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Senusret I 06-01-2010 12:55 PM

Al and Tipper Gore Break Up After 40 Years of Marriage!!!!
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ears-marriage/

Munchkin03 06-01-2010 01:05 PM

WHAT THE SHIT?!!!!!!

ETA: In what world does the Clintons' marriage outlive this one?

ThetaPrincess24 06-01-2010 01:08 PM

They always struck me as a happily married couple too! I cant stand Al, but she always seemed alright to me. I'm sorry they are calling it quits.

knight_shadow 06-01-2010 01:17 PM

Wow. 40 years. I had to check Wikipedia for their ages, because I had no idea they were in their 60s.

And ditto on Munchkin03's ETA.

ThetaPrincess24 06-01-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1937728)
WHAT THE SHIT?!!!!!!

ETA: In what world does the Clintons' marriage outlive this one?


It is a matter of priorities I guess!

MysticCat 06-01-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1937728)
ETA: In what world does the Clintons' marriage outlive this one?

I heard an interview with Mark Halperin, one of the authors of Game Change. He was asked about the book's descriptions of the relationships of the Clintons, the McCains, the Edwards and the Giuliannis. He said you knew there was something wrong when the Clintons had the least dysfunctional marriage of the group.

After 40 years, the Gores just grew apart and decided splitting was better than growing back together? Consign ThetaPrincess on priorities. And I know they said there's been no affair, but I wonder . . . .

Munchkin03 06-01-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1937742)
I heard an interview with Mark Halperin, one of the authors of Game Change. He was asked about the book's descriptions of the relationships of the Clintons, the McCains, the Edwardses, and the Giulianis. He said you knew there was something wrong when the Clintons had the least dysfunctional marriage of the group.

After 40 years, the Gores just grew apart and decided splitting was better than growing back together? Consign ThetaPrincess on priorities. And I know they said there's been no affair, but I wonder . . . .

It was kind of a rhetorical question. I've always suspected that the Clintons' marriage was based more on ambition--both of them were very determined about what they wanted, and they fit in with each other's life goals and were determined do whatever it took to get the other--and themselves--where they wanted to be. Not that this is a recipe for a bad marriage.

Of those four marriages, it would come to pass that the Clintons were the least dysfunctional. It's well-known in some circles that the McCain marriage is problematic; add to that that the Giuliani and Edwards marriages are kaput now...

honeychile 06-01-2010 02:05 PM

Munchkin, I just choken on an Asian salad!
 
Tipper probably found out that Al won the Nobel Piece Prize.

Seriously, didn't they just buy a multi-million dollar house? In a 50-50 state, no less? What couple who has been drifting apart does that, unless they're doing it for the "other" spouse?

MUSK81 06-01-2010 02:19 PM

I think it's sad. If you've managed to stay together for 40 years, why bother to split up ... what Munchkin said about the Clintons. Their marriage works because they are both about power and ambition, and she's willing to put up with his running around as long as she gets what she wants otherwise.

ThetaPrincess24 06-01-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1937750)
It was kind of a rhetorical question. I've always suspected that the Clintons' marriage was based more on ambition--both of them were very determined about what they wanted, and they fit in with each other's life goals and were determined do whatever it took to get the other--and themselves--where they wanted to be. Not that this is a recipe for a bad marriage.

This is what I had in mind when I made the statement about priorities. :)

DaemonSeid 06-01-2010 02:45 PM

No Lewinski, no spunk covered dress, no dirty knees, no Oval office.

No trips to South America on taxpayers' dimes

No ill gotten men's rooms in airports

No $1000's of dollars spent on one hooker.

Not even coming out of the closet.

Just remember, it could be worse.

Munchkin03 06-01-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1937755)
Tipper probably found out that Al won the Nobel Piece Prize.

Seriously, didn't they just buy a multi-million dollar house? In a 50-50 state, no less? What couple who has been drifting apart does that, unless they're doing it for the "other" spouse?

I heard that she found out that he didn't really invent the Internet and was devastated.

Maybe they thought the house could "save" the marriage? :(

I kid, but I actually really like Al. Tipper I'm lukewarm about.

ForeverRoses 06-01-2010 03:23 PM

Maybe Tipper didn't like the music Al was listening to?

Ghostwriter 06-01-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1937808)
Maybe Tipper didn't like the music Al was listening to?

Ha! :D

VandalSquirrel 06-01-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1937808)
Maybe Tipper didn't like the music Al was listening to?

He wants to listen to 2Live Crew and misses album artwork without a parental warning, and she wants to drive something other than a Prius and not be married to a robot.

BabyPiNK_FL 06-01-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MUSK81 (Post 1937756)
I think it's sad. If you've managed to stay together for 40 years, why bother to split up ... what Munchkin said about the Clintons. Their marriage works because they are both about power and ambition, and she's willing to put up with his running around as long as she gets what she wants otherwise.

I kinda feel the same about it. If we've been doing this for 40 years how does one even go about starting over again? You're definitely not a "hot piece of a**" anymore. What does one do?! It'd take some really dirty goings-on (ala infidelity, abuse) for me to throw in the towel at that point. Even from what I've observed most couples just sleep separately or even live separately but don't get divorced. So if it's really not any of those things then is one of them (or both) really just that annoying?

Drolefille 06-01-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1937866)
I kinda feel the same about it. If we've been doing this for 40 years how does one even go about starting over again? You're definitely not a "hot piece of a**" anymore. What does one do?! It'd take some really dirty goings-on (ala infidelity, abuse) for me to throw in the towel at that point. Even from what I've observed most couples just sleep separately or even live separately but don't get divorced. So if it's really not any of those things then is one of them (or both) really just that annoying?

But I think many of those couples that live/sleep apart and don't divorce only don't divorce because of the stigma against it. Why stay legally and financially entangled with someone you don't love (or love like that) any more? Particularly as a 'famous' couple, they're under far more scrutiny than others to be perfect. Divorcing can take that pressure off. I'd rather people do what they want and not feel stuck/trapped because divorcing just isn't done.

And I don't think you have to 'start over' or be young and attractive to want a divorce outside of infidelity or abuse.

Not that there couldn't be other reasons, mind you, but none we know about.

AGDee 06-01-2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1937866)
I kinda feel the same about it. If we've been doing this for 40 years how does one even go about starting over again? You're definitely not a "hot piece of a**" anymore. What does one do?! It'd take some really dirty goings-on (ala infidelity, abuse) for me to throw in the towel at that point. Even from what I've observed most couples just sleep separately or even live separately but don't get divorced. So if it's really not any of those things then is one of them (or both) really just that annoying?

1) You don't necessarily have to start over again. You may just decide that you don't want to be married at all anymore.
2) The definition of a "hot piece of a**" changes as you get older. There are attractive older people, to other older people. You may not be a hot piece to a 20 or 30 year old, but to another 60+, you could be.
3) If you look at Erikson's stages of psychosocial development, you have two phases to consider (this is long, pasted from Wikipedia):
Care: Generativity vs. Stagnation (Middle Adulthood, 35 to 65 years)

* Psychosocial Crisis: Generativity vs. Stagnation
* Main Question: "Will I produce something of real value?"
* Virtue: Care
* Related Elements in Society: parenting, educating, or other productive social involvement

Generativity is the concern of establishing and guiding the next generation. Socially-valued work and disciplines are expressions of generativity. Simply having or wanting children does not in and of itself achieve generativity.

During middle age the primary developmental task is one of contributing to society and helping to guide future generations. When a person makes a contribution during this period, perhaps by raising a family or working toward the betterment of society, a sense of generativity- a sense of productivity and accomplishment- results. In contrast, a person who is self-centered and unable or unwilling to help society move forward develops a feeling of stagnation- a dissatisfaction with the relative lack of productivity.
[edit] Central tasks of Middle Adulthood

* Express love through more than sexual contacts.
* Maintain healthy life patterns.
* Develop a sense of unity with mate.
* Help growing and grown children to be responsible adults.
* Relinquish central role in lives of grown children.
* Accept children's mates and friends.
* Create a comfortable home.
* Be proud of accomplishments of self and mate/spouse.
* Reverse roles with aging parents.
* Achieve mature, civic and social responsibility.
* Adjust to physical changes of middle age.
* Use leisure time creatively.
* Love for others

Wisdom: Ego Integrity vs. Despair (Seniors, 65 years onwards)

* Psychosocial Crisis: Ego Integrity vs. Despair
* Main Question: "Have I lived a full life?"
* Virtue: Wisdom

As we grow older and become senior citizens we tend to slow down our productivity and explore life as a retired person. It is during this time that we contemplate our accomplishments and are able to develop integrity if we see ourselves as leading a successful life. If we see our life as unproductive, or feel that we did not accomplish our life goals, we become dissatisfied with life and develop despair, often leading to depression and hopelessness.

The final developmental task is retrospection: people look back on their lives and accomplishments. They develop feelings of contentment and integrity if they believe that they have led a happy, productive life. They may instead develop a sense of despair if they look back on a life of disappointments and unachieved goals


I can see it being possible that, as you go through these phases, you realize that you don't have a ton of time left and you really aren't happy with your mate. Given that, you could decide to make drastic changes so that you can end your life on a more happy note for you personally.

I have a sorority chapter sister who was staying married to a real douchebag (to borrow a phrase from Xanthus). She planned to leave him and live her life the way she wanted to when the kids were grown. She died suddenly at age 42, with three kids in high school. She died married to that douchebag. I will always be sad for her that she never escaped until she died.

NinjaPoodle 06-02-2010 01:12 AM

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The Gores told friends they "grew apart" after four decades of marriage and there was no affair involved, according to two longtime close associates and family friends.
Sadly, it happens. Best wishes to them both.

Ghostwriter 06-03-2010 08:13 PM

Bush's Fault!!!!:confused:

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/06/...d-tipper-gore/

Drolefille 06-03-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1939017)

Tabloids are tabloids. Blogs reporting on tabloids are... well you get the picture.

honeychile 06-03-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1939017)

You know, with everything from Hurricane Katrina to the Gore divorce being blamed on GWB, I had no idea he had so much power!

Ghostwriter 06-04-2010 11:33 AM

^^^Power crackles from his jeans. No that was Clinton!

PiKA2001 06-04-2010 08:31 PM

I still think it was because she was tired of only being able to flush the toilet once a week.

AnchorAlumna 06-05-2010 10:31 PM

I've been married almost that long, and can tell you that you get to a point where you simply will not put up with his/her crap another day!!!

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1939437)
I still think it was because she was tired of only being able to flush the toilet once a week.

LOL.....good one! Heck yeah, that might have been the final straw!

honeychile 06-07-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1939437)
I still think it was because she was tired of only being able to flush the toilet once a week.

I thought it was "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down."??

I think she played Black Sabbath backwards and heard, "Al is Satan, kill him, kill him."


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