University of Arizona recruitment
 

Hi all!
I am new here and had a quick question! I am preparing to rush at University of Arizona in the fall and had a few quick questions regarding rush.

1.) For set 1, is it really okay to wear shorts? If so, what kind of shorts? Because I read the guidebook and they said shorts were recommended, but does this look like you aren't trying hard enough?

2.) Are sleeveless shirts okay to wear, or does that look too "sexy?"

3.) How tough is rush at UofA? I honestly have no idea.

4.) How does choosing houses work for every set? When do you rank which houses you like, and how to do you end up with one at the end?

5.) Also, my most important question is does set 1 go all the way up until 8 PM, or does it ever end earlier? And when do you get to know which houses you see for day 1 and day 2 of set 1? Can you ask your recruitment counsler and can she tell you? Or does she not know?

6.) Also, how do groups work? Are you grouped a certain way for rush?

Sorry, I don't know much about rush yet. Thanks for your help

Thread specifically about UA:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=92840

We have a really good advice thread that explains a lot about how recruitment works in general:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...General+Advice

Recruitment is a mutual selection process. Each day, you will rank the chapters in the order of how much you'd like to return to them for the next round. At the same time, the CHAPTERS are deciding which PNMs they'd like to invite back. So it's not just PNMs choosing chapters.

Reading the threads above should really clarify a lot of your questions.

Good luck.

thanks. I read all of those! any more general advice about uofa??

I'm going through recruitment at the UA as well. I've spoken to women about what to wear and what the UA has recommended. I personally will not be wearing shorts--I am a skirt and dress kind of girl- if you want to wear them, go for it, but I would avoid destroyed jean shorts or anything too short, thumb length would probably be better. Remember, we should dress as we are most comfortable but also to impress, you want to show that you care about the impression you make. I think tank tops would be fine, as long as bra straps are NOT visible, and they are not the cheap ribbed kind--they should be dressier if it's to be worn at recruitment.

In terms of general advice about it, from what I have read on GC (and I have looked through quite a bit of threads) try to get some recommendations, better safe than sorry. I think, generally, that the best advice I have gotten is to go in with an open mind and a great attitude, recruitment should be a positive experience.

Did you get the mailer--The Bond? that has all the times for each set outlined. The days vary on ending between 7 and 8. I'm assuming that we will find out our groups and schedule for set I on the meeting on the 16th.

I only know of two people going through recruitment so feel free to PM me.

Thanks for your help!! Im glad I am not going through this alone. I was thinking maybe white shorts and a cute shirt for one of the days? Also, do you think that they will go that late though? I read that on the schedule but didn't know if maybe it would end earlier or something. I got the Bond, and I read through it and have been reading through these things religiously! I agree though, I started planning my set 1 outfits and they were pretty casual, but after hearing what you have to say maybe casual isn't the way to go!

I think the white shorts and a nice blouse would be fine--watch for VPL though. Casual for set I will be fine I am sure, the days should get progressively dressier. I have always maintained that being over-dressed is better than under-dressed, but there is a fine line there--I wouldn't wear anything fancier than sun and day dresses up until set III. Personally, I hope that the days go that late. Yes, we will be tired, but the longer the day, the longer we spent at each house discerning if it could be our future home or not. Besides, I think it's a fair bet that the sorority women will be much more tired than us, they have to worry about set up and clean up, when we get to fill out our days choices and go to sleep ;)

yeah haha i dont really care how long it goes it's just that on set 1 one of the days I start work at 7. so i'll either just be late to work or see how things go

Oooh okay, that makes more sense, but you may want to try to change your shift or something if you can, I really think it's better if we are at all the events we get invited to.

can't you do something called speed rush on one of the days? someone at the orientation meeting said it's a possibility.

Not worth it at a school as competitive as U of A. Your job can bend, you can cover your shift (its still early). If you REALLY want to go greek, you will make it work. There will always be other jobs (I mean not in real life...but when you're 18...yeah).

well maybe I will just have to skip a party. I will still get to see 10 sororities. it really sucks and I wish I could reschedule but I can't. I work for my Dad, so no one can "cover" for me. and I asked him if I could skip work and he said no. and he pays for my school as well as if I am in a sorority. so I literally have no choice.

okay. I will check and see what they have to say when the time comes. if they are going to kick me out for missing a party, then I for sure need to speed rush that day.

To the OP:

1) It is HOT and may also rain, and yes, you will see PNMs in shorts, flip flops, tshirts, tanks, etc. during the first round. IMO if the shorts outfit is cute and well put together (and not a pair of cutoffs and a very revealing tank with bra straps showing) that is fine. You can't go wrong with a cute sundress or skirt and it will make a better impression.

2) Sleeveless shirts: fine, as long as you are not falling out in the front. Remember, you want to be remembered for your personality and other strengths, not as "that girl with the cleavage". Seriously.

3) Recruitment is VERY competitive. in August 2009 1200 PNMs signed up and close to that number went through the first set of parties. Be prepared for heavy cuts if you do not have a stellar GPA, recommendations, and a strong resume. The U of A uses RFM and the first round cuts can be a shock to many unprepared PNMs. Work on your conversation skills.

4) I advise against "speed rushing". You need to be fully present for each party you are invited to. Yes, parties go until the times stated. I have not heard of PNMs "speed rushing" at UofA; please check with your Recruitment Counselor or the Greek Life Office.

5) KSUViolet06 has provided excellent links on recruitment. Read those. And ask the Greek Life Office how recruitment groups are organized. That office is your best source of information for the University of Arizona.

Good luck to you and I hope everything will work out well for you.

I don't mean for this to be mean sounding, but I think you need to completely re-evaluate whether or not greeklife is for you. There are a lot of mandatory meetings and activities especially when you are a new member plus lots of fun things you just won't want to miss. If your dad isn't willing or able to give up an hour or two of your time for rush, things are going to get pretty stressful pretty fast if you end up in a sorority. You need to talk to him now about what all of it will mean for the next four years.

I haven't heard of speed rushing either. Missing a party on your first days would not be a good thing at all either.

I would wear a skirt or cute casual dress, not the shorts. You will be really unhappy in white shorts if it rains!

I disagree. Sorority women work too. Facing the possibility of missing one party of 10, or better, splitting a party so time is spent with both chapters, is not a "Greek life is not for you" sign.

However you do need to talk to your dad. Even if there's a reason why he can't give you time that night, you need to tell him that you will have chapter meetings and other required events, and you will have to be present for every hour of rush too. (Plus workshops ahead of time and meetings after.)

Sorry but you're not at all familiar with the way things work at my school. This is a big deal.

What is? Missing a party? No I get that. But it doesn't mean re-evaluating whether Greek Life is "right for her."

I'd be surprised if U of AZ is the only school where Greek women don't have to balance work, sorority and academics.

ETA: It's always more useful if you explain what the "big deal" is when you assume someone's not getting it.

All of it's a big deal you condescending toad. Missing a party will definitely get her released from that chapter and very well may get her released from recruitment completely.

The even bigger deal is that dad is already threatening her financially. The recruitment schedule has been available for months. Recruitment is still a couple weeks away but he's not willing to make any acommodations for her. Work happens but to gave this kind of drama before you're even a member I'd something that she really needs to consider and talk to her dad about. Being a sister is a big responsibility and they both need to know about it since he's paying her way AND her boss.

Aw you're cute.


Hence why I said "I get that." It sounds like she's gotten that advice and knows who to talk to about it.

Thus far he's only said "you can't be off work that night." We don't know if there's a reason why he can't spare her that one night or not. Or if this is a pattern of financial manipulation or not.

Hence why I, among others, have recommended she talk to her dad about it and make sure he's aware of the time commitment. Even if there's no way she can get out of work this one night.

She should talk to her dad, but this isn't actually "drama." Not as of yet. It sounds like you're projecting other experiences into the things that this individual PNM has actually said.
Agree completely.

Ribit ribit.

I'm just stating how things are today at my school. Not how they were 150 million years ago at some commuter school with no greeklife to speak of.

When I was in school '150 million years ago," a standard essay question always started out "Compare and contrast." Let's compare and contrast these posts.

This would be considered respectful discourse.

This would be considered an arrogant, disrepectful and insolent respsonse coming from a brat. :rolleyes:

//Putting away red pen.

Sorry I didn't mean to start any fights. But to answer your questions, my dad is in the catering business and I was supposed to help clean up a wedding afterwards. It doesn't sound like that big of a deal, and I guess my dad just is big on responsibility and obligation. I am going to try to talk to him again and see what I can do, but your generalization about my dad isn't correct. He doesn't usually do this, only when I have an obligation to do something. So he understands that when I'm in a sorority that is a commitment I have made and he is willing to support that financially 100%. It does concern me about how competitive you have made recruitment out to be at UofA (and I'm sure you're right) so I am going to try to figure things out and not miss anything. Because I KNOW greek life is for me, I've thought about it for a long time and know it's at least worth trying. (Especially because I already registered, why would I waste the money and potentially miss out on an amazing opportunity to become a part of a new family???)

also, thanks everyone for taking the time to give me great advice on recruitment. i will certainly follow it.

Who Drole, that must make you the world's oldest woman. And you can't truly be in a sorority since you went to a school with no greek life.

I am the Ur-Greek. The true Greek from which all Greeks descended.

Apparently I also speak frog or something. I have no idea why I got ribit [sic] as a response.

Back in MY day... 8 years ago... we were LUCKY if we learned to speak amphibian. And you mammals were Sooooooooo overrated.

Definitely try to figure out a way not to miss parties with the "speed party" thing as a last resort. Maybe volunteer for some extra work in advance to make it up to your dad and tell him you would not have asked to break a commitment unless you thought you had to.

Good luck and do let us know how everything turns out!

ETA: You didn't start any fights, that's just how message boards work at times. Tangents happen all over.

Okay! I'll do a rush story as soon as rush starts:)

Sometimes there are conflicts during recruitment with other school related activities - marching band is a very common one. Please contact the Greek Life office at UA and talk with them about it. I'm sure they have dealt with this before.

Sounds good, read through some of other stories here and consider doing a delayed story to relieve stress on yourself as well as avoid making it obvious what your thoughts are on certain chapters during recruitment.

Haha I've read through them! And that's a good idea, I'll do it right afterwards. And I'll for sure contact the Greek Office, thanks for your help:)

See if you can get one of your friends or someone else to help him out (and they can earn a little extra $$). Tell him that if you have to miss a party or do the abbreviated rush, you may be seriously jeopardizing your chances at the group that is right for you (and therefore throwing your rush fee down the toilet).

When do we find out who our Recruitment Counselor is? At the PNM meeting?

That's pretty standard. Even if you don't get assigned one then, that's a good time to find one and ask questions.

Alrighty then. I hope that the OP and whoever else is lurking but going through recruitment at the University of Arizona took the time to read my post, as well as the other posts which contained great information.

And to Drolefille - you might be the Ur-Greek, but I went to school when God was a baby. So what does that make me? *ducks and runs for the bleachers, spilling popcorn and coke along the way*

Old as hell?

I kid!

Dance party!
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^^^^ just spit iced coffee all over my laptop screen!

AZTheta, I read your post and appreciate your advice! Thanks for taking the time to help me out, as I don't know too much about recruitment yet!