Joining Different Orgs (especially the Divine Nine)
 

What is the reasoning behind the National Panhellenic's decision that once you are in one memeber org...you cannot join another? What is the issue with joining more than one organization...more community service to go around?????

What do you think?

probably because each sorority has its own ritual etc...and whats good about having something secret and mysterious is any other sorority member could join your sorority and learn all your cool stuff. Also, im so loyal to my sorority and sisters, i cant imagine being anything else!

It is because your decision and your commitment is lifelong. Also, once you are initiated into the group, you are to hold those rituals sacred. Joining second group would put the secrets of the first group at risk.

But what if you join and change your mind??????? Hmmmmm....(playing devil's advocate a little here)

You shouldn't join an org unless you feel it in your heart that that's the org you want to be a part of. I'm sure that every sorority's and fraternaty's pledge involves, on some level, devotion for life to the org. to hold it dear to your heart. That pledge should not be made lightly. Changing your mind makes you a fickle sister, and I have a feeling that most houses, even if there was no rule, would not be so quick to pledge a sister who had decided she no longer wanted to be a member of another house. Kinda like sloppy seconds.

IMHO

Once you've been initiated, it would be in poor taste to be initiated into another org -who does your loyalty belong to? And what's to stop you then from sharing secrets from the first org. It doesn't make any sense to allow people to join more than one social GLO.

So its just to keep secrets? I mean the founders of AKA became Deltas....they changed their minds. So would you call them fickled?????

CuriousGreek - It appears from the tone of your posts that you are an advocate of the devil.

To clarify for those who may take this person seriously: None of the founders of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated became members of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated.

To you CuriousGreek, I might say get your facts straight before you post, but I think you already know better. This is my only response to this thread, because I think you are just trying to get some mess started up in here.

First...I am not trying to start anything...just asking a question for clarification purposes.....


Further...in researching....this is what I read. Were they not AKA's?

But that is not the point that I am getting at...that is neither hear nor there. If all teh organizations were all basically founded under the same BASIC principles...why cant you join more than just one?

HOPE I CLARIFIED MYSELF!

If you wish to perform service with more than one organization (in addition to your GLO affiliation), join another service org (non-GLO) such as Junior League, Elks, Kiwanis, Red Cross, etc. If you truly want to join a service oriented Greek org., I believe both Gamma Sigma Sigma and Alpha Phi Omega allow you to be both a member of their org and an NPC, NPHC or NIC group.

It was my understanding that in 1912 some members of AKA defected and founded DST. Although I could be wrong.

BTW, It wasn't the founders that left.


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"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
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[This message has been edited by KnowledgeEternal (edited March 28, 2001).]

Yes, my bad, I left ESA and BSPhi off my list, but those are both service sororities. I don't know if there are any non-collegiate service fraternities taht use Greek letters.

Barbara

I have always been told that once you join a NPHC org, it was against etiquette to join even NPC or NIC....I was told its like going backwards...

I don't understand. If you are already a member of a NPHC fraternity or sorority why would you want to join another organization? If you want to do more community service, you can just do MORE community service in the organization that you are already a member of. Although I am not greek, I think that even considering joining another org shows that you were not commited in the first place.

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"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

I thought we already had a topic that covered the reasons why you can't join another NPHC/NPC/NIC orgainzation after you have been initiated into one. Please do a search and you're questions will be answered. Mr Moderator would you please close this topic?

For public information on the role that AKA played in the founding of DST, please check the official websites of both orgs as well as published history books such as 'In Search of Sisterhood' by Paula Giddings (a Delta) or 'Through the Years' by Marjorie Parker (an AKA).

As far as joining a second NPHC org, please search previous threads. This topic has been addressed ad nauseum.

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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

As Mccoyred stated, you need to reread the books or read the proper books to understand what happened over 88 years ago. The founders of AKA DID NOT become Deltas. And lets face, it there were not many organizations around at the time. Now you have enough choices to make a informed decision and stick with it for life. Are you asking all these questions because you want to join a second organization and they won't let you???

This topic isn't real...it can't be. By the way I've read In Search of Sisterhood and it was deep. Wifey has been through it a bajillion times.

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Many are called, many are chosen, but only a few are PHROZEN!

I am not greek and hope that I don't offend. My bro. and sis. of the BGLO once you have plegded on the college level there is nothing in "my opinion" to receive as far as learned info. I say this because fraternities and sororities are watered down freemasonry. I'm not saying this to upset you, they do their purpose and are extremely important.Though when you leave school you will find an intire networking system much larger than you indiviual frat/soror. these same members have continued to move onward/upward in search of more light not lateral.

Please excuse the type-o's

Curious,
Please don't post miss information about my beloved organization, when you are clearly not a member. First of all you are loud and wrong! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Two quick points:

1) You can't just not join NPC or NIC if you are NPHC....it cuts both ways. It has nothing to do with "going backwards", it's just a rule that ALL Greeks agree on. Think of it as the Greek equivalent of committing bigamy.

2) APO and GSS are NOT in the NIC, NPC or NPHC.


And one riddle:

Q: How is this "join one then another" topic like "The Godfather"?

A: The horse is dead!!

Curious,

I find you very immature and uncouth. Especially when you are trying to pit my Sorority with another NPHC Sorority. Your skewed sense of NPHC Sorority histories suggests your ability to logically analyze situations and do critical thinking skills required to join any sorority from any of the umbrella sorority organizations.

To redirect your thinking, answer this question:

Why did you chose to go to your college that you are currently attending opposed to another institution? All award academic degrees if accredited. Each have similar departments. Most are funded by government grants. And all the professors should have a second or tertiary degrees... So, what is your reason for joining your collegiate level membership?

Maybe its because its to late and I just had some week old pizza but PHA357 what exactly was your point?

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I thought it was just me. PHA357, what IS the point?



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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

Okay...I think that some people are taking this somewhere where it wasnt intended to go. I am not trying to disrespect anyONE organization...IN FACT, I believe in each organizations purpose and goals....THAT WAS WHY I WAS WONDERING WHY THERE IS A RESTRICTION ON COJOINING ORGS....It seems that many have missed the purpose of the FIRST posting and have got all hot and bothered over nothing....TAKE IT EASY...DO SOME FOLKS COME IN HERE JUST TO VENT...ITS NOT THAT CRUCIAL!...

Now, maybe it would be much more functional and maybe some of these BGLOS would actually start helping the community, if instead of being divided, tehy would join into one organization and work together instead...yea yea...I know about the NPHC...but its still divided...everyone knows about the petty rivalries and competitive nature...who's better than who....come on already....

I WAS GOING FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF JOINING TO HELP..........

Okay...I think that some people are taking this somewhere where it wasnt intended to go. I am not trying to disrespect anyONE organization...IN FACT, I believe in each organizations purpose and goals....THAT WAS WHY I WAS WONDERING WHY THERE IS A RESTRICTION ON COJOINING ORGS....It seems that many have missed the purpose of the FIRST posting and have got all hot and bothered over nothing....TAKE IT EASY...DO SOME FOLKS COME IN HERE JUST TO VENT...ITS NOT THAT CRUCIAL!...

Now, maybe it would be much more functional and maybe some of these BGLOS would actually start helping the community, if instead of being divided, tehy would join into one organization and work together instead...yea yea...I know about the NPHC...but its still divided...everyone knows about the petty rivalries and competitive nature...who's better than who....come on already....

I WAS GOING FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF JOINING TO HELP..........

To throw your question back at you...why WOULD anyone need to join more than one of the Divine Nine? What would they gain by being both an AKA and a Delta or an Omega and a Kappa?

As for the petty rivalries of which you spoke, go back and read the thread about my soror GinaLynn's travel nightmare. You see that when it comes to the important things, there is indeed unity in the Divine Nine. We don't always agree, but what family does?

BTW, I ass*u*me you are a member of a NIC/PHC GLO. What would you gain by becoming a member of Delta Zeta and Alpha Phi or TKE and Fiji?

Think!!



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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

Curious, if you're just talking about BGLOs coming together to do community service events together then you have a good point. However, let's keep in mind, THIS ALREADY HAPPENS. Maybe not on every campus and with every organization, but it does happen.

Now, I honestly don't understand how cojoining organizations would lead to more community service. As someone stated earlier, why not do more community service in the ONE organization that you belong to. Most of us (saying most because I don't know all nor have I come in contact with all BGLO members)joined our beloved organizations because it was the ONE organization that was true to our heart and it was the ONE organization we felt stood out above the rest. If one admires more than one BGLO, but can not decide which ONE organization is true to their heart, then that person should stay an admirer until they can do enough soul searching to realize which ONE organization fits them.

I don't know, I just think cojoining organizations is a trick from the devil...ok, maybe not that extreme but it is a BAD IDEA.

Curious, I don't know what prompted you to post this topic and I believe others on this page have given you an appropriate answer, however you are partially right members NOT founders of Alpha Kappa Alpha defected and helped start Delta Sigma Theta. Of this I am 100%, but that one occurence is insignificant to the fact that it is purely inappropriate to join more than one sorority.