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Hi! (transfer school, sorority chapter at new school?)
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Can anyone tell me what happens when a member transfers to a new school and is not invited to join that school's chapter of her sorority?
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Did you request to affiliate with the chapter at your new school, or were you waiting for them to invite you? Every org is different, and I imagine that if the chapter just had recruitment and is at max, it might be a numbers issue. |
Yes, I requested to affiliate with them but i was not chosen. They picked only 2 out of the 6 transfers. One of the girls picked was my roommie which makes this situation even more traumatic for me. i am so miserable that i want to withdraw from school. I feel so rejected. i dont feel like this is an example of sisterhood.
Who would i pay my dues to? What would i get out of paying dues? i am a Zeta without a home. |
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Perhaps a ZTA here can offer you some more specific advice/information. Just realize that it's not just you that this happens to, and not just your sorority. I hope that you can find other ways to feel at home on your new campus. |
Yes, I am in good standing.
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I have decided to transfer to Tulane in the spring.
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I apologize. I thought you were talking about Zeta Tau Alpha, not Zeta Phi Beta.
Deleting my post since I am in the wrong lane... |
I am a member of Zeta Tau Alpha. I wasn't accepted to the chapter in the current school i transfered to. I have now decided to transfer to Tulane in the spring because this situation has made me unhappy here.
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As I said in my bagged post - too many people in the past abused the whole transferring option and it's the people coming up now who have to bear the brunt of it. I know it sucks, but honestly, better to not be chosen to affiliate than to be in a chapter that's only taking you grudgingly and pay a mint for it. We ALL have chapters of our sororities where we might not have been accepted. It does seem to fly in the face of the concept of a national organization, but the plain truth is, you can't force sisterhood. |
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Are you seriously going to transfer again just because of a sorority? Would you even be eligible to affiliate at yet another school? Wouldn't you be on alumna status now because you were turned down for affiliation? Does Zeta allow you to go back to active? Those are things you'd better find out before you start chasing another dream. |
I did not originally join Zeta at my last school with the intent of transferring. I transfered to be closer to home because my mother was diagnosed with cancer. I do not intend to affiliate at Tulane. I am just not happy here after being rejected. I suppose what makes matters worse is that my best friend, who is also my rommie, was accepted and and i am excluded from all of the upcoming Zeta activities which she will be participating in.
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If you become alumna status and aren't even allowed to affiliate at another school, aren't you basically being blackballed?
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You can attend alumnae functions, will still receive the magazine and other alumnae perks. You haven't been terminated from the sorority. It's your choice to transfer - if you hadn't, you would have been an active sister all through your college career and become an alumna at graduation. Your college career as far as sorority is just ending a little earlier. |
Yes, Tulane is close to home.
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My freshman year I attended University of Texas. That is where I first pledged Zeta,
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Tulane is just as close to home.
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I attended UT my freshman year where i pledged Zeta.
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I did not even know that once you have been rejected into a chapter that you could no longer affiliate with any chapter anywhere. What is the reasoning behind this? Is this only the case with Zeta Tau Alpha? just curious.
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UT Austin.
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FYI - The ZTA chapter at Tulane closed in 1952. |
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I'm sorry but I just have to say that I find this all rather silly & stupid.
Transferring because of "rejection" from a sorority? WOW. They could have only been allowed to take 2 more girls (from the 6 transfers) because it would've had them at total. |
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well just think about it this way: if you had gone through recruitment at that school, you probably would've gotten a bid from a different chapter.
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Hi everyone,
I am new to greekchat. I'm an AOII alum who is a pediatrician. I just linked to this thread from another thread and as I was reading over it, I was shocked at some of the cutting comments on here. Especially Barbie's Rush. If I am breaking the rules of greekchat, then pardon me, but Barbie's Rush should be ashamed for posting such crude and rude replies to mary 1510. I logged on just to offer my some sympathy and support to mary1510. She stated that she was a Zeta at UT, not UT San Antonio and she stated several times that she did not go to her first university with intentions of transferring to another university. In fact, she stated that she transferred to be closer to home because her mother has breast cancer. And now, the Zeta chapter there has decided not to allow her to affiliate, which, understandably, must be extremely upsetting on it's own, especially given that her roommate was allowed to affiliate and that she has a family crisis. Being an adviser for my own sorority and being familiar with recruitment and affiliation at a large school, I am deeply sorry Mary, sorry that Zeta would not allow you to affiliate, even on a probationary basis, and sorry that your mother has been diagnosed with breast cancer. My understanding is that transfers do not count in chapter total, so the chapter's reason for not allowing you to affiliate is really perplexing to me. Look at it this way, if they did not allow you to affiliate, then you may not have felt comfortable with a group of girls who would take that kind of action against an initiated sister. Since we know it likely isn't a numbers issue and since they declined to offer you even a probationary period, I think it's safe to say that they didn't offer you your deserved level of respect as an initiated sister. And as far as you transferring to a school where you have no reminders of Zeta, sounds like a smart thing. You can then move on from this and focus on college and making new friends outside of Zeta. Then, perhaps you will be able to overlook this and get back involved with Zeta in your alum years. Just know that there are nice women in every chapter and you are likely to meet some of those should you decide to get involved with a Zeta alum chapter after college. And perhaps if you do run into some of the those who rejected you, they will then be mature enough to give you some respect. I know the issue about transferring to another school to affiliate with a desired chapter. I know that is annoying to some people. But that doesn't sound like it's the case here, and regardless, all chapters of a sorority should offer mutual respect and support to sisters. It's disappointing to see someone log on here for support and see someone else, who is likely an npc member herself, cut her down. Not in good character at all. I wish you the best. Quote: Originally Posted by mary1510 http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums...s/viewpost.gif I did not even know that once you have been rejected into a chapter that you could no longer affiliate with any chapter anywhere. What is the reasoning behind this? Is this only the case with Zeta Tau Alpha? just curious. Again, why would it matter if you're not planning on affiliating? Why don't you check with Zeta instead of embarrassing yourself on a public message board where there are girls who go to your school? Quote: Originally Posted by mary1510 http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums...s/viewpost.gif UT Austin. Of course you did. |
great school
Oh and Mary, Tulane is a great school, in case you do transfer.
And re: your dues, I would contact your international headquarters and ask for the college relations specialist (or similar title). I suspect they will want you to pay some type of dues. I would encourage you to do it because you may really want to get involved with Zeta at the alum level and if so, you'll want to be in good standing. Best of luck. |
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And just wow -- logging on just to tell someone else you think she's rude, all the while offering criticisms of another sorority, it chapters and its members. Talk about disrespectful. As you say: Not in good character at all. |
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>> No one told her that she could never affiliate with another chapter of ZTA. People told her to talk to the people who WOULD know, instead of the OP coming here to bash her sorority. |
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Mary, contact your HQ if you have any questions. They will have more appropriate answers for your than GC. |
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a zta alumna here......
mary, i am so sorry to hear that your mother has been diagnosed with cancer. i am sure that your being closer to home is a true comfort to her. i am sorry that you have not been successful in your effort to affiliate with the zta chapter at your present school. under any circumstances, that would be rough, but with your added distress, this has to be especially hard to deal with.
if you left your chapter of initiation in good standing-not owing any bills, not having gotten in trouble or had grade problems,being an initiated member,etc.-then you are allowed to seek to affiliate with the chapter at your school, or to take alumna status. our collegiate chapters have always had the option to decide whether a sister from a different chapter will be allowed to affiliate. each chapter is different and how they go about making their decision is up to them, within general guidelines. none of us can know what this chapters decision was based on. as someone else said, we no longer have an active chapter at tulane-we do have an active chapter at UNO. should you transfer to tulane, i would urge you to get in touch with our new orleans alumnae chapter. i would imagine that they have a variety of ages, and having the support of some sisters at this difficult time could be so good for you, your mother and your family. should you transfer to UNO, i would encourage you to get in touch with the chapter, get to know them and then, if you want, seek affiliation with them. unless you have outstanding bills, you do not need to contact i.o. you do not have to pay dues unless you affiliate with a collegiate chapter or join an alumnae chapter. no matter what, please know that i will be thinking about you and your mother and wishing a complete recovery for her. redrosemd, i appreciate your kind words to mary.i would like you to know that here on greekchat we try not to be critical of other groups or the way they operate. often times it makes no sense to an outsider, but is actually very logical to someone on the inside. |
I'll start with ree-xi:
I politely introduced myself, letting the people in the forum know what I do for a living and that I am an adviser. The fact that I stated that I am a pediatrician was not meant as on offense to anyone and I'm not quite sure why it would be taken as such? Regarding the thread, I found the website at the direction of another alum and I found another thread that had a link to this thread. I referenced it when I said that 'I know the issue about people rushing at one school and transferring to another school. I put that I know that is annoying to others'. There is a whole thread about that in greekchat currently and the fact that people are so bothered by girls doing that. I just acknowledged that. I didn't state in any way that I know anything about this chapter, whether it is desirable or not. That is catty and something I wouldn't try to speculate on. I linked to this thread and was about to log off until I noticed how you and Barbie's rush skewered this girl re: her situation. Even if she is not telling the 'whole story' about her situation, Barbie's Rush, your responses were vapid at best but mostly cruel. It's a shame that that grown women would make such comments to a collegiate. FSUZeta: I read back over my messages and I did not in any way put down or talk negatively about Zeta, period. I pointed out that if these girls chose not to give this girl a chance at affiliation, then perhaps she is better off not being a part of their group. That is completely honest on my part. Who would want to be in a group where she is not wanted? I went on to encourage her to give Zeta a second chance during her alum years and to try to get involved at that time and not hold it against the entire organization-the way she was treated by one chapter. Regardless of which npc we are discussing, I believe it is unfair for an affiliate to be blocked without even a chance of a probationary affiliation. That is my opinion and it is based on the premise of sisterhood and giving that woman a chance. The issue is not exclusive to Zeta by any means, as mentioned in the other forum. I am new to greekchat, and I don't know how to post the link to the other forum but I believe it is in recruitment stories or at least under the recruitment tab. I try to give someone the benefit of the doubt and this girl was obviously voicing her hurt feelings about her interaction with that chapter. I logged on to offer her support, which I did, not to bash Zeta or other members, which I did not do. I merely called out Barbie's rush for her cruel comments and now ree-xi. Telling me to butt out is pretty consistent with the rest of your comments, Barbie's rush. This is an open forum and I hate to see people talking down to collegiate members or pnm's. |
Why is it okay for you to talk down to GC members, call people names, etc. while in the same breath chiding them for doing so as well? Pot, meet kettle.
As with any new group, message board or community you join, it is always a best practice to hang around and get to know the vibe and general way the group works before you start sticking your neck out. You didn't do that here. |
the problem with the written word is that we do not hear the inflections in a persons voice, nor are we able to pick up on facial cues. redrose, many on us reading this thread did interpret your words as negative toward ZTA and its policies-hence the responses you got.
in zta, when a young woman leaves the school where she was initiated into zta, she is considered an alumna, until such a time that she affiliates with another collegiate chapter, so your suggestion that she join an alumnae chapter during her alum. years is a little misleading to the op. she is an alum. now. |
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