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thebest09 07-28-2010 12:48 AM

Could I go through Membership Intake
 
I am pursuing a divine nine fraternity and the minimum gpa is 2.5 and I have a 2.492 do you think they would be able to make an exception since im only .008 away

Senusret I 07-28-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1959755)
I am pursuing a divine nine fraternity and the minimum gpa is 2.5 and I have a 2.492 do you think they would be able to make an exception since im only .008 away


Sorry homie -- grades are the one thing we can't budge on. Good luck to you as you work hard toward better grades.

By the way -- falsifying a transcript will get you expelled from school, your membership in an organization revoked, and depending on the state, might even land you in jail. DO NOT TAKE THE RISK, even if you know somebody who can "fix" a grade for you.

BluPhire 07-28-2010 08:37 AM

Like Sen said, you are out of luck.

Since you are point .008 away I suggest you get yourself a couple of A's to pull that up so you can.

Don't know if you are going into your Sophomore year, but if so you can always be prepped for a possible Spring line (not every chapter has the ability to cross lines per semester).

DrPhil 07-28-2010 09:55 AM

To be honest, there are instances where GPAs have been rounded up. This doesn't happen for every chapter and there are organizations with chapters that are more prone to round up than others. It's a factor of the GPA distribution of the pool of applicants, the GPA distribution of the chapter, and what the chapter (and local and national offices) will tolerate. BUT, WE CAN'T FORESEE THE FUTURE AND TELL YOU WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE IN YOUR CASE.

Disclaimer:
Grades are extremely important and there are unfortunate circumstances where students don't reach their maximum potential (i.e. family problems, illness, depression, etc.). There are also circumstances that are completely within the student's control (i.e. laziness). The key is to address these issues and reach a better YOU so that you can hopefully reach membership in a frat. :) A lot of people have to wait to pursue membership or don't get accepted the first time(s) they try. There's a reason why NPHC orgs don't restrict applications on the basis of year in college and age during and post-college. Just know that your GPA will still be a factor if you wait a couple of years and pursue graduate/alumni membership. Good luck. :D

rhoyaltempest 07-28-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1959813)
To be honest, there are instances where GPAs have been rounded up. This doesn't happen for every chapter and there are organizations with chapters that are more prone to round up than others. It's a factor of the GPA distribution of the pool of applicants, the GPA distribution of the chapter, and what the chapter (and local and national offices) will tolerate. BUT, WE CAN'T FORESEE THE FUTURE AND TELL YOU WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE IN YOUR CASE.

Disclaimer:
Grades are extremely important and there are unfortunate circumstances where students don't reach their maximum potential (i.e. family problems, illness, depression, etc.). There are also circumstances that are completely within the student's control (i.e. laziness). The key is to address these issues and reach a better YOU so that you can hopefully reach membership in a frat. :) A lot of people have to wait to pursue membership or don't get accepted the first time(s) they try. There's a reason why NPHC orgs don't restrict applications on the basis of year in college and age during and post-college. Just know that your GPA will still be a factor if you wait a couple of years and pursue graduate/alumni membership. Good luck. :D

Not in SGRho. If the transcript does not report a cumulative 2.5 or better, it's not going down. As it is, a 2.5 is nothing to write home about, which is why there are instances where a chapter may get permission/approval to raise the GPA beyond a 2.5.

DrPhil 07-28-2010 10:50 AM

He doesn't want to be an SGRho. He also doesn't want to be in my sorority which now has a 2.75 minimum gpa. :)

Whether or not the frat that he's interested in can or will round up is something that he needs to figure out.

rhoyaltempest 07-28-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1959839)
He doesn't want to be an SGRho. He also doesn't want to be in my sorority which now has a 2.75 minimum gpa. :)

Whether or not the frat that he's interested in can or will round up is something that he needs to figure out.

LOL! I thought you were implying that all of us have incidents of rounding off the GPA. And congrats on the higher GPA.

BluPhire 07-28-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1959839)
He doesn't want to be an SGRho. He also doesn't want to be in my sorority which now has a 2.75 minimum gpa. :)

Whether or not the frat that he's interested in can or will round up is something that he needs to figure out.

And that is a huge gamble because while I have heard of some rounding up, it does not guarantee membership, nor any possible University restrictions.

Of course I'm saying this based on limited info that was presented (like school he plans on trying to cross at.)

Also some chapters you may make the cut nationally, but chapter-wise you may get rejected (unless you are already tight with the current members of the org.)

I know the Alpha's from our campus it was 3.0 unless they wanted to make an exception for you.

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1959863)
LOL! I thought you were implying that all of us have incidents of rounding off the GPA. And congrats on the higher GPA.

That reminds me of a topic I was debating about posting.

DrPhil 07-28-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 1959865)
...while I have heard of some rounding up....

That's the only point that I was making.

BluPhire 07-28-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1959882)
That's the only point that I was making.

Sorry, meant that as a piggyback off your comment.

thebest09 07-28-2010 05:34 PM

I want to join kappa alpha psi. My current university you only need a 2.0 to go through intake. There were some akas at my school who didn't have a 2.5 and crossed. I figured the 2.5 was a soft minimum


I'm also going into my junior year

Drolefille 07-28-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1960069)
I want to join kappa alpha psi. My current university you only need a 2.0 to go through intake. There were some akas at my school who didn't have a 2.5 and crossed. I figured the 2.5 was a soft minimum


I'm also going into my junior year

So who do you think you should ask about this?

Hint: Greekchat is not the right answer.

thebest09 07-28-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1960071)
So who do you think you should ask about this?

Hint: Greekchat is not the right answer.

No need to be rude

Redemption 07-28-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1959755)
I am pursuing a divine nine fraternity and the minimum gpa is 2.5 and I have a 2.492 do you think they would be able to make an exception since im only .008 away

NO WAY!

knight_shadow 07-28-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Redemption (Post 1960075)
NO WAY!

Who are you?

Drolefille 07-28-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1960074)
No need to be rude

No, rude would be pointing out that you should probably focus on school as a priority right now. Oh wait, that's not rude either, that's advice.

BluPhire 07-28-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1960069)
I want to join kappa alpha psi. My current university you only need a 2.0 to go through intake. There were some akas at my school who didn't have a 2.5 and crossed. I figured the 2.5 was a soft minimum

Did they??

**flashingback**

Did they actually come out on campus?

(Wondering if they (universal greekdom, not AKA) is still running that playbook.)

Redemption 07-28-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1959791)
Sorry homie -- grades are the one thing we can't budge on. Good luck to you as you work hard toward better grades.

By the way -- falsifying a transcript will get you expelled from school, your membership in an organization revoked, and depending on the state, might even land you in jail. DO NOT TAKE THE RISK, even if you know somebody who can "fix" a grade for you.

Do you know any thing about delta GEMs or delteens

thebest09 07-28-2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 1960088)
Did they??

**flashingback**

Did they actually come out on campus?

(Wondering if they (universal greekdom, not AKA) is still running that playbook.)

Yeah they came out an everything. I think they were made exceptions. I know one girl personally and she had a 2.46

thebest09 07-28-2010 06:15 PM

I'm really cool with the guys in the chapter. I've heard nationals will take you if have atleast a 2.47. The chapter at my school is small. It's only 3 on the yard

BluPhire 07-28-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1960093)
I'm really cool with the guys in the chapter. I've heard nationals will take you if have atleast a 2.47. The chapter at my school is small. It's only 3 on the yard

I will tell you right now....don't do it.

I will be nice and throw you some good advice.

Get your grades right.

What you heard and reality is not the same. You are on the other side of the Greek world, you see only what we want you to see...and as advice, unless you have actually gotten information from whoever in the Alumni organization that is over intake I would not take a gamble on this.

Believe me.

This is your only warning. This is a gamble most people lose.

rhoyaltempest 07-28-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1960069)
I want to join kappa alpha psi. My current university you only need a 2.0 to go through intake. There were some akas at my school who didn't have a 2.5 and crossed. I figured the 2.5 was a soft minimum


I'm also going into my junior year

Correction. At your current university, a minimum of a 2.0 is required for intake. If an organization's national GPA is higher, they will not lower their standards; however, if the school requires a minimum GPA higher than the organization's, the organization will abide by the school's GPA requirement for the chapter at that school.

ree-Xi 07-28-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1960069)
I want to join kappa alpha psi. My current university you only need a 2.0 to go through intake. There were some akas at my school who didn't have a 2.5 and crossed. I figured the 2.5 was a soft minimum

I'm also going into my junior year

This isn't related to the type of fraternity/sorority you are joining (NPHC, NPC, MC, etc.), but is a general question about balancing your academics with a potentially time-consuming membership. (So I don't think that it's swerving).

You're a junior with a 2.492 average. Do you work in addition to attending school? Do you have a demanding course load? Do you have other time commitments that affect your academic performance?

I'm not asking for "excuses", but what do you think the reasons are why your GPA is lower? Are these circumstances under your control? Outside of your interests in Greek membership, do you have a desire and plan to improve your grades? In other words, what is lacking or happening that is preventing you from getting better grades, and what can you do to improve your grades? What would/can you do to maintain those grades if you were given the opportunity to take on the commitment of membership?

Not to sound like a bad pun, but the GPA line may be much less malleable than a line in the sand. Some in the know have suggested that there may be little to no wiggle room or rounding up. So what can/will you do to earn better grades?

(We often ask women who are re-rushing after unsuccessful recruitments what they have done to improve themselves for the next time around, so this is kind of the same question.)

preciousjeni 07-28-2010 06:54 PM

I've always looked at minimum GPAs as scraping the very bottom of the worst possible barrel. Some folks apparently see it as the beginning of negotiations. If you don't have the GPA maybe it's simply not the right time to pursue membership.

ree-Xi 07-28-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1960116)
I've always looked at minimum GPAs as scraping the very bottom of the worst possible barrel. Some folks apparently see it as the beginning of negotiations. If you don't have the GPA maybe it's simply not the right time to pursue membership.

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thebest09 07-29-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1960113)
This isn't related to the type of fraternity/sorority you are joining (NPHC, NPC, MC, etc.), but is a general question about balancing your academics with a potentially time-consuming membership. (So I don't think that it's swerving).

You're a junior with a 2.492 average. Do you work in addition to attending school? Do you have a demanding course load? Do you have other time commitments that affect your academic performance?

I'm not asking for "excuses", but what do you think the reasons are why your GPA is lower? Are these circumstances under your control? Outside of your interests in Greek membership, do you have a desire and plan to improve your grades? In other words, what is lacking or happening that is preventing you from getting better grades, and what can you do to improve your grades? What would/can you do to maintain those grades if you were given the opportunity to take on the commitment of membership?

Not to sound like a bad pun, but the GPA line may be much less malleable than a line in the sand. Some in the know have suggested that there may be little to no wiggle room or rounding up. So what can/will you do to earn better grades?

(We often ask women who are re-rushing after unsuccessful recruitments what they have done to improve themselves for the next time around, so this is kind of the same question.)

Yeah i do work. I work in the resident halls as the information guide. we basically just get paid to sit there but we get to do homework and stuff while working. This upcoming semester I was only taking 4 classes so it wouldnt be any load. honestly I usually get B's and C's in my classes. Ive never failed a class and Ive gotta 1 D in my 2 years. My grandmother died last august which effected me.

Miriverite 07-29-2010 03:52 PM

"Information desk" isn't considered work... especially if you're saying you can sit there and do homework while you're on the job. And - not to be insensitive - unless you were called to sort out her will or something, having a grandmother die should not drag your GPA all the way down below satisfactory. If you wanna join the game, you gotta do the work. Best of luck.

EDIT: I'm sorry if I came off a little heartless. I understand that the death of a family member can (and should) bring grief for a period of time. However, I am adamantly against using it as an excuse for a low GPA to get exceptions. If you were really focused on joining a fraternity or getting your GPA up, then it is possible. After all, I'm sure your grandmother would have wanted to see you excel in school, so the best way to honour her memory is to pick yourself up and try the best you can. Again, I apologize if I came off really harsh - I definitely have issues with being too blunt, both online and in-person.

DrPhil 07-29-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Miriverite (Post 1960612)
And - not to be insensitive - unless you were called to sort out her will or something, having a grandmother die should not drag your GPA all the way down below satisfactory.

I disagree and you are being insensitive. You don't know how his grandmother's passing impacted him.

BluPhire 07-29-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1960621)
I disagree and you are being insensitive. You don't know how his grandmother's passing impacted him.


I agree with this disagree.

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"Information desk" isn't considered work... especially if you're saying you can sit there and do homework while you're on the job.
Should have stopped right there.

MysticCat 07-29-2010 04:24 PM

Agreeing with the disagreeing. No one should assume they know how a death affects someone else.

DrPhil 07-29-2010 04:24 PM

I can't believe she had the nerve to even go there. What the hell.

tld221 07-29-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1960069)
I want to join kappa alpha psi. My current university you only need a 2.0 to go through intake. There were some akas at my school who didn't have a 2.5 and crossed. I figured the 2.5 was a soft minimum


I'm also going into my junior year

We can only help you if you give us complete details. Which means school youre attending.

and way harsh, Miriverite.

Animate 07-29-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1960636)
i attend Northern Illinois University

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dreamseeker 07-29-2010 04:56 PM

oh tld221. lol.

DrPhil 07-29-2010 04:57 PM

Please leave that youngin alone. Let him delete the school he attends. GC antics should be the least of his worries. :(

<---in a very compassionate mood

thebest09 07-29-2010 05:34 PM

im not an idiot i gave him a fake school...

preciousjeni 07-29-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1960650)
<---in a very compassionate mood

booooo

nongreek19.. 08-01-2010 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thebest09 (Post 1959755)
I am pursuing a divine nine fraternity and the minimum gpa is 2.5 and I have a 2.492 do you think they would be able to make an exception since im only .008 away


siiigghhh they lie it depends on how bad they want you and their pull in the school if they want you bad enough and they got pull they'll get your grades changed for you or you can be a renegade but it depends on what school you go to but if they wanted you you would have been call by now if you have been to an interest meeting ant the line is in the fall. but if your sure which one you want to join go to the intrest metting but you risk them not pullin string and or prepledging you and still not makin it but its a leap of faith thats why its better to get to know them first before going all chapters arent the same thoe and dont let these people fool you if they like you they'll ask you or tell you to come to the metting or make a hint to get in they have to like you above all you can be the most qualified but if you dont have someone on the IN lookin out for you.....the prepledging isnt the same every where at everytime but you do need to know them

PrettyBoy 08-01-2010 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nongreek19.. (Post 1961642)
siiigghhh they lie it depends on how bad they want you and their pull in the school if they want you bad enough and they got pull they'll get your grades changed for you or you can be a renegade but it depends on what school you go to but if they wanted you you would have been call by now if you have been to an interest meeting ant the line is in the fall. but if your sure which one you want to join go to the intrest metting but you risk them not pullin string and or prepledging you and still not makin it but its a leap of faith thats why its better to get to know them first before going all chapters arent the same thoe and dont let these people fool you if they like you they'll ask you or tell you to come to the metting or make a hint to get in they have to like you above all you can be the most qualified but if you dont have someone on the IN lookin out for you.....the prepledging isnt the same every where at everytime but you do need to know them

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nongreek19.. 08-01-2010 05:32 AM

aye bruh lets go for a swim


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