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Benzgirl 06-02-2010 03:44 PM

Natalee Holloway Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot Sought in Peru Murder
 
This guy is a sociopath.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=10807407

Joran van der Sloot, the 22-year-old Dutch playboy twice arrested in the mysterious disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, has been named the prime suspect in the death of a young Peruvian woman found dead in a Lima hotel today, five days after she disappeared.

Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, 21, disappeared Friday and was found dead this morning at the Miraflores Hotel Tac in Lima, Peru. Flores was last seen with van der Sloot, the Dutch national who was twice arrested and released in connection with the disappearance of Holloway , an 18-year-old American student who went missing in Aruba five years ago this week.

ForeverRoses 06-02-2010 03:46 PM

wow. just wow.

srmom 06-02-2010 03:52 PM

I just read that too, what a terrible shame! If only he'd been nailed for the Natalie Holloway murder, this young woman would be alive.

I know his dad died last year, but I'm curious to see his mother's reaction since she so vehemently defended him when the Holloway family was searching for answers, EVEN after he admitted he killed her on video with that undercover reporter years later.

Tragic!

AGDee 06-02-2010 03:54 PM

According to the yahoo article:

The killing occurred exactly five years after the May 30, 2005, disappearance in Aruba of Holloway.


That creeps me out more than anything... 5 years to the day?

Benzgirl 06-02-2010 06:51 PM

Wasn't he trying to traffic women from Thailand?

AznSAE 06-02-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1938318)
I just read that too, what a terrible shame! If only he'd been nailed for the Natalie Holloway murder, this young woman would be alive.

I know his dad died last year, but I'm curious to see his mother's reaction since she so vehemently defended him when the Holloway family was searching for answers, EVEN after he admitted he killed her on video with that undercover reporter years later.

Tragic!

his dad died? how? i didn't know that. i saw natalie's mom on the today show earlier this week talking about the anniversary.

ThetaPrincess24 06-03-2010 02:13 PM

It appears as though he has been caught!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06...rder-peruvian/

Unfortunately this is a one line story. I posted it only to show my source.

ThetaPrincess24 06-03-2010 07:40 PM

And the news on this jerk keeps coming in...
 
Apparently he has tried to extort money for the location of the Holloway body.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/03...odys-location/

Benzgirl 06-03-2010 08:07 PM

Can I ask a silly question, bu this is something that always bugged me? What were a bunch of kids doing in Aruba for a senior class trip?

Senusret I 06-03-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1939013)
Can I ask a silly question, bu this is something that always bugged me? What were a bunch of kids doing in Aruba for a senior class trip?

Is the question about Aruba in particular or that they went out of the country for the trip?

Ghostwriter 06-03-2010 08:18 PM

One more dead body and he might just qualify as a serial killer.

PiKA2001 06-03-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1939020)
One more dead body and he might just qualify as a serial killer.

A jet setting serial killer, what does this guy do for a living?

KSUViolet06 06-03-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1939013)
Can I ask a silly question, bu this is something that always bugged me? What were a bunch of kids doing in Aruba for a senior class trip?

I grew up in CA and some of my friend's schools went on senior trips to Tijuana, Cabo, Cancun (those aren't super far for So Cal peeps but out of the country). They weren't always official school-sanctioned senior trips. More like "everybody is going so we'll call it senior trip."

honeychile 06-03-2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1938320)
According to the yahoo article:

The killing occurred exactly five years after the May 30, 2005, disappearance in Aruba of Holloway.


That creeps me out more than anything... 5 years to the day?

I call it the Lord, some may call it karma, but there's something to that anniversary. It's not just bad dumb luck!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1939003)
Apparently he has tried to extort money for the location of the Holloway body.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/03...odys-location/

Surely that could be used against him in time.

Forgive me for my thoughts, but I hope he's nailed this time. I hope he never gets out of a deep, dark prison cell - but if he is, I hope he has to have WOMAN KILLER tatooed on his face!

PM_Mama00 06-03-2010 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1939013)
Can I ask a silly question, bu this is something that always bugged me? What were a bunch of kids doing in Aruba for a senior class trip?

I went to Jamaica with 8 other girls for my senior spring break. Another group went to Cancun. It's very common for seniors to go out of the country so they can drink. I look back on mine and think "wow that was stupid". Her mistake was getting in a car with a local.

Ghostwriter 06-04-2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1939071)
Forgive me for my thoughts, but I hope he's nailed this time. I hope he never gets out of a deep, dark prison cell - but if he is, I hope he has to have WOMAN KILLER tatooed on his face!

Since the death penalty is probably out of the question in Peru (don't know their laws but suspect there is not a death penalty), I hope he becomes someone's lifetime Peruvian bitch.

Munchkin03 06-04-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1939013)
Can I ask a silly question, bu this is something that always bugged me? What were a bunch of kids doing in Aruba for a senior class trip?

It was a school tradition, apparently. They had been doing it for years. The school is in a pretty affluent suburb of Birmingham so it doesn't really surprise me.

Kevlar281 06-04-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1939185)
Since the death penalty is probably out of the question in Peru (don't know their laws but suspect there is not a death penalty), I hope he becomes someone's lifetime Peruvian bitch.

Peru does have the death penalty but it's very unlikely that he will receive a death sentence. Peruvian prison is no joke; it will pretty much be a death sentence for him. A long drawn out painful existence that will reach its inevitable conclusion. His only hope is intervention from the Netherlands Embassy to insure his protection and even that will be a reach considering he is a Westerner who will most likely be convicted of murdering a Peruvian woman.

AnchorAlum 06-05-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1939251)
Peru does have the death penalty but it's very unlikely that he will receive a death sentence. Peruvian prison is no joke; it will pretty much be a death sentence for him. A long drawn out painful existence that will reach its inevitable conclusion. His only hope is intervention from the Netherlands Embassy to insure his protection and even that will be a reach considering he is a Westerner who will most likely be convicted of murdering a Peruvian woman.


If the Netherlands is smart they'll slip out the back door on this one. He's an embarassment and they shouldn't waste an ounce of diplomatic capital on this guy.

WCsweet<3 06-08-2010 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1938320)
According to the yahoo article:

The killing occurred exactly five years after the May 30, 2005, disappearance in Aruba of Holloway.


That creeps me out more than anything... 5 years to the day?


As my mother said "I wonder if he has killed someone every year on this date and we just don't know/hasn't been noticed."

ForeverRoses 06-08-2010 08:39 AM

Did I hear correctly on GMA that he confessed? and he reason was that Stephany looked at his laptop? Really?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Media/jora...ry?id=10853209

honeychile 06-08-2010 08:53 AM

I heard that late last night, but my computer was acting up. I still can't get over him offering to tell the Hollaway family what happened to Natalee and where her body was for money.

WVU alpha phi 06-08-2010 09:27 AM

Yes GMA reported this morning that he confessed, and the reason he killed her was because he caught her looking up info on him on his laptop. I'm glad this girl's father is a prominent person in Peru, it gives me hope Joran will be given the harshest punishment out there.

Alumiyum 06-08-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1939222)
It was a school tradition, apparently. They had been doing it for years. The school is in a pretty affluent suburb of Birmingham so it doesn't really surprise me.

It is NOT connected to the school...groups of students from graduating classes at MBHS went to places like Jamaica and though this trip had the most attendees so far, they were all set up in basically the same manner, but none of them ever had any affiliation with the school.

I'm so glad they've finally caught him, but it is so unfortunate that he was able to murder another girl. If Natalee's investigation had been done correctly, he wouldn't have killed this girl in Peru.

Alumiyum 06-12-2010 11:35 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl..._murder_o.html

Drolefille 06-12-2010 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1940647)
It is NOT connected to the school...groups of students from graduating classes at MBHS went to places like Jamaica and though this trip had the most attendees so far, they were all set up in basically the same manner, but none of them ever had any affiliation with the school.

It can be a school tradition without being officially sanctioned by the school. This isn't something that the school would have wanted to take liability for anyway, it's a tradition among the students.

(Why do I feel like I'm having this conversation twice)

Alumiyum 06-12-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1942160)
It can be a school tradition without being officially sanctioned by the school. This isn't something that the school would have wanted to take liability for anyway, it's a tradition among the students.

(Why do I feel like I'm having this conversation twice)

Well I disagree with the way it's worded, but it's been a plague on the school since day one. People still claim it is a school tradition when it's not...community tradition would be more accurate. The school caught a lot of flack for a long time for something it actually had nothing to do with. I can't remember how many years grads had been going to Jamaica but I think the class above us was the first to go to Aruba.

(MBHS will not even let "class" trips to foreign countries by Spanish and French classes arrange the trips through them...no idea if that's par for the course for public school systems but I know they've always been particularly careful of distancing themselves from any trips legally. Except athletic events I guess?)

Drolefille 06-12-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1942166)
Well I disagree with the way it's worded, but it's been a plague on the school since day one. People still claim it is a school tradition when it's not...community tradition would be more accurate. The school caught a lot of flack for a long time for something it actually had nothing to do with. I can't remember how many years grads had been going to Jamaica but I think the class above us was the first to go to Aruba.

(MBHS will not even let "class" trips to foreign countries by Spanish and French classes arrange the trips through them...no idea if that's par for the course for public school systems but I know they've always been particularly careful of distancing themselves from any trips legally. Except athletic events I guess?)

If it's students from the school going and not a group of grads from all over then I think it makes sense to call it a school tradition while acknowledging it's not an official trip.

I went to private school and we took trips that were sanctioned and through tour companies so, I don't know how it works elsewhere.

Alumiyum 06-12-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1942206)
If it's students from the school going and not a group of grads from all over then I think it makes sense to call it a school tradition while acknowledging it's not an official trip.

I went to private school and we took trips that were sanctioned and through tour companies so, I don't know how it works elsewhere.

I get where you're coming from...I should be more clear in that I'm not arguing the point with you actually because you're right, that does make sense...I'm just use to being defensive on that point because so many people put the entire thing on the school.

Any trips we took were through tour companies and the teachers had to book them independently so that the school wasn't technically affiliated in any legal way (I'm assuming that was the point)...except for athletic events I'm guessing, since that's through the school by default. Anyway it was something that parents booked and then advertised through word of mouth. It's ironic it was the biggest trip yet because around half our grade went.

Honeykiss1974 06-14-2010 12:43 AM

I always knew that his dad helped him cover up Natalie's death. He probably would have taken care of this one had he been alive. I hope he gets what he deserves..

And on a shallow note - this dude IS NOT cute! In fact, he looks psycho! If he approached me I would have ran in the other direction simply based on the "creepy" factor alone. Maybe its the accent....

Alumiyum 06-14-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974 (Post 1942614)
I always knew that his dad helped him cover up Natalie's death. He probably would have taken care of this one had he been alive. I hope he gets what he deserves..

And on a shallow note - this dude IS NOT cute! In fact, he looks psycho! If he approached me I would have ran in the other direction simply based on the "creepy" factor alone. Maybe its the accent....

Back then, before anyone knew he's completely bat-shit-crazy, he was just another asshole trying to pick up tourist girls on resorts, but he LOOKED completely normal. He told Natalee's friends he was a 19 year old exchange student from Holland (he was 17 and his family had lived on Aruba for a long time), and apparently he seemed perfectly friendly.

honeychile 06-14-2010 09:41 AM

Am I the only one who thinks he looks like a neo-nazi/skinhead?

DaffyKD 06-14-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1939013)
Can I ask a silly question, bu this is something that always bugged me? What were a bunch of kids doing in Aruba for a senior class trip?

I did not think Natalee was a senior at the time of her disappearance.

Our local high school (a public school) offered a marine ecology class for seniors. For 32 years,their final included going down to Mexico about 200 miles. They camped out on the beach and studied the marine life there. The kids were gone for almost a week with LOTS of supervision from a combination of teachers and some parents. This was school sanctioned. Last year, the students did not get to go because of the violence in Mexico. The class was in an area with VERY little population, the kids could not leave.

There are programs which are not only a tradition in the schools, but are sanctioned such as this was. No idea if the class this year was able to go.

DaffyKD

Alumiyum 06-14-2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaffyKD (Post 1942696)
I did not think Natalee was a senior at the time of her disappearance.

Our local high school (a public school) offered a marine ecology class for seniors. For 32 years,their final included going down to Mexico about 200 miles. They camped out on the beach and studied the marine life there. The kids were gone for almost a week with LOTS of supervision from a combination of teachers and some parents. This was school sanctioned. Last year, the students did not get to go because of the violence in Mexico. The class was in an area with VERY little population, the kids could not leave.

There are programs which are not only a tradition in the schools, but are sanctioned such as this was. No idea if the class this year was able to go.

DaffyKD

She graduated high school 6 days prior. We graduated on the 24th of May and she disappeared on the 30th. So technically...no, she wasn't a senior, she was a graduate.

This wasn't a sanctioned trip and was not supposed to be educational. It was blatantly a just-for-fun trip. A lot of people that I know went got the trip as a graduation present.

Honeykiss1974 06-14-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1942675)
Back then, before anyone knew he's completely bat-shit-crazy, he was just another asshole trying to pick up tourist girls on resorts, but he LOOKED completely normal. He told Natalee's friends he was a 19 year old exchange student from Holland (he was 17 and his family had lived on Aruba for a long time), and apparently he seemed perfectly friendly.

Honestly, I didn't think he was cute back then either. I think its his eyebrows that have always given me the willies.

Alumiyum 06-14-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974 (Post 1942833)
Honestly, I didn't think he was cute back then either. I think its his eyebrows that have always given me the willies.

He wouldn't have been my type either, but he seemed harmless enough, I guess, in the casino.

KSUViolet06 06-14-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974 (Post 1942833)
Honestly, I didn't think he was cute back then either. I think its his eyebrows that have always given me the willies.

After a few drinks (esp. at 18) many guys who wouldn't be your type when sober are totally up your alley. He also probably didn't register a 10 on the creepo meter after a few drinks either.

ForeverRoses 06-14-2010 03:38 PM

QUOTE=honeychile;1942683]Am I the only one who thinks he looks like a neo-nazi/skinhead?[/QUOTE]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9MrCLXq5ub...-corn_hell.png

I actually thought this picture looked allot like him (I hope this link worked, if not- the picture is from Dreamseeker's post on pg 7 of "Real Life Signs That you're Spending Too Much Time on GC")

Drolefille 06-14-2010 03:48 PM

Here's a version w/o the words, you know, for your future man in unicorn chaps usage.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...iulwo1_400.jpg

Alumiyum 06-15-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1942857)
QUOTE=honeychile;1942683]Am I the only one who thinks he looks like a neo-nazi/skinhead?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9MrCLXq5ub...-corn_hell.png

I actually thought this picture looked allot like him (I hope this link worked, if not- the picture is from Dreamseeker's post on pg 7 of "Real Life Signs That you're Spending Too Much Time on GC")[/QUOTE]

Weirdly...it totally does.


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