feel that that's gone by the wayside.


What are your thoughts?

SoTrue1920 11-07-2001 03:46 PM

Soror, I think it goes in cycles. I can't speak for all areas of GC, but I have noticed that as of late that people seem to be a bit more "fractious" than usual.

It's interesting....the media tells us that people are feeling more together, more like a nation as a result of the events on 9.11, but we come here on GC, where people have relative anonymity, and they show ALL their colours. We can put on a smiley face as much as we want, but until people change what's in their hearts, I'm afraid it'll just be the same old same old.

Special1920 11-07-2001 05:38 PM

YES!
 
I've only been here a minute, but the climate has changed some.
Things use to be said with respect to each organization, but as of late, seems like that respect has blown out of the door. Can the reason be a possible younger group posting, or maybe it's something else, I can't say. But the only posts I find unnerving comes from a woman my age(35) in another forum, so I rarely reply to her many posts a day.

DOVE1920 11-07-2001 06:24 PM

Now what?
 
Is there something that we can do collectively to change this atmosphere? Is it up to us when we read something disrespectful to comment or leave the sororities in their ignorance? If anything disrespecting another org on a public forum doesn't represent your sorority in a positive light. At least I can always count on truth and sophistication in this forum!:D

Six_Three_Sigma 11-07-2001 06:32 PM

Hello Sorors,

I have not posted that often since joing, but I have read a lot of the posts over the course of these few months. I must say that i has become progressively nastier in most of the forums. Since these people have anonymity here, it's hard to say whether the people are all greek (or not) unless they "tell" you outright.

Why these people are so nasty in a forum that was (I am assuming this one) set up to allow GLOs of all sorts to coexist and interact in a cordial manner. I mean some of the posts that I have seen are so nasty and tactless that it makes you wonder what's wrong with these people on the inside. I mean what's the deal with the personal attacks on people? These are probably the most unnerving posts that I have seen considering the fact that MOST of these people do NOT know each other from anywhere but this site.

Sadly, as was mentioned by someone else, this sort of behavior will continue until the hearts of people change.

Six_Three_Sigma

SoTrue1920 11-07-2001 06:57 PM

Re: Now what?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DOVE1920
Is there something that we can do collectively to change this atmosphere? Is it up to us when we read something disrespectful to comment or leave the sororities in their ignorance? If anything disrespecting another org on a public forum doesn't represent your sorority in a positive light. At least I can always count on truth and sophistication in this forum!:D
Short of not rising to the blatant baiting that I've seen in other forums, I can't think of anything else.

Something else... has anyone noticed that people are reluctant to correct their own sorors/bruhs in public forums? Not that any of my sorors need correction, seeing as how we're the embodiment Finer Womanhood :D, but I've been on other forums where I've seen members who cast a very negative light on the organization as a whole, and no one seems to say anything about it. I'm not saying put everyone's business out on the street, but no one even challenges it.

pebbles_6 11-07-2001 07:28 PM

I don't believe that any one forum is void of arrogance, rude undertones or trivalities any more or less than the other. Every one greek on these boards (not just BGLOs) gets "on edge" whenever something is taken as a slight towards our organizations. We all have our own reasons for joining our respective sororities/frats, so we tend to get prideful in our comments and statements. When in actuality, none of us are official spokespersons for our orgs. Yes, we're all entitled to our opinions, but at the same time, people try to force and impose THEIR views as law. Bonds here/P&G there/Luv this and that. Those are all interesting topics to me, but not to the point that I would argue, especially with someone from ANOTHER organization about. I know where my heart is and I know what I believe and see in MY world. That's always going to be different than someone else's view. So be it. I believe most of us come to these boards to share our views, not start drama...It just seems to me that most people lose sight that all BGLOs exist to serve our community at large. And our beginnings may differ by year, colors etc, but our our end goals are ultimately the same. A better community. Different paths are going to chosen by each individual, and my heart will always lie with Delta, but I find comfort in believing that most people chose their respective sororities/fraternities to better the communities. And in the end, that's all good with me, no matter what is said on these boards.

Pebbles #6
Delta Sigma Theta
G.E.A.A.C
Spr. '01

novella000 11-08-2001 12:01 AM

WOW
 
I am sure you don't need my comments on this topic -- but I did wanna say you guys sure have had a lot of activity in this forum lately... Keep it up. Interesting threads!!! WOW :cool:

Special1920 11-08-2001 12:11 AM

Re: Re: Now what?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SoTrue1920


Short of not rising to the blatant baiting that I've seen in other forums, I can't think of anything else.

Something else... has anyone noticed that people are reluctant to correct their own sorors/bruhs in public forums? Not that any of my sorors need correction, seeing as how we're the embodiment Finer Womanhood :D, but I've been on other forums where I've seen members who cast a very negative light on the organization as a whole, and no one seems to say anything about it. I'm not saying put everyone's business out on the street, but no one even challenges it.

Yes, I've seen this. I would always try to pull a sorors coat tail in a private email, if I feel they are wrong. But what I won't do is encourage their behavior or side with them if it goes against what in my opinion is right and wrong. I seen a interest stand-up for herself on one board to a member of that organiZation, and the poor chile was attacked. And in my opinion the interest was right, but her problem was "She spoke out of LINE" I guess in there eyes.

kizzie22 11-08-2001 10:48 AM

Re: Re: Re: Now what?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Special1920
I seen a interest stand-up for herself on one board to a member of that organiZation, and the poor chile was attacked. And in my opinion the interest was right, but her problem was "She spoke out of LINE" I guess in there eyes.
I saw that post that you are refering too. But people have to realize that interests read these posts and it doesn't take much to change an interest mind... It really makes an org look bad.

MIDWESTDIVA 11-08-2001 02:46 PM

Re: Re: Re: Now what?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Special1920
Yes, I've seen this. I would always try to pull a sorors coat tail in a private email, if I feel they are wrong. But what I won't do is encourage their behavior or side with them if it goes against what in my opinion is right and wrong. I seen a interest stand-up for herself on one board to a member of that organiZation, and the poor chile was attacked. And in my opinion the interest was right, but her problem was "She spoke out of LINE" I guess in there eyes.
Tis true, my tone was rather harsh. The warm and fuzzy approach doesn't always get the point across. I was tactful the last time I brought this behavior up. People chose to ignore that post. If I have to be combative in order to get people to use their heads, so be it. I can handle the personal attacks.

Shelacious 11-09-2001 01:49 AM

Re: The Air around GC-All are welcome to respond
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty


What are your thoughts?


UMMMM...all I can say is....S-O-C :(

And you Pretty, know this better than anyone. Cliques always develop.

Special1920 11-09-2001 02:09 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Now what?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MIDWESTDIVA


Tis true, my tone was rather harsh. The warm and fuzzy approach doesn't always get the point across. I was tactful the last time I brought this behavior up. People chose to ignore that post. If I have to be combative in order to get people to use their heads, so be it. I can handle the personal attacks.

Midwestdiva, your post is not the one I was referring to. I've seen several in the last few months, I must have missed yours :)!

PrettyKitty 11-09-2001 12:33 PM

Part of what I see the issue is and maybe it's the same issue with choosing a sorority...which is the belief that some have that bigger means better. Preposterous. More posts does not equate a better forum, nor does more participants...rather the quality of the posts determines how good a forum is. I have seen thought provoking posts in all forums whether big or small. I try to visit every single last one of them. I will not, however, waste my time and energy to make a callous attempt to belittle others because of a forum siZe or an organiZational affliliation...and anyone who does so is both brash and immature.


Does the organiZation make you or do you make the organiZation?

Finer Woman10-A-91 11-09-2001 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
...More posts does not equate a better forum, nor does more participants...rather the quality of the posts determines how good a forum is. I have seen thought provoking posts in all forums whether big or small. I try to visit every single last one of them.

Does the organiZation make you or do you make the organiZation?

Especially when there are like a quite a few members with multiple sceennames who have thousands if posts in the same forum! LOL

Nonetheless, for the most part I enjoy reading GC. BUT every now and then folks need a clear reality check.:p
It's really not that serious. As one of my favorite people said to me when we were co-eds..."DEEP IS HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE".

Now, get out there and do some community service!

Her Dopenezzz 11-09-2001 04:09 PM

Everytime you speak Finer, school is in session. Always teaching 'em something. Work it out soror!

Quote:

Originally posted by Finer Woman10-A-91


Especially when there are like a quite a few members with multiple sceennames who have thousands if posts in the same forum! LOL

Nonetheless, for the most part I enjoy reading GC. BUT every now and then folks need a clear reality check.:p
It's really not that serious. As one of my favorite people said to me when we were co-eds..."DEEP IS HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE".

Now, get out there and do some community service!


Espionage1920 11-09-2001 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
More posts does not equate a better forum, nor does more participants...rather the quality of the posts determines how good a forum is. I have seen thought provoking posts in all forums whether big or small. I try to visit every single last one of them. I will not, however, waste my time and energy to make a callous attempt to belittle others because of a forum siZe or an organiZational affliliation...and anyone who does so is both brash and immature.


Does the organiZation make you or do you make the organiZation?

Ditto Soror! The women or the person does indeed make the organization. A person should already know who they are before they join an organization or at least a sense of who they are and where they are going. Have some direction.
We should however be able to post anywhere when the need or "topic" arises. Doing so in a manner that does not offend or belittle others. Although people may do it to us, do we really like it? Why do it to others?

MIDWESTDIVA 11-09-2001 06:21 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Now what?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Special1920
Midwestdiva, your post is not the one I was referring to. I've seen several in the last few months, I must have missed yours :)!
Then I must have a guilty conscience. :)

ChaosDST 11-10-2001 04:03 PM

Re: The Air around GC-All are welcome to respond
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
Is it me, or does there seem to be some stale air around GC among the BGLO sororities? I mean outside of the general playful jab here and there...some of the stuff that I have been reading is sickening.

When I first started posting on here, it seemed to be a friendly air about us...but unfortunately I feel that that's gone by the wayside.


What are your thoughts?

Hey Pretty! I may be out of the loop. I haven't been checking all the threads or boards as much. Either I'm missing something or I don't take any of this stuff seriously...lemme know which one :)


DSTDeuce

PrettyKitty 11-11-2001 01:50 PM

Re: Re: The Air around GC-All are welcome to respond
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST


Hey Pretty! I may be out of the loop. I haven't been checking all the threads or boards as much. Either I'm missing something or I don't take any of this stuff seriously...lemme know which one :)


DSTDeuce

Deuce where u been girlie? I just remember how friendly things used to be around here and it all seems to be evaporating...Glad to see you back Miss Moderator (you and the411 wear that title well btw ;) )

ChaosDST 11-11-2001 02:13 PM

Re: Re: Re: The Air around GC-All are welcome to respond
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
Deuce where u been girlie? I just remember how friendly things used to be around here and it all seems to be evaporating...Glad to see you back Miss Moderator (you and the411 wear that title well btw ;) )

Here's my take on all of this, Sister Pretty: I think some people on GC ocassionally suffer from RTS=Ralph Tresvant Syndrome. Too much sensitivity, people misinterpret posts and fly off the deep end with drama filled replies, etc. I've said many times on GC that it is easy to misinterpret what someone means behind a post (or behind emails)...so, if you're not SURE if the person's being disrespectful or snotty, ask for CLARITY. I know there have been times where my words have been taken in a negative light. We should read all posts with an open mind...not with an assumption of negativity...because when we READ posts with negativity, we will ASSUME the poster has an attitude. That's not always the case. Overall, I think folks need to lighten up and quit using GC as place to go to anonymously fuss others out and overreact to not-so-important topics.


That's MY $19.13, please let me know what ya'll think about it.

Espionage1920 11-11-2001 05:50 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Air around GC-All are welcome to respond
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST
Here's my take on all of this, Sister Pretty: I think some people on GC ocassionally suffer from RTS=Ralph Tresvant Syndrome. Too much sensitivity, ...
RTS - That's a good one and you are exactly right. I especially agree that if one needs clarity, that person should indeed ask.

kitten03 11-11-2001 08:35 PM

I hope no one minds my reply
 
I think that it's very difficult to interpret the tone that people are using when they speak or write. Sometimes, when something is said, it is taken out of context because you don't know how the person intended the statement. There are things that both interests and members take out of context.

As far as an interest being jumped on or attacked, I don't believe that's necessary unless the person is coming totally incorrect. Sometimes if there is ignorance on a board, we should all take a minute to think about what we want to say. So instead of getting the emotional response, there will be some thought put into what is said.

But I do understand that comments against or misinformed about everyone's respected organization could raise someone's blood pressure.

PrettyKitty 11-11-2001 08:41 PM

Re: I hope no one minds my reply
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kitten03
I think that it's very difficult to interpret the tone that people are using when they speak or write. Sometimes, when something is said, it is taken out of context because you don't know how the person intended the statement. There are things that both interests and members take out of context.

As far as an interest being jumped on or attacked, I don't believe that's necessary unless the person is coming totally incorrect. Sometimes if there is ignorance on a board, we should all take a minute to think about what we want to say. So instead of getting the emotional response, there will be some thought put into what is said.

But I do understand that comments against or misinformed about everyone's respected organization could raise someone's blood pressure.

My problem is when someone says that they are not being disrespectful and clarifies themselves and still the other person goes off on a tangent. It's unnecessary and like Deuce said it's probably RTS ;) and then there are those who are way too old to be acting on at the maturity level of a high schooler :rolleyes: ...how sad :rolleyes:

Special1920 11-12-2001 01:30 AM

Re: Re: I hope no one minds my reply
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
My problem is when someone says that they are not being disrespectful and clarifies themselves and still the other person goes off on a tangent. It's unnecessary and like Deuce said it's probably RTS ;)
I think little clarification is needed. Rude is rude, and those are the instances I refer to. As well as how some people jump on there interests. But I will agree that none of this is that serious. I often take long breaks from GC as well as the internet in general to just clear my head sort to speak.

aprilzeta 11-12-2001 02:27 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Air around GC-All are welcome to respond
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST



Here's my take on all of this, Sister Pretty: I think some people on GC ocassionally suffer from RTS=Ralph Tresvant Syndrome. Too much sensitivity, people misinterpret posts and fly off the deep end with drama filled replies, etc. I've said many times on GC that it is easy to misinterpret what someone means behind a post (or behind emails)...so, if you're not SURE if the person's being disrespectful or snotty, ask for CLARITY. I know there have been times where my words have been taken in a negative light. We should read all posts with an open mind...not with an assumption of negativity...because when we READ posts with negativity, we will ASSUME the poster has an attitude. That's not always the case. Overall, I think folks need to lighten up and quit using GC as place to go to anonymously fuss others out and overreact to not-so-important topics.


That's MY $19.13, please let me know what ya'll think about it.

I agree 100% ChaosDST. I think all of the negativity needs to be redirected. Using the internet to be-little and argue with people over petty topics(or any topic, b/c nothing should be that serious) shows that there are some character flaws in that particular person. Referring to the earlier posts, "Quantity does not necessitate Quality." Also, Soror Finer, KEEP SCHOOLING! I must say that you are skilled in the art of debate. Just my little spin on things.

peace...

Finer Woman10-A-91 11-12-2001 10:48 AM

I agree.
Rude is rude.

I won't speak on how others treat their interests. Thats not my house to clean. I just hope sistah-wide we will one day recognize, many sisters are hurting and searching for answers for the sorrows of their hearts. We need to work honestly and humbly on uplifting eachmother regardless of our interests or affiliation in greek life. We don't know the personal situations of the women on the other side of these keyboards. And sometimes when we say things we think are harmless, we do more damage then we realize. Think before you type sistahs.


Quote:

Originally posted by Special1920
I think little clarification is needed. Rude is rude, and those are the instances I refer to. As well as how some people jump on their interests. But I will agree that none of this is that serious. I often take long breaks from GC as well as the internet in general to just clear my head sort to speak.

Finer Woman10-A-91 11-12-2001 10:51 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Air around GC-All are welcome to respond
 
Quote:

Originally posted by aprilzeta


I agree 100% ChaosDST. I think all of the negativity needs to be redirected. Using the internet to be-little and argue with people over petty topics(or any topic, b/c nothing should be that serious) shows that there are some character flaws in that particular person. Referring to the earlier posts, "Quantity does not necessitate Quality." Also, Soror Finer, KEEP SCHOOLING! I must say that you are skilled in the art of debate. Just my little spin on things.

peace...

Thank you for the love Soror AprilZeta. Discussion and Debate was one of my favorite subjects and competitive events when I was in school.

Sisterly,
10-A-91

ms. understood 11-13-2001 08:04 PM

Hello Ladies!

I am new to greekchat in terms of posting. I have been silently viewing for about a month now. I generally read message boards that spark my interests but for the most part I view all D9 boards. I too have noticed message this "message board discrimination" if you will, and it is rather disturbing. It also seems that some sisterfirends only respond to posts that are initiated by members of the org that they are intersted in. I've seen the sarcastic responses and "inside jokes" from members and sisterfriends and it's not really necessary. BTW I primarily see this mess going on in one forum.


The bottom line is, people need to be more polite when they type regardless of greek affiliation. And certain sisterfriends need to realize that posting on message boards and creating "cyber cliques" will not get you any closer to your organization of choice.




ChaosDST 11-13-2001 10:09 PM

I guess I haven't noticed a lot of the things others have noticed on GC. But, I definitely agree that people shouldn't use organizational affiliation or cliques as a mechanism to speak to or treat others negatively. I don't know what particular board folks keep referring to, but has anyone ever thought to email one of the Moderators from that board, instead of choosing the passive aggressive approach of indirectly mentioning that board in threads like this? Just a question :confused:

searchin' 11-13-2001 10:13 PM

Re: WOW
 
Quote:

Originally posted by novella000
I am sure you don't need my comments on this topic -- but I did wanna say you guys sure have had a lot of activity in this forum lately... Keep it up. Interesting threads!!! WOW :cool:


:rolleyes:

ms. understood 11-13-2001 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST
I guess I haven't noticed a lot of the things others have noticed on GC. But, I definitely agree that people shouldn't use organizational affiliation or cliques as a mechanism to speak to or treat others negatively. I don't know what particular board folks keep referring to, but has anyone ever thought to email one of the Moderators from that board, instead of choosing the passive aggressive approach of indirectly mentioning that board in threads like this? Just a question :confused:
I'm not sure what good emailing a moderator would do seeing as how I've witnessed a couple participate in the foolishness.

TRSimon 11-14-2001 12:18 AM

Well...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST
I guess I haven't noticed a lot of the things others have noticed on GC. But, I definitely agree that people shouldn't use organizational affiliation or cliques as a mechanism to speak to or treat others negatively. I don't know what particular board folks keep referring to, but has anyone ever thought to email one of the Moderators from that board, instead of choosing the passive aggressive approach of indirectly mentioning that board in threads like this? Just a question :confused:
There is NO USE writing a moderator of the board that I spoke of in one of my earlier posts, because a moderator said something highly negative about my org and others. Other moderators saw the post and while they locked the thread, the comment remains.
What else is there to say??

This is why I don't post there any more. For me, enough is enough, even from the Bougie And Pretentious.

Sincerely,
TRSimon

Special1920 11-14-2001 12:46 AM

Decided against it!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST
I guess I haven't noticed a lot of the things others have noticed on GC. But, I definitely agree that people shouldn't use organizational affiliation or cliques as a mechanism to speak to or treat others negatively. I don't know what particular board folks keep referring to, but has anyone ever thought to email one of the Moderators from that board, instead of choosing the passive aggressive approach of indirectly mentioning that board in threads like this? Just a question :confused:
I thought about it, but decided against it. As you or someone else said, it's not that serious, and I'm sure they know. But now I realize I'm not the only one who sees it, so everyone else know too. I'm done with it. I love my house!

ChaosDST 11-14-2001 12:53 AM

OKIE DOKIE

PrettyPetite 11-14-2001 08:44 AM

I tried not to respond to this post, but oh well. If it steps on toes, then oh well. Moderators, please delete if you feel the need to.


I think the air around GC stinks. The funky attitudes in responding to posts are NOT needed...and I have seen enough of that on the boards....also, I notice a lot of the cyber cliques, among other things.

And DON'T let an interested party ask the wrong question!!! Even if she didn't know any better, she would still be subject to the stank remarks that some members tend to dish out.

Bottom line, I think this will solve the problem: If you don't have anything nice to say, send a Private Message, or don't say anything at all!!! but hey, I don't know, maybe some people on GC THRIVE off of Drama!!!!!

PrettyPetite

PrettyKitty 11-14-2001 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyPetite
I but hey, I don't know, maybe some people on GC THRIVE off of Drama!!!!!

PrettyPetite

You might be right...if you are, what a shame... :eek:

Her Dopenezzz 11-14-2001 01:52 PM

OK, So nearly everyone agrees that the air is FOUL. What are you going to do to change it? Let's not perpetuate the prob. Just solve it...If that's possible.

ms. understood 11-14-2001 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by novella000
I am sure you don't need my comments on this topic -- but I did wanna say you guys sure have had a lot of activity in this forum lately... Keep it up. Interesting threads!!! WOW :cool:
Patronizing and/or sarcasm at its best.


Ladies,
You all are already exercising the solution to the problem, posting whenever and wherever you darn well please!

BlueReign 11-14-2001 04:36 PM

Funky, funky, funky
 
Yeah I agree with all of the above. Some GCpeople and their comments and attitudes really do stink. But you know what? I don't take none of this seriously. I know what organization and what members you are talking about but it really doesn't bother me. It doesn't change my opinion about that organization because some of them are really cool with me. I just got a friendly e-mail from one. Let's not get all worked up about this. It's not that serious and those who take it that serious (members and interests) need to get a life!! for real. The sad thing about all of this is that there are some interests who read that negative mess and it may change their hearts against them.

Now I would like to thank all the Zetas for their comments that kept me in this school this long reading this when I should have been long gone. ;)

I'm hooked again :p


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