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Rosiegal 06-14-2010 11:37 AM

Legacy Question?
 
Hey everyone. I did a search, but I just couldn't quite find the answer.

If my half-sister is a member of an NPC sorority, does that make me a legacy? To clarify, the daughter of my dad and my step-mom. Does it depend on the organization? I tried checking out a couple different sorority websites and it just said sisters. I didn't know if that was a lack of clarification or just meant that half siblings were not recognized. I asked my half-sister but she wasn't sure. :rolleyes:

Thanks in advance for the answer :)

Drolefille 06-14-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosiegal (Post 1942731)
Hey everyone. I did a search, but I just couldn't quite find the answer.

If my half-sister is a member of an NPC sorority, does that make me a legacy? To clarify, the daughter of my dad and my step-mom. Does it depend on the organization? I tried checking out a couple different sorority websites and it just said sisters. I didn't know if that was a lack of clarification or just meant that half siblings were not recognized. I asked my half-sister but she wasn't sure. :rolleyes:

Thanks in advance for the answer :)

Generally speaking I believe it would count. It does depend on the organization whether they have specifically specified half or step sisters, but I do not know whether any actually exclude either.

For example Sigma Kappa specifically states sisters and step-sisters are legacies, as a "half-sister" is in a sense both of these I would consider my half-sister a legacy if I had one.

*phew*

jennyj87 06-14-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosiegal (Post 1942731)
Hey everyone. I did a search, but I just couldn't quite find the answer.

If my half-sister is a member of an NPC sorority, does that make me a legacy? To clarify, the daughter of my dad and my step-mom. Does it depend on the organization? I tried checking out a couple different sorority websites and it just said sisters. I didn't know if that was a lack of clarification or just meant that half siblings were not recognized. I asked my half-sister but she wasn't sure. :rolleyes:

Thanks in advance for the answer :)

I did a google serach and found http://www.uncg.edu/student.groups/p...onal/faqs.html saying that half sisters were good.

I'd think it was a little ridiculous if a sorority didn't. Then again I think the whole "half sister" things are stupid. Just becasue my sister is my half sister doesn't mean i love her more or less than my full sister. "half sister" just sounds stupid IMHO.

jennyj87 06-14-2010 11:55 AM

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Rosiegal 06-14-2010 03:19 PM

Drolefille - Thanks for your answer :) I can only assume if step sisters count, that half sisters would as well.

JennyJ87 - I should have clarified. I think of my half-sisters as my sisters and of course love them just as much. I of course had to clarify to ask this question though. And the thread you provided is has information for a few sororities. Thanks

Is there anywhere else I can go with this question?

agzg 06-14-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosiegal (Post 1942841)
Drolefille - Thanks for your answer :) I can only assume if step sisters count, that half sisters would as well.

JennyJ87 - I should have clarified. I think of my half-sisters as my sisters and of course love them just as much. I of course had to clarify to ask this question though. And the thread you provided is has information for a few sororities. Thanks

Is there anywhere else I can go with this question?

The Greek Life Office on your campus.

MysticCat 06-14-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosiegal (Post 1942841)
Is there anywhere else I can go with this question?

A knowledgeable person from the sorority in question?

honeychile 06-14-2010 03:34 PM

As you noted, each GLO has its own definition of what a legacy is. You would be a legacy for Alpha Delta Pi.

That noted, legacy status gives you an extra look, but there are no guarantees, especially if you're going to an SEC school.

KSUViolet06 06-14-2010 04:40 PM

The national website of the sorority in question may have that info.

Rosiegal 06-14-2010 04:42 PM

Ok, so these are the organizations that people have confirmed that half-sisters count as legacies:

Alpha Delta Pi
Alpha Omicron Pi
Phi Mu
Sigma Kappa

I'm hesitant to contact the Greek Life office at my school, because in the past when my friends and I have relied on information from there, we are constantly getting conflicting information. Aren't these national policies, though? All my friend sorority members say they aren't sure.

Drolefille 06-14-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosiegal (Post 1942890)
Ok, so these are the organizations that people have confirmed that half-sisters count as legacies:

Alpha Delta Pi
Alpha Omicron Pi
Phi Mu
Sigma Kappa

I'm hesitant to contact the Greek Life office at my school, because in the past when my friends and I have relied on information from there, we are constantly getting conflicting information. Aren't these national policies, though? All my friend sorority members say they aren't sure.

They are national policies but not every sorority member knows where they are or the details of them.

Your options: Look up each chapter's nation website
Ask your friends to actually ask someone
Contact the Greek Life office/check the local chapter websites
Post the full list here and someone who is bored and possibly dodging her thesis might actually look them up for you.

Up to you.

agzg 06-14-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosiegal (Post 1942890)
Ok, so these are the organizations that people have confirmed that half-sisters count as legacies:

Alpha Delta Pi
Alpha Omicron Pi
Phi Mu
Sigma Kappa

I'm hesitant to contact the Greek Life office at my school, because in the past when my friends and I have relied on information from there, we are constantly getting conflicting information. Aren't these national policies, though? All my friend sorority members say they aren't sure.

They are national policies in many cases. Your friends may not know for sure but more than likely the recruitment chair/president knows or can find out. I only say ask your GL office because sometimes it's better to have a face-to-face talk about it, and they may know offhand anyway.

I do believe that in the eyes of Alpha Gamma Delta a half-sister is a sister and therefore you would have legacy status. I'll wait for AGDee to step in and confirm that for me, though, as "half-sister" is not an option on our Legacy Introduction Form, and I've never filled on out/dealth with legacy status as I have no female relatives (aside from my mother).

AOII Angel 06-14-2010 04:57 PM

Why don't you get your half-sister to call her inter/ national headquarters and confirm that you will be considered a legacy for her organization? She will likely need to fill out a legacy confirmation form to prove your status anyway, so you need to get her involved at some point.

Titchou 06-14-2010 04:59 PM

Add Delta Gamma to the list.

Rosiegal 06-14-2010 05:09 PM

Alpha Delta Pi
Alpha Omicron Pi
Alpha Phi
Alpha Xi Delta
Delta Gamma
Kappa Alpha Theta
Kappa Delta
Phi Mu
Phi Sigma Sigma
Sigma Kappa

If anyone else knows that their organization counts it, please quote me and add it to the list!

Added some sororities to the list after looking at the national websites.

Rosiegal 06-14-2010 05:12 PM

I just thought that the sorority members on this site might just know. That's all

aephi alum 06-14-2010 05:51 PM

I doubt anyone is going to write on their recruitment registration form, "My sister is an XYZ, but she's really only my half-sister, is that ok?" If you were raised together as sisters, you're sisters. The whole legacy thing is a courtesy to the sister, and I know I'd be miffed if I had a half-sister who was as close to me as a full sister and she were not treated as a legacy just because we had different mothers.

Titchou 06-15-2010 07:58 AM

Since you've already been thru recruitment last fall, did you not care about this at the time? And since you really only need the info for the groups on your campus, why not just ask specifically for them?

MysticCat 06-15-2010 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 1943101)
And since you really only need the info for the groups on your campus, why not just ask specifically for them?

She really just needs the info for one group -- the group of which her half-sister is a member. Regardless of the policies of other groups, she wouldn't be a legacy to any of them.

Meanwhile, I have a hard time imagining that, legacy-wise, any GLO makes a distinction between full siblings and half-siblings.

Titchou 06-15-2010 09:25 AM

I meant that so that she wouldn't "out" her sister's group....

Barbie's_Rush 06-15-2010 09:51 AM

Relying on strangers on the intarwebz to confirm sorority specific policies is dumb. Publishing some sort of cumulative list here based on your "findings" is even dumber. Just ask your half sister to confirm with her organization and complete the appropriate form if that is their legacy policy. Simple. Fast. Effective.

MysticCat 06-15-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 1943120)
I meant that so that she wouldn't "out" her sister's group....

But asking about those specific orgs has a much higher risk of "outing" her campus, which has a higher risk of coming back to haunt her.

Titchou 06-15-2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1943136)
But asking about those specific orgs has a much higher risk of "outing" her campus, which has a higher risk of coming back to haunt her.

She's PNM...she doesnt get it...so she's doing it this way not realizing that at some point someone will figure it out here or on her campus...

DrPhil 06-15-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 1943144)
She's PNM...she doesnt get it...so she's doing it this way not realizing that at some point someone will figure it out here or on her campus...

This is where I lane swerve and say:

Greekchat is really not a smart place for most PNMs/aspirants to do more than silently read. This is the fault of both the PNMs and the NIC/NPC/NPHC who continue to entertain certain topics and questions.

Drolefille 06-15-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 1943144)
She's PNM...she doesnt get it...so she's doing it this way not realizing that at some point someone will figure it out here or on her campus...

Except MC's point is that doing it this way is actually lessening her chances of getting ID'd on any campus.

You know besides just having sis fill out the form. Because if you're not a legacy then you're not and they'll ignore the form, and if you are they'll take it,

Rosiegal 06-15-2010 01:40 PM

Whoa you guys, I'm really sorry I didn't mean to cause any drama. Let me explain a few things.

I didn't want to say the sororities on my campus specifically, because of course that would identify my campus. Additionally, I was curious about all the sororities policies. :rolleyes:

The legacy issue was not an issue until now.

I'm sorry if you guys thought I was being dumb. That definitely wasn't my intention. I didn't think this was an odd question and to be honest, I see it being asked in the future. I don't think it's odd to be able to create a list.

CopterDad 06-15-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1943149)
This is where I lane swerve and say:

Greekchat is really not a smart place for most PNMs/aspirants to do more than silently read. This is the fault of both the PNMs and the NIC/NPC/NPHC who continue to entertain certain topics and questions.

The recruitment forums would become stale without contemporaneous postings from PNMs/aspirants and actives.

Barbie's_Rush 06-15-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CopterDad (Post 1943217)
The recruitment forums would become stale without contemporaneous postings from PNMs/aspirants and actives.

You're becoming extremely tiresome.

CopterDad 06-15-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1943232)
You're becoming extremely tiresome.

Too bad it's so early in the day or I might have been helpful.:rolleyes:

gee_ess 06-15-2010 03:07 PM

I think you should have your half-sister contact her organization for clarification. That would be completely acceptable for her to do and will ultimately answer your question correctly.

Barbie's_Rush 06-15-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CopterDad (Post 1943238)
Too bad it's so early in the day or I might have been helpful.:rolleyes:

Since you aren't a sorority woman and your pretty perfect princess hasn't even gone through recruitment at this point, there's nothing helpful you can add here.

KSUViolet06 06-15-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1943349)
Since you aren't a sorority woman and your pretty perfect princess hasn't even gone through recruitment at this point, there's nothing helpful you can add here.

Oh snap.

CopterDad 06-16-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1943349)
Since you aren't a sorority woman and your pretty perfect princess hasn't even gone through recruitment at this point, there's nothing helpful you can add here.

I have a son who is pretty heavily involved in Greek Life at a state flagship university east of the Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon line. Does that count? :)

AZTheta 06-16-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1943232)
You're becoming extremely tiresome.

time to update my signature; you posted something else I liked a lot but this is short & sweet & expresses my current sentiments about numerous situations.
May I?

agzg 06-16-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CopterDad (Post 1943566)
I have a son who is pretty heavily involved in Greek Life at a state flagship university east of the Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon line. Does that count? :)

No, as fraternity legacy policies are not the same as sorority legacy policies.

Barbie's_Rush 06-16-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CopterDad (Post 1943566)
I have a son who is pretty heavily involved in Greek Life at a state flagship university east of the Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon line. Does that count? :)

Not unless your son is a member of an NPC sorority and familiar with his organization's legacy policies. Seriously, your involvement in your daughter's upcoming recruitment and continuing to hang out here offering advice on topics you know nothing about is creepy. It won't be too hard for the girls at Auburn to figure out who overly involved creepy dad's daughter is. You really need to chill for your daughter's sake because there are plenty of lurkers here who may make decisions based on your behavior.

Barbie's_Rush 06-16-2010 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 1943572)
time to update my signature; you posted something else I liked a lot but this is short & sweet & expresses my current sentiments about numerous situations.
May I?

Be my guest.

CopterDad 06-16-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1943582)
Not unless your son is a member of an NPC sorority and familiar with his organization's legacy policies. Seriously, your involvement in your daughter's upcoming recruitment and continuing to hang out here offering advice on topics you know nothing about is creepy. It won't be too hard for the girls at Auburn to figure out who overly involved creepy dad's daughter is. You really need to chill for your daughter's sake because there are plenty of lurkers here who may make decisions based on your behavior.

Seriously, cool down. It's a bulletin board. And my post wasn't advice but a comment on general posting. But, since you seem serious enough to torpedo my daughter, I'll swerve out of your way.

Rosiegal 06-16-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gee_ess (Post 1943254)
I think you should have your half-sister contact her organization for clarification. That would be completely acceptable for her to do and will ultimately answer your question correctly.

I will. Thanks

DrPhil 06-16-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CopterDad (Post 1943592)
Seriously, cool down. It's a bulletin board. And my post wasn't advice but a comment on general posting. But, since you seem serious enough to torpedo my daughter, I'll swerve out of your way.

She wasn't saying that SHE would torpedo your daughter. She's just being vocal about what some people may be thinking because you're...still here.

I haven't been keeping up with CopterDad, but are you in a fraternity? Please say that you're not only "Greek" through your kids. ;)


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