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KSUViolet06 09-27-2010 10:06 PM

Sister Wives
 
Does anybody else watch this? It's a new show on TLC.

They are a polygamist family. The man has 3 wives and they have (I think) 14 kids.

Wife #3 is pregnant. Husband is also planning to propose to a woman and add a 4th wife (who also has like 3 kids).

Drama ensues. Craziness.

nittanygirl 09-27-2010 10:11 PM

I've been trying to catch this while its on, but I haven't yet.
I'm slightly intrigued. Do they all live together in a non-cult like setting?

southbymidwest 09-27-2010 10:18 PM

Saw them on one of the morning shows today. He is only legally married to his first wife. Had "marriage ceremonies" or some such other nonsense with the others. So the others have no legal rights that come with marriage. From what I understand from the interview, should something happen to hubby, legal wife calls the legal shots. Not an attorney, but doesn't that leave the other so called wives and their kids in a very vulnerable position? I absolutely would not want legal wife, no matter how sisterly we are, to have that kind of power over me/my kids. Then we would see how BFF the women are. But that's just me, I am a bit of a cynic.

Drolefille 09-27-2010 10:25 PM

I watched, there really wasn't any drama or craziness. As I said in another thread, I couldn't find much to complain about.

And their argument would be that plural marriage should be legal. As a pro-polyamory person, I'm not sure I disagree. I know people in poly relationships that are not based on a religious requirement or emphasis and they're incredibly happy. And, these adults grew up in polygamous families and their faith teaches that is the ideal (even if it's currently prohibited in LDS, it is only prohibited because it is illegal).

If we're going to believe that they're unhappy no matter what, well then we're going to believe that, but I think that's a rather silly perspective to take. I don't doubt that there will be some sort of drama through the season, but any more than any other family on reality TV? Probably not.

AXOrushadvisor 09-27-2010 10:30 PM

I watched it today. It was really interesting.

Drolefille 09-27-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanygirl (Post 1988332)
I've been trying to catch this while its on, but I haven't yet.
I'm slightly intrigued. Do they all live together in a non-cult like setting?

One house, multiple "master" bedrooms/living rooms/kitchens. Not out on a compound. This is like the "Big Love" version of polygamy, not the marrying 18 wives when you're 82 and they're 12 kind.

KSUViolet06 09-27-2010 10:39 PM

I do think it's interesting because in most polygamy-related shows, the women don't say much outside of "this is God's will" and "I love my sister-wives, they're my best friends." I think the women on this show are a little different than that.

Ex: First Wife openly admits to being jealous of the others and missing the time when she was the only wife.

victoriana 09-27-2010 11:13 PM

If she's so jealous, why did she even allow her husband to marry other women anyways? They're all best friends now but like others have said... I think the claws will come out. Reality shows tend to do that to people :P

Lafayette79 09-28-2010 12:40 AM

Sometimes, it's best to keep a low profile.

:( 'Sister Wives' stars may face bigamy charge: http://theclicker.todayshow.com/_new...-bigamy-charge

Originally, I thought that this thread was a spin off of the Penn State ASA's comment on "Your Mother's Rush" which is a wonderful thread.

KSUViolet06 09-28-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by victoriana (Post 1988358)
If she's so jealous, why did she even allow her husband to marry other women anyways? They're all best friends now but like others have said... I think the claws will come out. Reality shows tend to do that to people :P

I'm pretty sure all of the wives come from polygamist homes, so it's normal to them.

EagleChick19 09-28-2010 06:50 AM

There was a People article that said that the second wife was the only one not raised in a polygamist home.

blessyourheart 09-28-2010 08:26 AM

Maybe it's just me, but I am a little creeped out and uncomfortable with the dad. IDK, there's just something about him that rubs me the wrong way. Whenever he talks, I feel a little like he is lecturing us on the virtues of polygamy. It also bothers me a bit that all the mons ride around in monster SUVs to carry all the kids, yet dad's ride is a snazzy 2 seater sports car? I remember when my dad bought sports car right after the birth of my fourth sibling. I thought my mom was going to kill him? And Cody does "sales, advertising"? I know that is a career that requires long hours and travel, yet he sure does seem to be around a lot. So other than chopping the occaissional tree with a manly chain saw, what else does he do around the house other than pat the kids on the head and check his bed schedule and go on dates. With 12 kids and 3 wives there have to be issues, even if its the garden variety Johnny is flunking math and Susie is dating a boy we don't approve of and the water pipe broke. We don't hear much about that, other than how the wives get jealous. Methinks dad-Cody is a controller. Just my impression.

Lil' Hannah 09-28-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1988339)
And their argument would be that plural marriage should be legal. As a pro-polyamory person, I'm not sure I disagree.

Keep in mind though, polygamy != polyamory.

BluPhire 09-28-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lil' Hannah (Post 1988449)
Keep in mind though, polygamy != polyamory.


Exactly

Drolefille 09-28-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1988346)
I do think it's interesting because in most polygamy-related shows, the women don't say much outside of "this is God's will" and "I love my sister-wives, they're my best friends." I think the women on this show are a little different than that.

Ex: First Wife openly admits to being jealous of the others and missing the time when she was the only wife.

Aye this is a different look. And even as the first wife says she's jealous she admits to being the one who "recruits" the other wives.

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Originally Posted by victoriana (Post 1988358)
If she's so jealous, why did she even allow her husband to marry other women anyways? They're all best friends now but like others have said... I think the claws will come out. Reality shows tend to do that to people :P

Because it was worth it to her?
I suspect/fear most of the drama will be from the edited previews and not the show itself.
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Originally Posted by Lafayette79 (Post 1988393)
Sometimes, it's best to keep a low profile.

:( 'Sister Wives' stars may face bigamy charge: http://theclicker.todayshow.com/_new...-bigamy-charge

Originally, I thought that this thread was a spin off of the Penn State ASA's comment on "Your Mother's Rush" which is a wonderful thread.

Probably won't happen, even if they get charged I don't think they'll follow through. It opens a big can of worms that they're not ready to face. Interestingly Canada has declined to prosecute for bigamy due to freedom of religion.

Whether or not there's benefits fraud going on may be a different issue.
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Originally Posted by Lil' Hannah (Post 1988449)
Keep in mind though, polygamy != polyamory.

No shit. Poly's my thesis topic ;) And technically this is polygyny even if polygamy in this country is used to refer to religious Mormon and Muslim polygamy more than anything else. You couldn't craft a law that would allow multiple marriages for one without the other, which is my point.

Most people's objections to polygamy, FLDS in particular, are that they are patriarchal, forced marriages, with minors. The last two are illegal, and immoral, and should be prosecuted. You can't really DO anything about the patriarchy, not effectively from the outside anyway. And in the end, if these adult women are happy... well why not?

Is allowing multiple legal marriages likely? No. But ceasing to prosecute for multiple non-legal marriages is possible.

thetygerlily 09-28-2010 12:34 PM

I haven't seen it yet but I've been meaning to. The husband and I recently started watching Big Love (on HBO)- I think its 5th season starts in a few months. Similar idea, but fiction and HBO'd.

Drolefille 09-28-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thetygerlily (Post 1988510)
I haven't seen it yet but I've been meaning to. The husband and I recently started watching Big Love (on Showtime)- I think its 5th season starts in a few months. Similar idea, but fiction and Showtimed.

Work's been boring so I've been reading up, looks like HBO used this family in a "Real Life Polygamy" documentary that they produced along with Big Love. This family has quite a few similarities and I wouldn't be shocked if they weren't used as consultant/models/fodder for Big Love in some ways.

thetygerlily 09-28-2010 04:10 PM

Oh, you're right- it is HBO not Showtime. One of those paid channels!

Now I'm really curious to watch and see the similarities.

VandalSquirrel 09-28-2010 06:02 PM

I watched it, and these people are exactly the type of plural marriage people who I have no issue with. I am not a fan of teenage marriages and secret living, but grown people making decisions and allowing their kids to make their own choices is fine by me. I think the first wife was the youngest when she married (19 or so) and the others were in their early twenties. Not saying they aren't a product of their environment and sought out a plural marriage, but at least they aren't bilking the welfare system and the women go outside the home for school and work.

I really liked the one sister wife (I think the one who is pregnant and stays home) telling the girls they need to go to college/get an education before they get married. This is so different from the compound type FLDS people who close off the outside world and don't promote education at all. I also think their next house should have one room for Kody so he can keep all his clothes in one location and if he is sick not spread it around. I think his car is actually a four seater, with a not kid seat friendly back seat.

There is a colony not far from here, and I'm not talking about the one in British Columbia, but in North Idaho. I've seen them in Costco and I wasn't shocked because they were straight off the set of Big Love in hair and dress, but that it was on a Sunday and the woman was by herself with one infant. I guess they don't travel in packs here like the Mennonite and Hutterite people do.

KSUViolet06 10-11-2010 12:01 AM

So, Wife #1 gets IN-VITRO for her anniversary. How romantic.

I was even more weirded out by him being so pushy about it and saying "I don't think she means no yet."

Wife appears to be the code word for incubator.


DiamondAthena 10-11-2010 05:10 PM

Damn, my dvr recorded the wrong epsiode. Are they on line anywhere?

ASUADPi 10-20-2010 07:32 PM

Whatever floats your boat is all I have to say.

DrPhil 10-20-2010 11:55 PM

Beautiful cake. :) Looked tasty.

He's a handsome man. I liked the photos of their first weddings. He looked really handsome and clean cut when he was younger. I don't like the long hair thing.

honeychile 10-21-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1988667)
I watched it, and these people are exactly the type of plural marriage people who I have no issue with. I am not a fan of teenage marriages and secret living, but grown people making decisions and allowing their kids to make their own choices is fine by me. I think the first wife was the youngest when she married (19 or so) and the others were in their early twenties. Not saying they aren't a product of their environment and sought out a plural marriage, but at least they aren't bilking the welfare system and the women go outside the home for school and work.

I really liked the one sister wife (I think the one who is pregnant and stays home) telling the girls they need to go to college/get an education before they get married. This is so different from the compound type FLDS people who close off the outside world and don't promote education at all. I also think their next house should have one room for Kody so he can keep all his clothes in one location and if he is sick not spread it around. I think his car is actually a four seater, with a not kid seat friendly back seat.

There is a colony not far from here, and I'm not talking about the one in British Columbia, but in North Idaho. I've seen them in Costco and I wasn't shocked because they were straight off the set of Big Love in hair and dress, but that it was on a Sunday and the woman was by herself with one infant. I guess they don't travel in packs here like the Mennonite and Hutterite people do.

I agree. While polygomy isn't something that's common to most Americans, it's all these women know, and they seem to be doing well with it. I'm not sure how any four women are going to get all excited over Kody, but I could say that about many guys of many, many religions.

I was happy to hear that he was okay with his daughter wanting to go to the Naval Academy - which may be a bigger dream than she realizes, but more power to her.

I didn't get the incubator bit with this group that I get with a lot of the other FLDS. In a setting such as this, the competition could get intense. I do feel that Wife #1 needed better words to describe her feelings about her own needs, though.

DrPhil 10-09-2011 09:34 PM

I'm watching the new episode.

We don't have inside knowledge on their lives. Just based on what I see on the show, I see times where it seems like they don't have a consensus on how their lives should be lived. One of the wives wants to go back to work outside of the family work suggestion.

So, of course, they have the same problems that other unions and marriages have. People agree to things and pretend that they are completely in agreement even when their minds are telling them something different. People agree to things and change their minds either immediately or years later.

agzg 10-09-2011 09:53 PM

I like this episode a lot. It's the least douchey Kodi's come off in a while.

DrPhil 10-09-2011 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2098583)
I like this episode a lot. It's the least douchey Kodi's come off in a while.

LOL. They may have edited the douch out to show that he's too busy to be douchy.

The episode is titled "The 4 Lives of Kody Brown" and described as: "Kody is followed for four days as he moves each day to the house of a different wife...."

AngiRd 10-09-2011 10:54 PM

I love this show i find it super interesting and like others have said they were all adults when they entered into this life style so i think we .. i mean the collective we should not persecute or prosecute them for it

ree-Xi 10-10-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AngiRd (Post 2098607)
I love this show i find it super interesting and like others have said they were all adults when they entered into this life style so i think we .. i mean the collective we should not persecute or prosecute them for it

With as many different backgrounds, upbringing, religious affiliations (or none), political leanings, life experiences, I would say that on this board, there really isn't a "collective we."

Discussing a lifestyle and their personal decisions that, as it appears on television...

- is causing a lot of family disharmony
- keeps mom and kids from seeing the husband/father (he stays at each home once every four nights) on a regular basis
- is contributing to depression in one of the teenagers
- uprooted their entire family - in a matter of 8 days - under the auspices that they were "running from the law," when their moving will have no effect on the reach of the charges filed against them
- is causing many of the older children internal strife; most don't want to follow in the parents' faith; several are "getting out" as soon as possible

... is NOT persecution.

DrPhil 10-10-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2098676)
- is causing a lot of family disharmony
- keeps mom and kids from seeing the husband/father (he stays at each home once every four nights) on a regular basis
- is contributing to depression in one of the teenagers
- uprooted their entire family - in a matter of 8 days - under the auspices that they were "running from the law," when their moving will have no effect on the reach of the charges filed against them
- is causing many of the older children internal strife; most don't want to follow in the parents' faith; several are "getting out" as soon as possible

Yeah the surface-level freedom of choice does not override what is going on. Families are complex, stressful, and easily imbalanced. That complexity can be increased with "these types of families."

I appreciate consenting adults' rights to choose their own partnerships and families. At the same time, freedom of choice could theoretically support a lot of decisions that are considered illegal; and many would consider immoral or bad ideas based on weighing the costs and benefits.

shirley1929 06-30-2014 06:31 PM

Watching last night's episode. Anyone have any idea what sorority Aspyn joined at UNLV?

ree-Xi 06-30-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2279479)
Watching last night's episode. Anyone have any idea what sorority Aspyn joined at UNLV?

Yep.

DrPhil 06-30-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2279481)
Yep.

LOL. Ooooook....

ree-Xi 06-30-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2279483)
LOL. Ooooook....

She kept the name private on the show, so I figured she might want to keep it that way.:p

Tulip86 06-30-2014 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2279484)
She kept the name private on the show, so I figured she might want to keep it that way.:p

It's all over her Twitter https://twitter.com/AspynBrown
she joined Alpha Xi Delta

shirley1929 06-30-2014 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tulip86 (Post 2279486)
It's all over her Twitter https://twitter.com/AspynBrown
she joined Alpha Xi Delta

Thanks! Was just curious and it wasn't on Wiki, and I don't do Twitter....

Tulip86 06-30-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2279487)
Thanks! Was just curious and it wasn't on Wiki, and I don't do Twitter....

I'm not much of a Twitterer (is that a word?) but I came across her page because one of my friends retweeted her and I remember I saw her affiliation on there somewhere.

ASUADPi 06-30-2014 08:13 PM

LOVE the quote she posted on Twitter from her sister, Truely, "true sisters and ever after friends". That is the cutest!

DrPhil 09-04-2014 09:20 PM

Bump because I'm watching the polygamy show on National Geographic Channel.

AXiD SmileyFace 09-20-2014 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tulip86 (Post 2279486)
It's all over her Twitter https://twitter.com/AspynBrown
she joined Alpha Xi Delta

Holy Cow! That's my chapter! I had no idea. A belated congrats to her. I haven't watched this show in a good long while.


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