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If you could determine your pledge class size...
What would you want it to be? I know many chapters are very small and intimate and then there are the huge pledge classes common in the SEC. I have 82 in mine and I'm proud to say I know every single girl but sometimes I wish my school would expand and it would come down more around 40-50. What do you guys think? Bigger? Smaller? Or the same?
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There weren't 82 people in a whole chapter (any of the chapters) at my school. That is not the sort of sorority experience I would ever want. I had 5 in mine, but 10-11 would have been OK. Any larger than that and cliques and factions seem to form.
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Same boat as 33girl here.
I'm happy with the 18 I was with although the whole class did not remain. 15-18 is ideal to me. Big enough to get a few different characters and definitely small enough to become close. |
11 was just right for my APO experience. I would have been comfortable with up to 20.
For Alpha..... no comment. |
I had almost 40 in mine...and that was fine. I sort of like larger ones so there are more folks to do the work...more talent to spread things around to...
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I've been in both small and large pledge classes. For APO I had over 60 pledge brothers, while in FIJI I had less than 10. Even though I knew everyone in my APO pledge class, I definitely felt like I was closer to my FIJI pledge class because we were smaller.
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I seriously would KILL to be in a chapter that had 80-100+ NMs in each class. I think it would be really great to meet that many girls and have more options of people to befriend.
(My own PC had around 35) |
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Technically my pledge class was 128...but we were a colony ;)
Classes at my school range from upper 40s to upper 50s, depending how many PNMs there are that year. I think I would have been okay with anywhere from 30-50. |
I tend to think that my school has always had pretty good pledge class sizes.
They're typically in the 20s or 30s. I think the pledge class sizes are good. They're big enough that girls can find other girls who share their interests, and not so small that you would end up with an "odd girl out" situation where let's say 4 NMs all are BFFs and leave the 5th one out. I was a COB girl, but I would have been fine in a class of that size. My class had 3 girls in it (informal) and I would've liked a couple more. The spring class sizes tended to vary with the number of spaces each chapter had open, but they were usually no more than maybe 10. |
My pledge class was around 35-40 and I think this is about the perfect number for me.
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We've been steadily increasing over the years. My pledge class was 45, next was 65 and this past years was 76. They're looking in the 80's this year. So my chapter is looking at about 200 which may not be too crazy, but we're a small school (only 11000) with 3 NPC sororities. The boys in our schools chapters are only around 70 at the most.
I would have to say I would like a pledge class around 25-40. That would be good to get to know. We had a lot of trouble this year with 76 girls. I can't imagine what its going to be like this year. :-/ |
The idea of an 82-person new member class boggles my mind. Where I went to school, total was 80. How can you really feel a sisterly bond with 81 pledge sisters and 300+ people in your chapter?? (To say nothing of things like membership selection and initiation taking all day and half the night...!)
To me, 20-25 people is a good NM class size. If you get much bigger than that, it becomes more difficult for the NM class to bond. If you get much smaller than that, and that's not the norm for your campus (e.g. every chapter but yours takes 80-100 NMs each year and your chapter takes 3-5 per year), then the NM class may bond nicely (or may hate each other's guts) - but your chapter will become too small to be viable. (I'm obviously taking an NPC perspective here.) |
35-50. About 40 appears to be a good working number amongst orgs at my alma mater.
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My pledge class had 36 members. It was a nice size but I think it would have been closer-knit at around 25 or so.
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I'm going to look at it in a logical/practical way and say from 1/3 to 1/2 of the existing chapter size. So, if there are currently 30 members, then 10-15 new members would be ideal. When there are more new members than initiated members, it's very tough on the chapter. When there are too few new members, it's hard on the new members. It's all about balance :)
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I think pledge classes of about 50 are ideal. Small enough to know everyone yet large enough to have a number of women who will have interests similar to yours.
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I think it depends on the campus size, the percentage of students who are greek, and how many sororities/fraternities there are. I think 20-30 is ideal for smaller schools, 50 or so for larger schools.
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I'd go more specific: 10-20 for smaller schools, 20-40 for medium schools, and 40+ for larger schools.
My Fraternity had a 33 member class 3 years ago, and it was kind of a mess (especially since the chapter was at 25). Now 12-18 is our safe number for Fall and 20 per year is our ultimate goal. |
My pledge class started out as 9 and at the time of Initiation was 6. We were a pretty close group but I would say 15ish would be ideal for me. I'd be okay with 20 but no bigger.
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My PC was 42, the one before me was 47. It seems that whenever totals get up into the 40s and remains there for a handful of years, the campus starts talking expansion. Total is 110, so I think they are afraid of pledge classes in the 50s.
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My pledge class was 10 (and nobody dropped out or was kicked out), but we were a spring class...the fall class was considerably larger. I think a good size for a fraternity would be about 35ish if you are pledging one class a year, and 24ish with a spring of 10-12 if you are pledging two.
The wide variety of answers shows how there really is a need for all different sizes of chapters...although it would suck if you were one of those who wants a pledge class of 5 at a school where the pledge class is 80 (or vice versa). |
We have around 45-50. I think it is a really good number. The idea of an 82 girl pledge class is crazy to me...I feel like I would barely know half the pledge class. 45-50 is big enough that we all find a group of best friends, but we also all get to know each other pretty well.
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It's no surprise that most people said their ideal nm class size is what they are used to at their undergraduate school. Ideal size is more than an arbitrary number. It has to do with the size of your chapter house/suite, and the size and culture of your campus.
You can't talk about ideal nm class size without talking about ideal chapter size. At Maryland, chapters are 95 (total) in the fall and 120 or so in the spring. Spring nm classes are mid to upper 20s, with 32 this past year being a high mark. Fall nm classes are shrinking, usually 10 or fewer. Most chapter houses have 40-50 women living in, with 3 holding 33 and 2 holding 60. Since my chapter's house sleeps 33, we would need a bigger house if chapter size got any bigger. I'd like to see Maryland go to extension instead of raising total if the recruitment numbers keep going up. We can barely fit enough chairs for meetings. Initiation and other rituals are also way too cozy. I like the size chapters/nm classes are now at Maryland. They're large enough to be diverse, but small enough to still be personal. Even though I would have made the effort to get to know everyone in my chapter even if it were 300 women, I can't say that everyone else would. I'd say 45 in a NM class is the upper end of ideal for me. |
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Not too big, but big enough to have all types of members that will contribute to the chapter. |
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I had 36. The chapter I now work typically has quota around 16-18. I see how much closer that pledge class is, but it's also a small school compared to the largest school in the nation. I think 15-25 is a great size.
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My undergrad chapter has had about 22-25 for the last couple of years. I didn't really have a NM class because we basically did COB as a local sorority for a while.
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I would think it would be easier to prefer a class of 80 but end up in a class of 8 than prefer a class of 8 and end up in a class of 80.
I would imagine that many women who join when the pledge class is smaller may not join if the chapters/pledge classes were larger. I probably would not have joined had I not gone to the particular college that I went to and had the particular experiences that I ended up having, which led me to Greek Life. |
Those pledge classes are bigger than my whole chapter. My pledge class was 22 and I thought that was big! I'm more comfortable in smaller groups so my pledge class was perfect for me!
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