Auburn University Frats (2 of them)
 

Let's skee how people "feel" about this.

:rolleyes:
I just heard about it on the news.

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=11594



ATAAB?

I think that it is extremely sad that in 2001, we still have people in this country who think things like this are funny. Even with the recent terror attacks in this country, there is still no unity on the homefront. I hope these people are severely punished for their acts so they never, ever do it again.

:mad:

Members of the NPHC list posted some of those pictures. I couldn't look at more than one before I got physically ill.

I honestly hope that the Auburn University adminstration has enough cojones to see this through to its conclusion. I'd definitely kick the orgs. off campus. Sensitivity training? I don't know if that would work.

But I'm not surprised that this stuff happens. Remember, some of these so-called "fraternity men" may be coming from homes where their parents are whining about how that f%#@*&^ affirmative action or those (racial slurs) cost them a promotion or a great job or something.

ST

What will probably Happen
 

I know I am being negative but what will probably happen is they will get a slap on the wrist and some "diversity" training......But what really needs to happen is an investigation and no rush allowed until this situation has been rectified to the fullest.

Sphinxpoet

man, bunk the trainings
 

Drop 'em off in the hood. With their KKK gear on. I bet they won't do it no more. Let them see what hatred feels like when you're on the other side. I'm sure I'll get reamed for this. Two wrongs don't make a right and all that. But I'm talkin' rehab. That's rehab like a mug. Or I guess it could backfire and they end up worse. Still, they deserve an @$$ kickin'. *sigh* Nevermind, God will get them.

Re: man, bunk the trainings
 

I say leave them in a room with Ideal08, AKA2D, Original Ape and myself and see what happens :eek:

Sphinxpoet

I am not sure if this was mentioned in the original post on the other gc page, I only skimmed it since I'd received an email on this. But if it was not , I also want to point out that these young men, also in black face dressed up as members of Omega Psi Phi and mocked them. Some wore afros, others "doo rags"; some wore a "piece and chain" and knuckle ring.

Here is the link I received with the full story and pics.

http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_hate.jsp?id=319

I was incredibley appalled, and saddened. It is a shame, that one of the most poweful vessels we have for social change, a NPHC fraternity, is being mocked, and the very victim of racial ignorance.

Truly, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

shocked and appalled would about cover it I think.

Just saw the pictures and only thing I can say is that it is not safe for those guys on campus or anywhere they may run into an Omega Man.....or for that matter any other member of the NPHC.

Sphinxpoet

:eek:

I don't know any Ques that would stand for that http://www.plauder-smilies.de/rough/twak.gif

Basically.

Unending
 

I just picked this up from the NPHC listserv:

From FoxNews
It seems that racism isn't just in Alabama.

Blackface Blackballed

The University of Wisconsin-Whitewater placed sanctions on a fraternity that did a variety show at which a member appeared in blackface, reports The Associated Press.
The student put brown paint on his face as part of a skit based on old Nike commercials. He was trying to portray former NBA star Charles Barkley's appearance when he said, "I am not a role model."
About 50 students protested afterwards, so the Tau Kappa Epsilon fraternity was banned from participating in campus variety shows unless they apologize to the Black Student Union and must also participate in diversity programs.
The university is investigating other punishments, including the expulsion of the 70-student chapter from campus.

Re: Unending
 

Their national headquarters should expel them from the fraternity!

Re: Re: Unending
 

That's right! National headquarters usually don't play around. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't all in Auburn or Whitewater now.

Oh, yes...there will be retaliation. It may not be right, but there will be. The Omegas I know don't mess around either.

Re: Re: Unending
 

yeah right! :rolleyes: YOU wait for it. (shaking my head)

YOU think?:confused:
Why me? :confused: I'm not violent. :p;)

I'm not shocked at the events either. I just wanted us to watch this thread (Greeklife) to see how folks respond.

I am an Auburn University student, and actually, AKA2D, both the individual in the Klansman attire and the one with the blackface and FUBU shirt have been expelled from their fraternity, Delta Sigma Phi. However, I am hoping that both Beta Theta Pi and Delta Sig will have their charters revoked.

I must give props the men of Omega Psi Phi here on campus. They have handled themselves like true gentleman (I'd expect nothing less) and represented Omega to the fullest.

This is so sad, beyond uncalled for, and down right pitiful to say the least. All I can do is shake my head at this madness... umph umph umph, this makes no dayum sense.

My friend saw it on the news yesterday and one of the anchors is a known member of Omega Psi Phi. She said even though he still had his professional demeanor, he was totally pi$$Ed!

Thanks, Intheknow! Expulsion from their fraternity is the first thing I thought of. There could be no other way to go. I agree that the charters should be revoked as well.

Please keep us updated!

:mad: It makes me sad to see things like this are still occuring in 2001. I find ignorance of other races inexcusable, especially on a campus that has bglo to show white students that may not know much about black students that we are not blackfaces that wear gold chains and FUBU. It's sad that our past is still shown as a joke to some, but I am glad that their fraternity is suspended. My first semester in school I stayed on a floor that had more white students than black. They would ask me all types of questions about black people, and I couldn't fault them because they just didn't know. I was their first incounter with a black person that they could ask personal questions, and thank God I was a good representation of our people. All I can say is that when things like this occur, I can only be thankful for all of the positive black men and women that prove these stereotypes wrong everyday.

I received the email from my sons god-father and when I looked at the pictures I was utterly disgusted!!! They even had the nerve to depict a lynching with a guy in blackface wearing a handwritten FUBU shirt. They should be expelled from the organization, make a public apology to the Bruhs of Omega Psi Phi, and get their behinds kicked. There is no excuse for racist behavior like this on any campus, anywhere!

My feelings
 

Peace All!
It's been a minute, right?? I want to get all of your opinion on the following. It's what I wrote on another message board regarding this issue... Input Please!!

i cannot even begin to communicate the outrage i felt when i read the newspaper clipping and viewed the pictures of the RACIST PIGS who dressed in black face for halloween. After the outrage calmed (it's not gone), the reality of this bulls*** country became even more apparent to me (it's not a new discovery)...
the pigs who dressed as such in these pictures represent the majority of white people's feelings (at least the majority who hold economic and political power) when it comes to Afrikans in amerikkka. the majority of them think of us as simpletons, homeboys and worthy to be lynched. we try so hard to prove them wrong, but this thinking is internalized in their very beings... i used to be one who wanted to prove so hard to white people that we can articulate thoughts, that we are intelligent, that we are good people... then one day i said f*** it... why should i spend so much of my time and energy trying to integrate into a system that is set up for my demise instead of trying to build my own community... instead of fighting for self determination...
tell me people... who are we looking to be validated by?? these same pigs who think it's funny to depict tying a noose around a black man's neck are the same pigs who may one day be your bosses... these are the same pigs who will tie an institutionalized noose around your necks.
writing to their schools and national headquarters is a good idea... it will punish the guilty, but it will not cease the thinking that goes along with these actions (which is an impossible feat because this thinking runs rampant). we need to stop looking for validation from someone who doesn't give a damn... stop trying to fit in and conform to be something we can never be... stop contributing to a system that overall is repaying us with crumbs.
Come on Afrikan people... let's build!! thoughts... ideas??

NaturalBeauty08...
 

That's my soror right there!!! Girl, you betta preach!!! :)

Well said, soror.

The Fraternal Bond
 

Has anyone ever read "The Fraternal Bond as a Joking Relationship" by Peter Lyman. In this essay, he argues that such pranks increase the bond among fraternity members. He gives example similar to this one and others involving the degradation of women. I think people like him perpetuate the ignorace which encourages such behavior. As a society, to change behavior, we need to first change attitudes.

Thanks Soror!!!

So how do we build??

Auburn Frats.
 

:eek: I really couldn't believe my eyes. I couldn't imaging that college educated people would act like that. I think that it was rally immature of them. Auburn needs to kick them off the campus, and their headquarters need to revoke their membership.

Expulsion of members and snatching of chapters would be an appropriate response. What needs to be done in this case is to make sure that incidents like this are reduced, period.
That is the best thing that will come out of this. As I said before, there is no way that 40-some years of civil rights advances can even begin to make up for 400+ years of BS. Whole populations don't go lockstep from one situation to another.

Exactly, they are going to have to endure the consequences of their actions. That would be the last thing I would do is to mock someone in a fraternity or a sorority, or anybody. I know those Omegas want to cut up.

Horrible
 

I found this to be very disturbing!!!! I couldn't believe this at all. The thing that I am concerned about is that a LOT of people don't know about this. Now you know that if it was African Americans then it would have been ALL over the news and the media would have been all over this!!!! I am kind of angry that it is kind of swept under the rug. When I went to my African American class today NO one knew about these events, sorors at my school didn't know about it either, the bruhs didn't know. Could it be becuase they were Caucasion. On another note I do agree with them taking thier letters from them, but then again lets REALLY think about that! Is that really punishemnet???? All they are really doing is taking a previlage from them!!! I don't think that is enough!!! There should be MORE action taking about this matter. But the one thing that my African American Professor stated was that if this ever made it to court.... It would be a matter of FREE SPEECH and there is really nothing that would be done about it well I think that it should be some FREE #SS Kickin' as well!!!! I am just angry because of feel as if it was one of us the punishment would have been greater!!!!!!

I am trying to get African Americans on my campus involved and do something before this gets lost in the wind!!!


sorry I had to vent

Re: Horrible
 

You are so right! Why don't we get the national media involved? I'll e-mail Star at the View, Oprah, 20/20, Primetime Live, Dateline NBC, Geraldo Rivera, Larry King, 60 Minutes! Can y'all think of anyone else? Let me know.

They are so freakin' "proud" of what they did, why don't we let the entire country and world see it, too! You darn right! If the shoe was on the other foot, you know e'rebody would know it! Well, it's about dayum time. I'm on a mission now...

This actually brings tears to my eyes...Some of you seem surprised that occurences that like continue to happen today...But, as a student at a large PWU, the first thing I thought was "It figures"...(shaking my head)...However, what did actually surprise me is that they chose to mock a BGLO, pictures and all--as if they're not afraind of retaliation by other Blacks on campus...It's really sad--events like these occur every-so-often on PWCs every-so-often, especially since the number of Blacks on these types of campus is usually very low in comparison to the amount of whites...I also think another reason why these things continue to occur is b/c the schools allow them to...

I believe they--the members of that particular chapter that took part in the party--OWE the entire NPHC a public apology...They also need their chapter revoked (or at least suspended) from that particular campus...Schools should think about establishing a "Diversity Requirement, like they have at some PWU's (where each student has to take at least one class on an ethnic or racial group different from their own)...But, then again, I also think that "Sensitivity" and/or "Diversity" training, in my opinion, will not cut it, simply b/c you can't teach someone anything if their mind s not open to receive the information...


What is also sad is that there may be members of that chapter that did not participate in the party--yet they get "BRANDED" as "RACISTS" also...We actually have these Fratenities on our campus, and I have NEVER heard about them being involved in anything like this...The entire National Fraternities will now be looked upon badly by many people, and it gives Blacks another reason, as my Mother always said, to "Never Trust Them"...

I try to believe that my mother is wrong--that there are many out there that we can trust--but events like this make me wonder...

Sugar_N_Spice, you hit the nail on the head. If people's minds aren't open, the information won't be received. Period.

I'm Serious!
 

Ok, y'all. I just e-mailed Star Jones. I made a list and checking them off one by one.

BOOOOOOO! Loooooserrrrrrrsssssss!
 

Let us know what she says. She should reply at least by Friday.

Now, for the other peeps, I'm sure they'll pretend as if they are :confused: as heck. They will not "understand" what the "issue" is.

See, we don't go around with their letters on mocking them with their toga parties, wild azz parties and toilet rolling antics. Shucks, if we did some of the stuff that they do, "we'd" be thrown in jail...(without the bail). Why would "we" want to go around at a costume party dressed as a Klucker? (KKK) That's too stupid...oh well.

This just shows more differences among "us" and "them".

:rolleyes:

Re: BOOOOOOO! Loooooserrrrrrrsssssss!
 

Soror, they already don't "understand," judging from some of the reactions about this topic in the Greek Life forum.
And as an aside, I'm proud of how this particular thread has been handled. It just shows that some topics should be kept "in house."
;)

Sorors I think I am through with that topic. I just thoroughly lost my temper and am toooooo disgusted with some of THEM. Shame too, cause some some of my best friends are Sigma Chi's.

Soror lovelyivy84,

You held it down on that thread.

All Sigma Chi's aren't as ignorant as we've seen in the general forums. I hope your friends understand.

Just reading these posts has drained me, although I'm not surprised about what happened and the reactions.

Thanks Soror! I know a number of Sigma Chis that I love to death, so I wouldn't blame the org for those guys. THey are just a mess!

I am going to take my own advice and relax, relate release. I'm turning off my computer and LEAVING MY OFFICE (and it really is 6 pm y'all, been here since 9 am). I am going home!

But I have GOT to say that we were all holding it down on that thread! My Sorors were working it! Shoot, my black people in general were holding it down. Boy we can argue, eh? lol