I know
 

I know I said I was through with this, but I need for black greeks to see this! By the way for all of those who attended PW universities, have any of you ever heard of Delta Sigma Phi?Anyways if you can't pull this up on your url, type it in!


www.tolerance.org/news/feature/auburn/page2.html

I had previously read the article, but I had not seen any of the pics until now....WTF!!! :mad: :mad: !!!!!!

The Tom Joyner morning show has been talking about it today and yesterday on the radio. Has anyone heard the comments from his show? Basically he is stating that the frat on that campus needs to be suspended forever....I agree.

I did...
 

I went to a PWCU, and we had both Delta Sigs and Beta Theta Pi. Both orgs on my campus each had a Black student (big whoop, I know). But seriously, the Delta Sigs were pretty cool. The Beta's were kinda nerdy and boring. Never had a problem like that out of any of them. Not anything like this. We had other racial issues, though. But never on the Greek tip.

By the way, Frat, glad to have you back.

I heard about it.
 

I heard about it. I think those students should be interviewed publicly.

I hope the Ques sue the phuck out of 'em! Then afterwards, we ALL should roll down there and...!:D

Re: I heard about it.
 

I was thinking the same thing.;) Just let a sistah know!:D

I am just so angry and disgusted with these individuals. The ladies posing in the pics should also be expelled from school. They are just as gulity as these idiots. I agree that both orgs should be suspended from that campus forever.:mad:

You know, I kept asking myself why would these so-called "ladies" posed in pictures with these idiots? That's just plain stupid! First, I wouldn't even want to attend a party where members of another ethnicity and greek organization are being mocked. Second, I wouldn't dare smile and pose for pictures with them! UUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH!:mad:

Re: I heard about it.
 

Good to hear from you, TOA. I was wondering what you thought about all of this. :cool:
One of the members of the NPHC listserv (a soror) also suggested that Omega Psi Phi sue the two fraternities involved for copyright infringement.

It's good to hear from you too!
 

It's good to hear from you too, Steellady!

Besides givin' a monumental beat-down, all they really can do is demand a public apology, and sue both of the frats.

I suggest they do it all!:D

Public apology, lawsuits, chapter snatched, house pulled and a beatdown.

To quote a well-known domestic goddess, not B. Smith:

"It's a good thing." :) :p ;)

This is some shiiiiiit! I agree with suing. I hope the NAACP plays a role in this. I know if this happened in my area, I would be at a rally right now!!!!

Bad isht runs in threes
 

Well, this stuff is like a particularly nasty STD. It won't go away.
This appeared in the University of Mississippi's student paper. The link features a photo of another a-hole in blackface.

Fraternity party under investigation

Julie Finley & Elizabeth Yoste
DM Staff Members
November 08, 2001

Two members of the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity are
being expelled from the organization in connection
with a racially insensitive photograph taken at this
year's ATO Halloween party. The university and the ATO
national organization will continue to investigate the
actions of the entire chapter.
The photograph depicted a fraternity member, dressed
as a police officer, holding a gun to the head of
another member dressed in blackface. The member in
blackface was wearing a straw hat while kneeling on
the ground picking cotton.

The picture was posted on the Party Pics' network Web
site. The Web site posts professionally taken pictures
at organizational parties as a means of distributing
photo proofs for purchase. The
pictures have since been removed from the Web site.

ATO president Grant Gremillion refused to comment on
the situation, but the fraternity released a statement
regarding the incident.

"As an organization on The University of Mississippi
campus ATO is highly sensitive to the issue of race
and the chapter is sincerely sorry for this terribly
unfortunate incidence," the statement said.

Wynn Smiley, chief executive officer of the national
fraternity, said the incident was unfortunate and
there will be an investigation into the chapter's
responsibility.

"There's really no gray area, it's absolutely
unacceptable," Smiley said. "The investigation is to
ensure that we understand what was going on and about
the party itself, and to get a better idea of what was
going on that night."

Smiley said he has every reason to believe that it was
an isolated incident and the national fraternity will
be investigating and taking disciplinary actions
against the chapter.

"There wasn't much judgment, but the two people
depicted are very much misdirected individuals and
have no place in our organization," Smiley said.

Associated Dean of Students Jason Dean said a
university investigation would begin today.

"As painful as the process is going to be, we're going
to grow from this and hopefully become better for it,"
Dean said.

Chancellor Robert Khayat agreed with Dean.

"This is unfortunate because this isolated incident
will present the entire university in a negative way,"
Khayat said. "We will take whatever actions are
necessary."

Phi Beta Sigma, a traditionally black fraternity,
co-sponsors with the ATOs the Chucky Mullins Banquet,
honoring the former Ole Miss football player.

Sigma President Vernon Rayford and Vice President
Tejuan Leland said they hope this incident does not
affect the annual banquet.

"If it scars the relationship, it's a failure on both
sides," Rayford said.

Rayford and Leland said the incident is a step back
for Ole Miss.

"When my friends, black and white, ask me if there is
racial tension I say no more than anywhere else, but
stuff like this disheartens me," Leland said.

Rayford also said it was important not to stereotype
the beliefs of all members of the fraternity, but some
responsibility must fall on the entire chapter.

"I don't think that all ATOs are racist," Vernon said.
"Don't make assumptions."

Re: Bad isht runs in threes
 

The response from Sigma is interesting. I can't see sponsoring any type of event with a chapter that accepts this type of behavior. While I agree that the attitude does not represent the organization it does speak to the current members of the chapter.

Hopefully, the Sigmas on that yard will seriously examine the situation.

Re: Re: Bad isht runs in threes
 

This is one time that you and I are on the same page! After this incident, I would never sponsor anything with these people! Talk about guilt by association. If my chapter were to loose their minds and still associate with these clowns, I would be standing in the middle of the chapter in full gear with my war paint on!!

If the other members at that party didn't object when they first saw or learned of the intended appearance, then yes they are just as guilty. Just because they didn't put on the blackface themselves doesn't make them any less guilty. It makes them cowards for standing by and remaining silent.

Responsibility
 

Everybody knows what those dudes did wasn't right.
I don't attend that university; so I really feel I shouldn't comment on it. Based on what I just read, I can't understand the actions of the Sigmas. Almost as importantly, where were the other African-American students/organizations? The actions of these dudes clearly demonstrate what they think of us; so why continue associating with them? If it can be proven that other members knew about it(thanks AKAtude :) ), then the whole chapter should be punished.

I'm so tired of our people being so forgiving. Why do we forgive so quickly? How would that university had responded had the the cop been a Nazi, and the nigga a jew?

Re: Responsibility
 

You got that right! They would have not only been expelled rom their fraternity, probably from school as well.

This is a 'fcuked' up world and this is more common than people think

I hope the Ques sue the chit out of them
wore the Ques letters shit on my yard that would have been a damn fight, shit you don't earn the black and gold u don't wear the black and gold shit even bruhs who skated had to walk very softly if they visited K X.
the whole damn org should be suspended for five years at least
the sigmas what the hell are they thinking. man i don't get it on my yard don't matter if you had beef with a white org the whole NPHC had your back. Shit i remember a day P.S. had to roll on a meeting cause The Bruhs Ques and Sigmas were about to put our thang down on some ATo's Pikers, and KA at a IFC meeting.
where is the unity
Yo i'm out gotta go to work in the morning pEACE


jIHAD
we will band together and survive or live apart and die as fools
Susan Taylor

This isn't new to some of us...
 

Yo Dex, bring it up again and again cuz when I saw the pics I was heated.

We all are disgusted by the showing of these members of delta sig phi, ATO, etc. Matters like these aren't to treated lightly, by any means neccesary.
So what if they have blacks, jews, asians, etc. that joined; to come back and say that they are all against the behaviors which we have seen from them since their inceptions. I can't sit well with that. Who wanted to ride Spike when he made his movie b/c they thought this past was behind us. C'mon covert racism is extremely real.

Some people forget why we were founded, and why some of us like myself joined in the first place...we were well aware of our surroundings. We could see that some members of these frats/sororities or just random people on the yard don't like us. I don't always want to breed violence against violence but some folks just have it coming to them...

hmm, I feel like going to a tigers game...

Swallow Back!

There have also been "blackface" incidents reported at the University of Louisville by Tau Kappa Epsilon. The following link will take you to a letter of apology issued by the fraternity, as well as the incident report.

http://www.louisville.edu/update/tkeapol.html

Lobotomy
 

I read that the Louisville incidents included a BLACK TKE member dressed as a Klansman.
I related this to one of my older sorors at a meeting I went to Saturday. She suggested that the kid get a lobotomy. Agreed -- and let's order one up for the parents, too.
:mad:

We as apeople need to recognize that there are those who fear us. Us meaning different groups of black men and women who are not only educated, but understand the importance of service to the community. So in order to demean us, they try to portray us as ignorant goons who only wear FUBU ( another company who should look into suing these bastards). Keep your eyes open!

The more I think about this leads me to believe that we should be e-mailing the university and chapter/national organization of this fraternity.

I will try to find a link to post.