Man Kills 2 Year Old Step-Daughter Over Crying During The World Cup
 

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_153944...ce=most_viewed

Oh, oh, oh oh, oh oh my god!

Idiot.

Where's the hating mankind club when you need it?

I wish it were true that people who hurt kids get it worse in jail. I really do. It's a personal failing.

No. No. No.

Tell me this just cannot be true.

I simply cannot wrap my mind around this.

He will burn in hell.

I blame the vuvuzelas. He will plead temporary insanity.

Wow. Just WOW!
I can't help but cry for these poor girls... and all the other unbelievable horror children face every day! I just don't understand how anyone can do this to someone so innocent!

So what does it say about a mother who would let a monster like this around her children?Something like this is usually not an isolated incident. I would not be surprised if the other children have also been physically abused in some way.

It's not usually a good idea to blame the non-abusing parent in these situations. We don't know if it was an isolated incident or not, and we don't know if mom is a victim of abuse herself. It's not as simple as "getting out" of these situations even for someone who is otherwise independent.

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Things like this are just no bueno. I don't think that any sane person could do that to a child.

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I don't even have words.

I taught in the criminal justice system for 20 years and very often, a man who harmed children got it worse in jail, especially if it got around the building. Even though criminals have done bad things, most of them do love their kids.

Exactly. I'm a criminology major and a research assistant... In the criminal justice system, child and sex offenders are at the bottom of the totem pole. You do not want it to get around your prison that you hurt a kid in any way.

Wow, another piece of garbage protected by America's crappy justice system. $$$$$$$

eta: and he'll even get an attorney to represent him in court, even though the evidence is there that he did this to that child. More money wasted on garbage. And I'm sure he'll be able to plead something stupid. Only in America where the criminal is protected.:rolleyes:

I forgot the Bill of Rights only protects SOME people from an unfair justice system, not ALL.:rolleyes:

It did say in the article that the mom wasn't located, right? Eek... what a terrible situation.

Yes, there's a lot of truth in what you say. But I'd also ask, where were these little girls' own fathers? When the fathers stick around, there is no room for a stepfather. Statistically, stepfathers and mothers' boyfriends are far greater dangers to children than biological fathers.
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Yeah who cares about a tiny unimportant thing like innocent before proven guilty by a jury of their peers. And I'm confused, how exactly is he protected?

Yes, well my understanding through a DoC worker is that it rarely actually works like that since so many of those in prison are there on sex offenses and many of them offended against children. It's apparently an old 'myth' and in reality in most prisons - not jails - those are the people running things. :-/

I've heard both things too, it sounds like it might be a general truth, but how true it is is based on the facility being discussed.

I think a lot of it is what we want to believe. Like I mentioned earlier, a family friend was killed in a car accident last week and the commenters on the newspaper's website all put predicted that the guy who hit her would be raped in prison. He was going to the county jail, in solitary confinement, for DUI. :confused:

Well, it makes us feel better in that little revenge corner of our minds to imagine that (usually) he will 'get his' in jail. (And really not that much rape/assault going on in jail vs. prison just due to sheer numbers.)

But you know, wishing rape on someone feels really wrong no matter what. So mostly I hope he feels really shitty about it for the rest of his life. And every time he sees or hears about another kid he gets to relive that shame over and over.

That I can live with.

I see your :rolleyes: and raise you :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.

Remember that discussion a few months ago on due process? Time to go back to it.

Or just move to somewhere else where they don't worry about piddly things like due process, innocent until proven guilty, right to counsel, trial by jury and instead just go ahead and execute people on the spot. How does North Korea sound?

We know he did it and there weren't any extenuating circumstances and he's clearly just evil so why don't we just kill him now!

No innocent people ever get the benefit of our justice system. Ever.

Duh.

Do you have a report to back this up? I'd be interested in reading it.

It seems to me that someone depraved enough to cause significant harm to a child would do it whether or not it was his/her biological child.

Thank you!

Google gave me this

Thank you! A mother who sacrifices her kids for a man and does nothing to protect them is lower than low

I think both of those bastards should fry! I'd even flip the switch for free

I had a feeling you'd show up. Yep. I remember our discussion, and I still have it.:) It's just that I don't think he'll get the punishment that he deserves. That was 2 year old child.

He's been charged with capital homicide, so he's facing the death penalty. He gave what appears to be a very incriminating confession, so unless there's some reason it can't come into evidence, I'd say a conviction is very likely; I'd even guess it's likely without the confession. This is in Texas, a place not at all shy about imposing and carrying out death sentences. Under all the circumstances, I'd be amazed if the prosecutor would agree to any plea deal that involved anything less than life in prison, and even that would surprise me.

So why don't you think he'll get the punishment he deserves?

Man, I love Texas :)

I can't even read the article, it'll make me ill.

Expressing the feeling that he won't get the punishment he deserves is different than deriding the system for providing him a lawyer and posting random dollar signs at the end of your sentence in some twisted way of providing a point.

And, what exactly is the punishment he deserves? Since you know better than the justice system that is apparently unique to the rest of the world in protecting bad guys.

Also I'll see your :rolleyes: at the bolded.

See, that's just it, MC. It's all the plea deals, money, etc that I don't like. Remember our discussion about the money part? If he gets the death penalty, which I'm all for, then why can't they just do away with him right now. Today. Why a death row? I just thought there was going to be some kind of plea deal, that's why I didn't think he was going to get what he deserves.

Don't mess with Texas.:p

I'm sure you've heard some of the cases about death row inmates who have been exonerated because of new developments coming up.

Let's go even more 19th century. It can even be public and involve either a hanging, decapitation, or gun range (I can't believe there's a state that still has that).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Foucault5.jpg

Michel Foucault is laughing at me.

You may remember our discussion but obviously you didn't understand it if you're asking why we can't just despense with a trial and hang him now. Because. It. Would. Be. Unconstitutional. Not to mention uncivilized.

Seriously, I'm sorry but I just don't have much patience with this. I'll be the first to admit that the criminal justice isn't perfect -- in some cases far from it. And I'll gladly listen to informed criticisms and engage in discussions about them. But I have little patience with criticisms -- complete with :rolleyes:s and $s -- that demonstrate appalling ignorance of the some of the basic constitutional principles this country is founded on -- principles that a fifth grader should know.

What she's doing is venting and vents are not engaging.

I think it's gone now, it was just grandfathered in for anyone convicted before the change.

Not to mention that many countries have found that the death penalty itself isn't civilized.

/cosigns MC for the rest of the thread.

Yeah, I have. But I'm just talking about if all the evidence is there. DNA etc.



I understood it, but I didn't agree with it all. The part I don't agree with is how the punishment isn't equal. If you have money (like OJ) you can get away with murder. I wasn't trying to degrade the law, MC. I just don't agree with it all. Some of it, but not all of it, and there's nothing wrong with my frustration towards that. I appreciate you explaining it to me and I wasn't debating with you, because this is what you do for a living, it's just that I don't agree with the way a lot of it is handled. That's all I'm saying. I wasn't trying to offend you. Honestly, I wasn't.