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SWTXBelle 08-15-2010 01:19 PM

Rush Right book
 
Any one familiar with this?

http://suresister.com/

It looks promising - especially after reading her story - http://suresister.com/tales.html

AXOrushadvisor 08-15-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1969071)
Any one familiar with this?

http://suresister.com/

It looks promising - especially after reading her story - http://suresister.com/tales.html

I have recommended this to tons of PNM's this year. I think it is great and very informative. The advice seems to be accurate and they have Ambassadors that are in different parts of the country so that seems right to me. They also have a huge facebook page.

carnation 08-15-2010 01:47 PM

Oooo. Looks very interesting.

SWTXBelle 08-15-2010 01:52 PM

I just ordered it - :rolleyes: - will report back!

ComradesTrue 08-15-2010 01:58 PM

A thread was started about a week ago on it. 33girl also reminded us that the author posted on here once upon a time.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=115102

SWTXBelle 08-15-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 1969101)
A thread was started about a week ago on it. 33girl also reminded us that the author posted on here once upon a time.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=115102

Thanks - I ordered it thinking that it might be useful in preparing for recruitment events for my Alumnae Panhellenic - I can either recommend it or tell my pnms to not bother. Of course, I'll have a copy to lend them . . . While of course you can get the info on GC for free, many pnms aren't going to have the patience.

33girl 08-15-2010 09:16 PM

FWIW, she's a Sigma Kappa from the University of Washington.

KSUViolet06 08-15-2010 09:40 PM

Skimmed it.

The book seems to be geared toward socially clueless people who don't have many interview/conversation skills, so I guess if a PNM is clueless/awkward in that regard it may help.

In terms of the process itself, it tends to sugarcoat things and oversimplify them. It's one of those "you are awesome and will be a great asset to a sorority" type of things.



violetpretty 08-16-2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1969288)
FWIW, she's a Sigma Kappa from the University of Washington.

Washington State, actually.

SureSister 09-16-2010 03:12 AM

Thanks AXOrushadvisor and SWTXBelle for your comments.

GreekChat is full of great information for women who are preparing for sorority recruitment, I agree. My staff and I think there is good advice to be found in a variety of places on the net, including on our blog. No charge for reading the blog. :)

http://www.suresister.com/sororityrecruitmentblog/

SWTXBelle 09-16-2010 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SureSister (Post 1984320)
Thanks AXOrushadvisor and SWTXBelle for your comments.

GreekChat is full of great information for women who are preparing for sorority recruitment, I agree. My staff and I think there is good advice to be found in a variety of places on the net, including on our blog. No charge for reading the blog. :)

http://www.suresister.com/sororityrecruitmentblog/

Got the book - my take? While it is true that GC has a great deal of good advice, the book would be a good investment for pnms who don't have an irl source for advice. Finding the right advice here is labor-intensive, and we all know of pnms who don't bother to use/can't find what they need with the search feature.Also, there is also some really off-base advice here, and of course a pnm has no way of which advice is spot-on, and which is a load of hooey.

I think the step by step preparation suggested in "Rush Right" would be a big help to clueless pnms. I've given the book to the recruitment v.p. of our alumnae panhellenic - it will be interesting to see her opinion.

SureSister 09-16-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1984329)
Also, there is also some really off-base advice here, and of course a pnm has no way of which advice is spot-on, and which is a load of hooey.

I'm always looking to improve the content for the next edition of this book. I would welcome a note from you about the off-base advice. You can DM me here or send your thoughts to the general mail box at SureSister.com

KSUViolet06 09-16-2010 01:47 PM

The name SUREsister gives the impression that if you read the book and follow the advice, you WILL get a bid. Not so.

Also, there is a lot of "you WILL make a great asset to a sorority" going on in the book.


honeychile 09-16-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1984473)
The name SUREsister gives the impression that if you read the book and follow the advice, you WILL get a bid. Not so.

Also, there is a lot of "you WILL make a great asset to a sorority" going on in the book.


I don't know about that. Not everyone who reads Vogue registers with a modeling agency, either.

Not everyone who reads ANY self help type book will succeed, either - but it does make it less likely.

And fwiw, I haven't read the book, but I'm assuming it helps a PNM to build some self esteem and learn how to be a better conversationalist.

MysticCat 09-16-2010 02:09 PM

Okay, I have just have to ask this about SureSister's signature: In Panhellenic what?

Panhellenic is an adjective; it needs a noun to modify, but here it's just hanging out there on its own.

Sorry, but it's driving me just a little crazy.

SWTXBelle 09-16-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SureSister (Post 1984470)
I'm always looking to improve the content for the next edition of this book. I would welcome a note from you about the off-base advice. You can DM me here or send your thoughts to the general mail box at SureSister.com

I was referring to the advice here at GC, not the book! :)

SWTXBelle 09-16-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1984488)
Okay, I have just have to ask this about SureSister's signature: In Panhellenic what?

Panhellenic is an adjective; it needs a noun to modify, but here it's just hanging out there on its own.

Sorry, but it's driving me just a little crazy.

I sometimes sign alumnae panhellenic correspondence with "Panhellenically yours".

AZTheta 09-16-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1984637)
I sometimes sign alumnae panhellenic correspondence with "Panhellenically yours".

In that case, wouldn't "panhellenically" be an adjective? or something else? Where're my GC word nerds?

MysticCat 09-16-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1984637)
I sometimes sign alumnae panhellenic correspondence with "Panhellenically yours".

Which, unlike "In Panhellenic," makes grammatical sense. ;)

Barbie's_Rush 09-16-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SureSister (Post 1984470)
I'm always looking to improve the content for the next edition of this book. I would welcome a note from you about the off-base advice. You can DM me here or send your thoughts to the general mail box at SureSister.com


My advice to you would be to quit spamming and pay for real advertising, both here and on Facebook. Your constant posts on sorority Facebook pages make you look desperate.

SWTXBelle 09-17-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 1984641)
In that case, wouldn't "panhellenically" be an adjective? or something else? Where're my GC word nerds?


It's a panhellenic take on "Sincerely yours", which works as a valediction, even if it does not lend itself to easy sentence diagramming. :)

SWTXBelle 10-05-2010 10:31 PM

FWIW - My A.P. sorority recruitment v.p. liked the book and we are having other in the Alumnae Panhellenic read it. The biggest thing it has going for it is a systematic, organized approach for the pnms to follow. The advantage it has over our beloved GC is everything is in one place, it goes step by step, and it makes the pnm think how she is going to distinguish herself from the dozens if not hundreds of pnms going through recruitment with her. Is it a must-have? Not necessarily, but it would be a godsend for many of those clueless pnms who flood the board in the summer.

SureSister 11-03-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1984488)
Okay, I have just have to ask this about SureSister's signature: In Panhellenic what?

Panhellenic is an adjective; it needs a noun to modify, but here it's just hanging out there on its own.

Sorry, but it's driving me just a little crazy.

MysticCat, thank you for your comment.

Like "rush," which is often used as both a noun and a verb, "Panhellenic" is commonly used as an adjective and, on many campuses, "Panhellenic" is used as a noun.

Perhaps these campuses take their lead from the National Panhellenic Conference? You'll find an example of the NPC using Panhellenic as a noun in it's 2010 Annual Report, see page 5.

https://www.npcwomen.org/resources/p...port_FINAL.pdf

Gusteau 11-03-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SureSister (Post 2000776)
MysticCat, thank you for your comment.

Like "rush," which is often used as both a noun and a verb, "Panhellenic" is commonly used as an adjective and, on many campuses, "Panhellenic" is used as a noun.

Perhaps these campuses take their lead from the National Panhellenic Conference? You'll find an example of the NPC using Panhellenic as a noun in it's 2010 Annual Report, see page 5.

https://www.npcwomen.org/resources/p...port_FINAL.pdf

LOL - If "Panhellenic" is used as a noun it colloquially refers to a campus governing body. It still doesn't justify your misuse of it in your signature, sorry.

MysticCat 11-03-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SureSister (Post 2000776)
MysticCat, thank you for your comment.

Like "rush," which is often used as both a noun and a verb, "Panhellenic" is commonly used as an adjective and, on many campuses, "Panhellenic" is used as a noun.

Perhaps these campuses take their lead from the National Panhellenic Conference? You'll find an example of the NPC using Panhellenic as a noun in it's 2010 Annual Report, see page 5.

https://www.npcwomen.org/resources/p...port_FINAL.pdf

"Panhellenic" is an adjective. The fact that "Panhellenic" is also used as a sort of adjectival noun -- which is nothing more than colloquial shorthand by using part of the name to mean the entire name, like calling some educational institutions simply "State" or "Tech" -- doesn't change the fact that it is an adjective.

Beside, as Gusteau says your example does nothing to support the use of "In Panhellenic." Your example of its use as a noun is the usage that means "Panhellenic Council." Are we supposed to interpret your valediction as meaning "In Council"?

Sorry, but unless you can find a credible example of "Panhellinic" being used to mean "Panhellenic Spirit" or something similar, I'm sticking with my opinion that "In Panhellenic" as a valediction looks .. well, stupid.

AlphaFrog 11-03-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2000793)
"Panhellenic" is an adjective. The fact that "Panhellenic" is also used as a sort of adjectival noun -- which is nothing more than colloquial shorthand by using part of the name to mean the entire name, like calling some educational institutions simply "State" or "Tech" -- doesn't change the fact that it is an adjective.

Beside, as Gusteau says your example does nothing to support the use of "In Panhellenic." Your example of its use as a noun is the usage that means "Panhellenic Council." Are we supposed to interpret your valediction as meaning "In Council"?

Sorry, but unless you can find a credible example of "Panhellinic" being used to mean "Panhellenic Spirit" or something similar, I'm sticking with my opinion that "In Panhellenic" as a valediction looks .. well, stupid.

Love it that you are playing Hobbs to her Calvin. :p

MysticCat 11-03-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2000796)
Love it that you are playing Hobbs to her Calvin. :p

Well, she's weirding language. (Or should that be "she's making a weird"?) :p

AlphaFrog 11-03-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2000797)
Well, she's weirding language. (Or should that be "she's making a weird"?) :p

Best part? I'm sure she cluelesses our posting subject.

Drolefille 11-03-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2000793)
"Panhellenic" is an adjective. The fact that "Panhellenic" is also used as a sort of adjectival noun -- which is nothing more than colloquial shorthand by using part of the name to mean the entire name, like calling some educational institutions simply "State" or "Tech" -- doesn't change the fact that it is an adjective.

Beside, as Gusteau says your example does nothing to support the use of "In Panhellenic." Your example of its use as a noun is the usage that means "Panhellenic Council." Are we supposed to interpret your valediction as meaning "In Council"?

Sorry, but unless you can find a credible example of "Panhellinic" being used to mean "Panhellenic Spirit" or something similar, I'm sticking with my opinion that "In Panhellenic" as a valediction looks .. well, stupid.

I agree with you. I wonder if it's an extension of the "In Sigma" or "In *letter here*" that I've seen. But in those cases the recipients know what it stands for and whether the wording is appropriate or makes sense, versus Panhellenic which does not.

exlurker 11-04-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SureSister (Post 2000776)
. . . You'll find an example of the NPC using Panhellenic as a noun in it's 2010 Annual Report, see page 5. . . .

https://www.npcwomen.org/resources/p...port_FINAL.pdf

Not that I have much room to talk; I've had my share of typos, grammar breakdowns, and such. I just thought I'd boldface the "it's" as a reminder:
it's = contraction of "it is;" its = possessive, "belonging to it."

That's right. One more thing that Spellcheck won't normally catch.


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