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Professor 10-31-2001 10:57 AM

I'm gonna beat her .....
 
My nieces are off the hook. I think they need to have there asses beat but I love them to much to hit them. You know when little girl look at you and they are afraid. I just won't to protect them. But that's another issue. Do you spank your kids or believe in spanking kids?

AKAtude 10-31-2001 12:51 PM

Warning, Will Robinson!
 
Professor, I'm warning you. You might be starting something.

I was spanked as a child once in a blue moon. I turned out great!:D Yes, I believe in spanking children. If I ever have children, I'll spank my own if I have to. A swift swat on the never hurt anyone; now a whoopin' is a different story.;)

I've seen children never spanked who have grown up and still get into trouble. I've seen them spanked and the same thing still happens. Then, they are those like me:D who have been spanked and are productive members of society, and those that are not.

We like to rely on the reasoning that "they were all raised the same", but every child is different and should be dealt with accordingly. So, what you do for one child may not always work for another. If there is another way, then by all means try it. No one has the perfect forumla for raising children.

CrimsonTide4 10-31-2001 01:09 PM

I got whooped. NOT BEAT but whooooped. I am PRODUCTIVE and a God fearing, Mama respecting child. :D

I agree with AKAtude. I used to say I ain't never gonna whoop my kids!! Pleeeeeeease. I teach and there are many days I pray for a belt to whoop some of these BeBes. I will whoop my kids but I will also talk to my kids.

AKAtude 10-31-2001 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
I got whooped. NOT BEAT but whooooped. I am PRODUCTIVE and a God fearing, Mama respecting child. :D

I agree with AKAtude. I used to say I ain't never gonna whoop my kids!! Pleeeeeeease. I teach and there are many days I pray for a belt to whoop some of these BeBes. I will whoop my kids but I will also talk to my kids.

I remember kids that got sent outside to pick their own switch!:eek: LOL. Those were the days.

CrimsonTide4 10-31-2001 01:38 PM

Naw to that SWITCH mess
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AKAtude


I remember kids that got sent outside to pick their own switch!:eek: LOL. Those were the days.

My cousins in the south had that but my mom did belts and house shoes. She had this one belt that was fierce. I tried to hide it once. :rolleyes: :eek:

Ideal08 10-31-2001 03:02 PM

I had to pick my own switches
 
I believe in whoopin' kids. I got my share of whoopins, some not so bad, some hyperventalin'-horrible. And I like to think that I turned out just fine.

I will whoop my kids, if they need it. But not with a switch, that mess was ridiculous. I mean, it left welps all over your legs and arms. So everybody KNEW you got whooped. Then they wanna clean the welps with alcohol and whatnot. Man, whatever. :rolleyes: I won't do that to my kids. But I will use my hand and a belt.

tickledpink 10-31-2001 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by AKAtude


I remember kids that got sent outside to pick their own switch!:eek: LOL. Those were the days.

I was one of these!

kitten03 10-31-2001 03:03 PM

I did the belt hiding thing too...before i realized that there was more than one belt in the house.

I personally would whoop my kids. I think I'm a better person because of my mom & her belt. But there is a big difference between whoop and beat. I have seen mothers on the bus or train that are so frustrated with their kids that they beat them to release their frustrations. I know it's not always that way but it does happen.

Mz. Sports Luva 10-31-2001 03:24 PM

I DO NOT miss those days!!!
 
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Originally posted by AKAtude
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I remember kids that got sent outside to pick their own switch!:eek:
LOL! I was one of those kids. I can laugh about it now, but back then it was not funny. My momma did not play, we had to get a "nice-sized" switch, too, or else...it was gonna be much worse.

But, all of those whoopings made me into the person that I am now. Although, I know some of the whoopings I received, was not necessary. :)

My future children will be spanked. I absolutely hate to see these modern day parents negotiating w/their kids!:confused: Children need discipline in their lives or else the parent-child role will be reversed.

MIDWESTDIVA 10-31-2001 03:31 PM

I don't believe in sparing the rod. But it should be a last resort, not first.

Sometimes I had to get my own switches. Sometimes my mother got them. When she got them, she would swat herself on the wrist with it first and then say "Oooh that stings. Midwestdiva ;), you better straighten up". That used to piss me off! :mad:

When I was a kid, I used to go to Oklahoma during the summer. I had an aunt that would take my cousins and me to the family church. We had to sit on the front pew with her, so she could keep an eye on us. Every Sunday she brought a switch with her and kept it on her lap. She called it Johnny Pepper :rolleyes:. If we started talking or playing she would point it at us, and if we kept it up we'd get a swat. :eek: We laugh about this now that we're grown, but it wasn't funny back then.

Oh yeah, I tried that belt hiding mess too. It didn't take long for my mother to catch on. She gave me an ultimatum, either you can bring me the belt, or I can get an extension cord. I chose to find the belt.

My children aren't going to go through all this, because they're going to be little angels. :)

AKAtude 10-31-2001 04:05 PM

Re: I DO NOT miss those days!!!
 
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Originally posted by Mz. Sports Luva
I absolutely hate to see these modern day parents negotiating w/their kids!:confused: Children need discipline in their lives or else the parent-child role will be reversed.
Isn't that the truth! I get totally disgusted when I see that happening.:rolleyes: I'm thinking you don't have to negotiate to appease that child. What the...?

Professor 10-31-2001 04:29 PM

Re: Re: I DO NOT miss those days!!!
 
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Originally posted by AKAtude


Isn't that the truth! I get totally disgusted when I see that happening.:rolleyes: I'm thinking you don't have to negotiate to appease that child. What the...?

Yep - I hate to see kids in the grocery store falling on the floor. I want to beat their asses myself. I know my nieces are bad girls. Their mom can't handle those girls. She is tired and I think needs several mental health days. I just sometime feel that she needs to spank them instead of saying go to time out.

Sugar_N_Spice 11-01-2001 12:01 AM

Well, if the shoe fits...
 
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Originally posted by Professor


Yep - I hate to see kids in the grocery store falling on the floor. I want to beat their asses myself. I know my nieces are bad girls. Their mom can't handle those girls. She is tired and I think needs several mental health days. I just sometime feel that she needs to spank them instead of saying go to time out.

Sounds to me like other froms of punishment, other than a "time out", then need to be considered (since that's not working). How old are these girls??? Are thye teen-agers???' B/c, I guarantee you that if take away the phone, hanging out with friends, allowance, shopping privileges (shop--w/what money??!! ;)), etc. that they will begin to straighten up...Tell your nieces' mother not to buy them the new Jordans...What my Mom did to me once was made me walk around wearing some Pay-Less Shoes while I was on punishment :o that was not cool...Then again, I think these girls may actually bernefit from a whupping (NOT A BEATING), as long as it's given to them NOT when you are angry, b/c then you are taking out your frustration on them...Whup them out of love, not anger, and it will make them betterr adults--it did for me!!

novella000 11-01-2001 12:38 AM

start early....
 
The key to discipline in my own limited experience is to START EARLY! That way a swift LOOK or motherly growl works well into the older years...

I have spanked. Definitely a last resort. I rarely have had to spank my son and niece b/c all I need to do is give them the LOOK. It even works in the mall and Toys 'R Us!

Spanking is a tool to be exercised sparingly. But when it comes down to it, do what you must... don't kill them, but give them something to think about.

stillwater15 11-01-2001 01:14 AM

if God chooses to bless me with little ones, i don't plan to spare the rod. time-out, counting to ten and all that other stuff is nonsense. like others who have posted, i got beat w/whatever was handy (shoes, alarm clock, extension cord, garbage can, etc.). this may sound diabolical, but looking back on my childhood, i still don't think i got beat enough.

AKAtude 11-01-2001 11:57 AM

Re: start early....
 
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Originally posted by novella000
The key to discipline in my own limited experience is to START EARLY! That way a swift LOOK or motherly growl works well into the older years...
This is soooo true! One of my cousins and her husband have an 11 year old little girl going on 31. But my cousin doesn't have to put a hand on her. Her voice and look is enough. My sister was like, dang, teach me how you do that!

tickledpink 11-01-2001 04:12 PM

Public Places
 
I know I've stated this before when we've talked about it, but, yes, I am beating that behind!

We started early as far as disciplining our children. You have to get a hold of them early. When they were very young, I was one of those "beating in public" (more of a pop, "whoopings" occured in the bathroom) moms that some of you dread. It let my children know, if you show off in public, I'm getting you in public. I remember once, my son had the audacity to show off in front of a policeman. Hmmmmmm. He got "popped" right in front of him, no questions asked. :rolleyes: I see alot of manipuative children that know bad behavior embarrasses the parent show off in public on purpose. :mad: They worry about sufferring the concequences later. Now that my children are older, all I have to do is look at them and that ends the madness in public before it begins.

novella000 11-01-2001 07:00 PM

Re: Re: start early....
 
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Originally posted by AKAtude


This is soooo true! One of my cousins and her husband have an 11 year old little girl going on 31. But my cousin doesn't have to put a hand on her. Her voice and look is enough. My sister was like, dang, teach me how you do that!

I bet your cousin does/used to do a lot of talking with her discipline. Kids HAVE TO understand what the heck is wrong with what they did, or ANY form of discipline will eventually be unsuccessful.

And you know the thing about it is that a lot of people, well - some of my friends and acquaintences, believe that discipline should began after kids start walking... SOOOOOO untrue! Babies and infants are wayyyyy more capable of learning/understanding than most adults give them credit for.

I remember when my son was three months old -- he had a thing (as most babies do) for chewing earrings and necklaces. Of course I did not spank him -- or really get all of that stern with him... But there was a DEFNINITE change in tone when I told him that he should stop what he was doing.
[Certain tones & facial expressions]= [A NO-NO]
I would then give him something else to play with, and let him see a more pleased look and hear a sweeter tone. He didn't fully understand much except for my tone and facial expression, but it payed off. As he got older and more defiant (as children do) I would incoporate corpoal punishment, as needed. But that's rare. I will continue to work it this way, because it has been working so far. I think it really pays off if you discipline and talk to your children from the cradle up.

Dexter 11-02-2001 12:41 PM

I spank my son. Although that's not my preferred punishment in every situation, I get him when he needs to get got! One thing that I don't do is spank him when I'm angry. That's how Children get hurt.

soulsearchin 11-03-2001 11:03 AM

i don't have children...but i do not believe in corporal punishment...for any reason...whatsoever...i believe that the body is sacred...and as such...even a child should not be brutalized...

"we"...blacks...i believe...tend to jump on the "get that ass" bandwagon when a child does something wrong because "we" have been conditioned...as a byproduct of slavery...to believe that corporal punishment is THE answer to correcting a childs "bad" behavior...when in reality there are a plethora of disciplinary options that just take a little more effort...attention...care...time...and PATIENCE...on the part of parents...and those with the authority to guide a child...

some may say...well you don't have children so how would you know...i've been around enough children to know that they will have much more respect for you...listen to you...for real...and trust and respect you...if you respect them as individuals...and not demolish their little temples...you be an example to your child...correct them right when they do something "wrong"...and not build up anger towards your child to a point where your "only" corrective alternative is to "beat they ass"...then everything should be cool...they are just as much individuals as we are as adults...and as such...no one method will work for all children...but corporal punishment should not be on your top five choices of "corrective" methods...

all corporal punishment does is create fear and docileness...like a slave...the child doesn't do "it"...not because they have genuinely comprehended why they shouldn't do whatever it is they did...but because they fear the punishment...the point of correcting a child is learning that they shouldn't do what ever they did and why...not learning to fear their parent or getting "whooped"...

check out this link http://www.corpun.com/
peace and blessings...

CrimsonTide4 11-03-2001 11:14 AM

Tickled Pink
 
As I read Tickled Pink, I remembered somethings. My mom was one of those people who disciplined from the getty up. I never got whooped in public instead she would say, "Wait til we get home, girl.":eek: :eek: That used to make me OOOO-TAY:p .

A few years ago, my former cousin was out at the mall with her 3 kids and her youngest would not stop cutting up. They were in a jewelry store and she told him "Little Man stop!" :mad: (names have been changed to protect the innocent:p ). So he kept running through the store. She finally pulled off her belt, he fell to his knees and prayed, "Jesus save me." His mom and the jewelry store people fell out cracking up. BTW, he did get the whooping -- at home though.

Your kids have to know from getty up who is the parent and who is the child. As a teacher, I OFTEN have to remind my students who is in charge and who is still a child.

ClassyLady 11-03-2001 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by AKAtude


I remember kids that got sent outside to pick their own switch!:eek: LOL. Those were the days.

I was one of those children. My grandmother would send me outside to pick my switch. I would try to spend as much time as I could getting it or pick a tiny switch. That would only get me beat worse. Finally, one Saturday night, an old drunk man from around the corner peed on that bush. I was so happy. :D :D That old bush dried up and died.

Back to the topic. I got my little behind torn up on quite a few occasions. I turned out to be a productive member of society. When and if I have children, I will do the same thing to them, not with switches though. Spanking should be used a final resort.

Professor, I have a neice too. She is twelve going on twenty. Her figure is changing and her little mouth is getting very fresh. I'm the nice aunt who spoils the kids, so she thinks that she can get smart with everyone and run to me to protect her. Somebody done told her wrong!!! Yeah, she can get new clothes when she does well in school, but disrespect will not be tolerated. I'll probably be the one to punish her hardest for acting up.

Enforcer00 11-04-2001 12:29 PM

Yes I will...
 
I was one of those who got a spanking while growing up. My mom stopped doing it after a while cause I learned my lesson at an early age. My younger sister on the other hand was a different story entirely. I don't remember ever acting up in public I was too afraid of what my mother might do to me right then and there. My father never spanked me cause he had the LOOK. I am 23 now and to this day it still scares me. He even did it to our puppy and it stopped right in its tracks. I just wanna know how you learn to do that.:confused:

When I eventually do have kids, yes they will be spanked but hopefully it won't be often. It'll be just my luck to have some bad-behind kids.:(


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