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honeyD 07-31-2010 03:10 AM

Question!?I need help! (Switch Sorority?)
 
Last year I went to college as a freshmen and joined a sorority to try and make my college experience better along with meeting new people. Over the summer I learned that my parents could not afford to send me to that college any more and I needed to transfer to another college closer to home, and to help out my family. I am at the college were my whole family went and my mom, aunt, cousins, and grandma were all in the same sorority. I want to be able to experience meeting new friends and being in that bond of sisterhood at this new school and in general! But I am in a tough situation because I already had pledged in another sorority at a different college and the sorority is not at my new college. Is there anything I can possibly do to be in the same sorority my mom and family was in at the new college I am at to try and have that sisterhood experience? I understand there are many polocies and rules about this... but this was out of my control! Please let me know if there is anything I can do. Thankyou. :(

Leslie Anne 07-31-2010 03:35 AM

If you joined one of the 26 NPC sororities at your first college and were initiated then it is not possible for you to join another NPC sorority. Sorry but there are no exceptions.

lovespink88 07-31-2010 03:59 AM

OHHHHHHHHH But it was out of your control! Of course they can make an exception!!

/sarcasm

If you initiated in your first group, you cannot join any other NPC group.

AZTheta 07-31-2010 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1961198)
Last year I went to college as a freshmen and joined a sorority to try and make my college experience better along with meeting new people. Over the summer I learned that my parents could not afford to send me to that college any more and I needed to transfer to another college closer to home, and to help out my family. I am at the college were my whole family went and my mom, aunt, cousins, and grandma were all in the same sorority. I want to be able to experience meeting new friends and being in that bond of sisterhood at this new school and in general! But I am in a tough situation because I already had pledged in another sorority at a different college and the sorority is not at my new college. Is there anything I can possibly do to be in the same sorority my mom and family was in at the new college I am at to try and have that sisterhood experience? I understand there are many polocies and rules about this... but this was out of my control! Please let me know if there is anything I can do. Thankyou. :(

QFP.

bostongreek 07-31-2010 05:37 AM

if you change your name, get plastic surgery so that your face is no longer recognizable, and never talk to anyone you knew before again, then maybe.

otherwise no.

TPA85 07-31-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bostongreek (Post 1961212)
if you change your name, get plastic surgery so that your face is no longer recognizable, and never talk to anyone you knew before again, then maybe.

otherwise no.

and get a new SSN.

knight_shadow 07-31-2010 12:26 PM

swerve/

Is this something that isn't taught to new members? Or something that actives would know? It always surprises me that SO MANY people 1) don't know the rules of their organizations/councils and 2) seemingly have no one in the "real world" to ask.

/swerve

ASTalumna06 07-31-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1961265)
swerve/

Is this something that isn't taught to new members? Or something that actives would know? It always surprises me that SO MANY people 1) don't know the rules of their organizations/councils and 2) seemingly have no one in the "real world" to ask.

/swerve

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1961198)
I understand there are many polocies and rules about this... but this was out of my control!

She already knows the answer. She either a) doesn't want to believe it, or b) thinks that they'll actually make an exception for her (because she's special and it was "out of her control")

knight_shadow 07-31-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1961266)
She already knows the answer. She either a) doesn't want to believe it, or b) thinks that they'll actually make an exception for her (because she's special and it was "out of her control")

OK. I remember reading that this morning, but didn't go back when I posted my reply. It's so silly to me that a rule that says "NO EXCEPTIONS" would generate this many questions.

33girl 07-31-2010 12:47 PM

If either the sorority that you joined at your first school, or the one that all your family members were in is a local sorority - i.e., it only exists at your one college and does not have chapters at any other college in the world - then you can join a new one.

But if they are both two of the 26 NPC sororities, then NO, you cannot. It sucks but no exceptions can be made.

ASTalumna06 07-31-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1961269)
OK. I remember reading that this morning, but didn't go back when I posted my reply. It's so silly to me that a rule that says "NO EXCEPTIONS" would generate this many questions.

But don't you get it... SHE'S SPECIAL!

:rolleyes:

Barbie's_Rush 07-31-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1961266)
She already knows the answer. She either a) doesn't want to believe it, or b) thinks that they'll actually make an exception for her (because she's special and it was "out of her control")

My thought has always been that they come here thinking we'll be able to tell them a double secret way to get around the rules because we totally feel sorry for them. Or we will tell them it's ok to lie because OMG it was out of their control in the first place!

I sort of wonder how her family feels about it since they are obviously so devoted to ABC. Would they really truly go along with it just because baby girl feels entitled to haz new sorority now?

Drolefille 07-31-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1961265)
swerve/

Is this something that isn't taught to new members? Or something that actives would know? It always surprises me that SO MANY people 1) don't know the rules of their organizations/councils and 2) seemingly have no one in the "real world" to ask.

/swerve

On top of what everyone else said, I think it's some people's first time associated with any kind of national organization. And they don't quite "get" that ABC at once school is part of the same org as ABC at another, and yes they follow the same national rules and all of them follow the same national conference rules and so on.

They just don't get that it's not the same as joining any other campus organization or association.

Barbie's_Rush 07-31-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1961292)
And they don't quite "get" that ABC at once school is part of the same org as ABC at another, and yes they follow the same national rules and all of them follow the same national conference rules and so on.

Until of course they want to affiliate with a top tier chapter at a super competitive school. Then they're all about sisterhood being for life.......

Miriverite 07-31-2010 02:41 PM

Also useful to mention that if she was previous in an NPC and now trying to join an NPHC (or vice versa), that's also a no go.

Is there some reason why you only feel you can have "sisterhood" in your mother's sorority? Have you thought of colonizing your previous sorority at your new college? That way, you'll have as much control over the "sisterhood" factor as you want without breaking any rules :9

Drolefille 07-31-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1961304)
Until of course they want to affiliate with a top tier chapter at a super competitive school. Then they're all about sisterhood being for life.......

Ha, no those people are well aware of the national org thing.

I believe in not mixing the categories of crazy pnm

33girl 07-31-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Miriverite (Post 1961306)
Have you thought of colonizing your previous sorority at your new college? That way, you'll have as much control over the "sisterhood" factor as you want without breaking any rules :9

That's much easier said than done.

I'm also sure the rest of her family would really love that concept.

bostongreek 08-01-2010 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Miriverite (Post 1961306)
Have you thought of colonizing your previous sorority at your new college? That way, you'll have as much control over the "sisterhood" factor as you want without breaking any rules :9

this is almost as bad as telling girls they can ai.

ree-Xi 08-01-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Miriverite (Post 1961306)
Also useful to mention that if she was previous in an NPC and now trying to join an NPHC (or vice versa), that's also a no go.

Is there some reason why you only feel you can have "sisterhood" in your mother's sorority? Have you thought of colonizing your previous sorority at your new college? That way, you'll have as much control over the "sisterhood" factor as you want without breaking any rules :9

How would that give her "control"? There are a lot of assumptions here.

A. That her new school is open for expansion.
B. That the sorority is interested in that campus.
C. That Panhel would invite that sorority to present.
D. That the sorority would be invited to colonize.
E. That the sorority would vote/select her to affiliate with the new chapter (depending on the rules of affiliation in the organization).

KSUViolet06 08-01-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1961266)
She already knows the answer. She either a) doesn't want to believe it, or b) thinks that they'll actually make an exception for her (because she's special and it was "out of her control")

This.

They know, they just somehow think that they are in some sort of "special situation" that warrants and exception.

And the expansion suggestion is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

honeyD 08-09-2010 05:52 PM

Clearly I understand the rules now, thankyou. But hypothetically speaking, If I were to rush at my new college how would they find out that I have been in a sorority at my previous college????

KSUViolet06 08-09-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1965657)
Clearly I understand the rules now, thankyou. But hypothetically speaking, If I were to rush at my new college how would they find out that I have been in a sorority at my previous college????

The Greek world is much much smaller than you may think. People talk.

You are welcome to try if you do not believe me.

I've never known anyone to not be found out.

knight_shadow 08-09-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1961292)
On top of what everyone else said, I think it's some people's first time associated with any kind of national organization. And they don't quite "get" that ABC at once school is part of the same org as ABC at another, and yes they follow the same national rules and all of them follow the same national conference rules and so on.

They just don't get that it's not the same as joining any other campus organization or association.

I just saw this, since the OP bumped this thread.

I guess it's just another "us vs. them" thing. We were taught that membership is national and that your loyalty lies with the organization, not necessarily the chapter. I'm just amazed at how many times this question comes up.

Alumiyum 08-09-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1965657)
Clearly I understand the rules now, thankyou. But hypothetically speaking, If I were to rush at my new college how would they find out that I have been in a sorority at my previous college????

If you walk into Wal-Mart, steal a digital camera, and never get caught, is it ok?

I know that not every sorority is the same. But working on the premise that they all involve, at some point before or during the initiation process, a promise to uphold certain values and to remain loyal to that sorority, pledging another after making that promise shows that it didn't mean much in the first place, and makes it likely it won't mean much the second time around, either. It's also dishonest.

Assuming you'll spend years at your new school in the age of facebook, myspace, and messageboards like these and never get found out isn't smart. And when you do get caught you will lose membership in BOTH organizations. Your friends from both organizations very well might dislike you for lying to both of them.

I am in a different sorority than any other member of my family, including many female cousins, my grandmothers, mother, aunts, sister-in-laws, etc. I am the only XYZ, though seven of those female family members, including my mother, are in the same sorority. And we still connect because we are all greek, and there are many experiences in greek life that are fairly universal. I enjoy being in a different sorority than my mother. I have my own world, but we have common ground in that we're both greek. Find a different way to get involved on your campus. There are plenty of organizations besides GLO's that are fun and useful. Habitat for Humanity, honor societies, service organizations, clubs in your major, intramurals...you can find something, I'm sure of it.

KSUViolet06 08-09-2010 06:17 PM

Exactly.

LOL @ anyone thinking they could pull this off in the age of FB/MySpace/Twitter/etc.

Unless you plan on living in an underground bunker of some sort, it's not happening.

You're welcome to try however. lol
.

Alumiyum 08-09-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1965668)
I just saw this, since the OP bumped this thread.

I guess it's just another "us vs. them" thing. We were taught that membership is national and that your loyalty lies with the organization, not necessarily the chapter. I'm just amazed at how many times this question comes up.

That's what I was taught as well. I've never been under the impression that being initiated into a sorority was something to take lightly, especially as most of my family is greek and I knew very well that once you've promised to be loyal to that organization, it's either them or none at all. I personally suspect the question is asked in the hopes that there is some loophole, or as a way to help the poster rationalize a decision they've already made. It's possible they weren't informed, I guess, but I doubt that's the case.

knight_shadow 08-09-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1965691)
That's what I was taught as well. I've never been under the impression that being initiated into a sorority was something to take lightly, especially as most of my family is greek and I knew very well that once you've promised to be loyal to that organization, it's either them or none at all. I personally suspect the question is asked in the hopes that there is some loophole, or as a way to help the poster rationalize a decision they've already made. It's possible they weren't informed, I guess, but I doubt that's the case.

I can see her seeking validation, but the "seeking a loophole" part is what irks me.

"No exceptions" means "no exceptions" (as far as membership is concerned). If I REALLY wanted to find something out, I'd 1) consult my org's/council's constitution, bylaws, or SOPs* or 2) ask a real, live member.

*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?

Alumiyum 08-09-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1965703)
I can see her seeking validation, but the "seeking a loophole" part is what irks me.

"No exceptions" means "no exceptions" (as far as membership is concerned). If I REALLY wanted to find something out, I'd 1) consult my org's/council's constitution, bylaws, or SOPs* or 2) ask a real, live member.

*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?

You'd think that would be those would be the first logical sources.

I don't even know to be honest, except that when I was on the Panhellenic council I had one. Even if the chapter members didn't all they had to do was ask one of us or our Greek Advisor.

honeyD 08-09-2010 06:49 PM

never said I would actually do it....just curious.....maybe the rules should change since apparently this question gets brought up so many times, or better awarness of this rule should be made to girls before pledging. Alot of girls who are in this situation never fully understood the rules in the first place because all the NPC and greek terms are hard to understand and the girl just wants to pledge and be in the sorority and get it all over with anyway...remember when you were a freshmen and pledged??? Also most girls in this tranfer situation just want a way to have that "college experience" of fitting in some where and making friends easily who are like them. It would be hard to all the sudden just start/colonize a new sorority especially since your knew to the school, have no friends, and dont know your way around and dont know much about greek life anyway (and dont have much time to learn im only 18). Also im not sure most girls want to join different kinds of clubs for instance, something in there major, or habitat for humanity or something like that. Those are great things to be apart of but not the type of "experience and belonging" a young girl really wants be apart of coming to a new school. A sorority is just a really easy way to meet girls your age younger and older, feel apart of the school, and have friends for life and have something to be loyal to. Im not just trying to use a sorority to get a way to meet new friends, a sorority is just a great thing to be apart of in college. (Im not sure habitat for humanity or another local club or you know what i mean can really give the girl what she is looking for in her new college experience). Like I said those things are great and admiral things to be apart of but do not include the whole package.

knight_shadow 08-09-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1965717)
never said I would actually do it....just curious.....maybe the rules should change since apparently this question gets brought up so many times, or better awarness of this rule should be made to girls before pledging. Alot of girls who are in this situation never fully understood the rules in the first place because all the NPC and greek terms are hard to understand and the girl just wants to pledge and be in the sorority and get it all over with anyway...remember when you were a freshmen and pledged??? Also most girls in this tranfer situation just want a way to have that "college experience" of fitting in some where and making friends easily who are like them. It would be hard to all the sudden just start/colonize a new sorority especially since your knew to the school, have no friends, and dont know your way around and dont know much about greek life anyway (and dont have much time to learn im only 18). Also im not sure most girls want to join different kinds of clubs for instance, something in there major, or habitat for humanity or something like that. Those are great things to be apart of but not the type of "experience and belonging" a young girl really wants be apart of coming to a new school. A sorority is just a really easy way to meet girls your age younger and older, feel apart of the school, and have friends for life and have something to be loyal to. Im not just trying to use a sorority to get a way to meet new friends, a sorority is just a great thing to be apart of in college. (Im not sure habitat for humanity or another local club or you know what i mean can really give the girl what she is looking for in her new college experience). Like I said those things are great and admiral things to be apart of but do not include the whole package.

Lack of understanding does not make it a bad rule. More girls (people, really) need to become familiar with the rules that govern their respective organizations :)

And bullshit @ "never said I would actually do it"

Drolefille 08-09-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1965668)
I just saw this, since the OP bumped this thread.

I guess it's just another "us vs. them" thing. We were taught that membership is national and that your loyalty lies with the organization, not necessarily the chapter. I'm just amazed at how many times this question comes up.

We're taught that too, but I just think some people are naive. And since you join the NPC early and THEN learn these things vs learning a lot to even be considered to join other orgs, that's the us vs. them part, I think.

honeyD 08-09-2010 07:00 PM

haha never said it was a bad rule and once again never said I would actually do it. I just want more information on Greek life, the rules, and process, since clearly I did not understand to begin with. Thanks for you kind feed back Knight Shadow.

Alumiyum 08-09-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1965717)
never said I would actually do it....just curious.....maybe the rules should change since apparently this question gets brought up so many times, or better awarness of this rule should be made to girls before pledging. Alot of girls who are in this situation never fully understood the rules in the first place because all the NPC and greek terms are hard to understand and the girl just wants to pledge and be in the sorority and get it all over with anyway...remember when you were a freshmen and pledged??? Also most girls in this tranfer situation just want a way to have that "college experience" of fitting in some where and making friends easily who are like them. It would be hard to all the sudden just start/colonize a new sorority especially since your knew to the school, have no friends, and dont know your way around and dont know much about greek life anyway (and dont have much time to learn im only 18). Also im not sure most girls want to join different kinds of clubs for instance, something in there major, or habitat for humanity or something like that. Those are great things to be apart of but not the type of "experience and belonging" a young girl really wants be apart of coming to a new school. A sorority is just a really easy way to meet girls your age younger and older, feel apart of the school, and have friends for life and have something to be loyal to. Im not just trying to use a sorority to get a way to meet new friends, a sorority is just a great thing to be apart of in college. (Im not sure habitat for humanity or another local club or you know what i mean can really give the girl what she is looking for in her new college experience). Like I said those things are great and admiral things to be apart of but do not include the whole package.

You've given the impression that you are seriously considering it. I hope you don't, but of course that's all up to you.

I do remember being a new member very well because it was all very exciting. I remember being told and knowing that were I to be initiated, that was it. I chose to do that and have never considered breaking that promise. As you have said you have family members that are greek, and have been initiated, you really should know this. A college freshman shouldn't be expected to know everything that a graduate does, but it's time to get some gumption and learn the rules for yourself. That's a member's responsibility. If I go 70 in a 35 and tell the police officer I didn't know the speed limit was 35, he's still going to give me a ticket, because ignorance of the law doesn't give me the right to break it.

I have many friends who are also sorority sisters that I value very much, but I have just as many if not more that are not. You can develop close bonds with or without the sorority, and since your choices now are to be dishonest or develop close friendships outside of your sorority, I would personally suggest that second option. I really do think you can meet new friends and make great memories even without your chapter being on campus. It really sucks that you don't get to be an active for four years, but sometimes we get thrown into situations like that.

KSUViolet06 08-09-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1965717)
never said I would actually do it....just curious.....maybe the rules should change since apparently this question gets brought up so many times, or better awarness of this rule should be made to girls before pledging. Alot of girls who are in this situation never fully understood the rules in the first place because all the NPC and greek terms are hard to understand and the girl just wants to pledge and be in the sorority and get it all over with anyway...remember when you were a freshmen and pledged??? Also most girls in this tranfer situation just want a way to have that "college experience" of fitting in some where and making friends easily who are like them. It would be hard to all the sudden just start/colonize a new sorority especially since your knew to the school, have no friends, and dont know your way around and dont know much about greek life anyway (and dont have much time to learn im only 18). Also im not sure most girls want to join different kinds of clubs for instance, something in there major, or habitat for humanity or something like that. Those are great things to be apart of but not the type of "experience and belonging" a young girl really wants be apart of coming to a new school. A sorority is just a really easy way to meet girls your age younger and older, feel apart of the school, and have friends for life and have something to be loyal to. Im not just trying to use a sorority to get a way to meet new friends, a sorority is just a great thing to be apart of in college. (Im not sure habitat for humanity or another local club or you know what i mean can really give the girl what she is looking for in her new college experience). Like I said those things are great and admiral things to be apart of but do not include the whole package.

That's all well and good but it does not change the rule.

agzg 08-09-2010 08:10 PM

I want to take part in all these admiral things. :D

honeyD, obviously I was never a NM in your chapter but in mine it was very clearly and explicitly stated (from day 1) that, upon initiation, a woman may not join any other NPC or NPHC organization. If you feel you didn't know that, you should talk to your sisters at your former campus and make sure that they emphasize that in the future.

33girl 08-09-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1965717)
never said I would actually do it....just curious.....maybe the rules should change since apparently this question gets brought up so many times, or better awareness of this rule should be made to girls before pledging. A lot of girls who are in this situation never fully understood the rules in the first place because all the NPC and greek terms are hard to understand and the girl just wants to pledge and be in the sorority and get it all over with anyway...remember when you were a freshmen and pledged??? Also most girls in this tranfer situation just want a way to have that "college experience" of fitting in some where and making friends easily who are like them. It would be hard to all the sudden just start/colonize a new sorority especially since your knew to the school, have no friends, and dont know your way around and dont know much about greek life anyway (and dont have much time to learn im only 18). Also im not sure most girls want to join different kinds of clubs for instance, something in there major, or habitat for humanity or something like that. Those are great things to be apart of but not the type of "experience and belonging" a young girl really wants be apart of coming to a new school. A sorority is just a really easy way to meet girls your age younger and older, feel apart of the school, and have friends for life and have something to be loyal to. Im not just trying to use a sorority to get a way to meet new friends, a sorority is just a great thing to be apart of in college. (Im not sure habitat for humanity or another local club or you know what i mean can really give the girl what she is looking for in her new college experience). Like I said those things are great and admiral things to be apart of but do not include the whole package.

First off, the phrases are spelled A LOT and A PART. See the big bar at the bottom of your keyboard? It isn't there for decoration. And this isn't texting so you don't have to limit your characters. Please practice writing/typing like an educated adult.

As for the rest of your post -

No, I didn't "just want to pledge and get it over with." I enjoyed every minute of my pledge time. If you didn't, maybe you should have quit before you were initiated and you wouldn't be in this predicament.

Financial aid terms are also "hard to understand." But I guarantee you that if you default on your student loan "not understanding" isn't going to get you any sympathy.

I don't think it's just that this (i.e. you cannot join another NPC once you initiate into one) isn't being taught to the pledges...I think it's a generational loss of the overall concept of loyalty.

ThetaPrincess24 08-09-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by honeyD (Post 1965657)
Clearly I understand the rules now, thankyou. But hypothetically speaking, If I were to rush at my new college how would they find out that I have been in a sorority at my previous college????

As a recruitment/membership/panhellenic advisor I would strongly advise against that.

We had a girl already this summer sign up for recruitment at the school I advise. She was a transfer student from another school in the state and was greek there. She signed up for recruitment at the school I advise, I caught that, let the greek advisor at my school know (who was also an alum from the transfer school), she contacted the greek advisor at that school, found out she wasnt a member of a group on my campus trying to affiliate, and she has since been booted from recruitment.

If you do this and you are found out, you will lose membership in BOTH organizations. NPC/NPHC groups dont look kindly on "sorority perps!"

ThetaPrincess24 08-09-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1965703)
*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?

My organization makes the entire/most current NPC Manual available to all members in the passworded section of our website. I'm sure other organizations out there have a similar means of getting the information to their members.

In addition, I would think all groups have their national constitution & bylaws online somewhere for all initiated members to have access to. I would also think that all new members once initiated would get a hard copy of their org's national constitution & bylaws, plus a copy of the chapter's bylaws as well.

Alumiyum 08-09-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1965788)
First off, the phrases are spelled A LOT and A PART. See the big bar at the bottom of your keyboard? It isn't there for decoration. And this isn't texting so you don't have to limit your characters. Please practice writing/typing like an educated adult.

As for the rest of your post -

No, I didn't "just want to pledge and get it over with." I enjoyed every minute of my pledge time. If you didn't, maybe you should have quit before you were initiated and you wouldn't be in this predicament.

Financial aid terms are also "hard to understand." But I guarantee you that if you default on your student loan "not understanding" isn't going to get you any sympathy.

I don't think it's just that this (i.e. you cannot join another NPC once you initiate into one) isn't being taught to the pledges...I think it's a generational loss of the overall concept of loyalty.

I disagree that it's a generational thing. I think it's a personal problem.

Since the OP said that many family members are Greek and would therefore know the ins and outs of Greek life, I think it's likely that this rule was probably not actually news...just a major inconvenience.

To the OP, another solution to your problem would be to get involved with local young alums of your sorority in your area. I know of women that transferred from my alma mater and did this so that they could still enjoy the organization, even though we were not present on their new campus. There are plenty of ways to experience your organization other than as an active collegian. You could also see if there is a group on your new campus for other displaced Greeks, or ask the Greek Advisor on campus if it would be possible to start one. That way fraternity and sorority members in the same position could have a way to bond and friends to hang out with and sympathize. And every now and then when you have time and gas money you could meet up with your pledge sisters. It might be fun, if it's possible, to pick a town in between the two schools and hang out together on a Saturday. (That was another solution of sorority sisters of mine that transferred.)

Alumiyum 08-09-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1965797)
My organization makes the entire/most current NPC Manual available to all members in the passworded section of our website. I'm sure other organizations out there have a similar means of getting the information to their members.

In addition, I would think all groups have their national constitution & bylaws online somewhere for all initiated members to have access to. I would also think that all new members once initiated would get a hard copy of their org's national constitution & bylaws, plus a copy of the chapter's bylaws as well.

Unfortunately, that's not always the case. However, even if members are not provided with these documents, someone in the chapter has them. It would surely be as easy as asking the chapter president for a copy, or an appointment time to read over the documents. It just takes a little asking, and a tiny bit of effort.


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