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ComradesTrue 05-13-2010 01:14 PM

Facebook is watching you all over the web...
 
In the interest of not continuing to hijack another thread, it seemed about time to have another "we hate facebook's latest attempt at updating" thread.

This one involves the new social plug-ins, which means that many other websites that have partnered with facebook have access to your profile pic, name, friends, etc. I first noticed this recently while on the CNN website. Later, while on another website that I had never even been on before, I noticed my own FB pic as well as that of several of my friends. You can imagine how creeped out I was!


What it looks like:
Quote:

Originally Posted by UofM-TKE (Post 1928534)



Quote:

Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 1928655)

Of course FB set the default privacy setting to "allow" for everyone unless we turn it off. Therefore, if you don't like it I encourage everyone to go into their privacy settings-> applications and websites-> instant personalization pilot program. Unclick.

You may still need to "sign out" from the facebook portion of sites that you have visited since FB launched the program. I updated my privacy settings about a week ago, and other than "signing out" in those facebook boxes for about 24 hours I haven't had a problem since.

Again, realize that even if you aren't seeing yourself on certain sites your friends can see if you have read/liked an article on that site.

Annoying beyond belief.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1928725)
These "social plugins" were activated a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done to stop them from "logging you in". There is no opting out. Changing the button for "instant personalization" will not effect this new feature.

FB says that it does nothing with the info is receives, but it pisses me off too:

Facebook Help:
http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=1068

How do I opt-out of viewing social plugins?

No data is shared about you when you see a social plugin on an external website. You can choose to use social plugins when you click the "Like" or "Recommend" button on a piece of content you want to share. These actions are publicly available information, similar to public comments or reviews you might write on a website. Only click the "Like" or "Recommend" buttons if you want to share your likes and recommendations publicly./help/?faq=17097

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 1928727)
/hijack

try www.eff.org - "How to opt out of Facebook's Instant Personalization"

would like to know what someone more technologically savvy thinks about what this article recommends.

it might be worth posting elsewhere if it's at all valid or useful.

end hijack/

Ree:
I honestly have not had any problem with the partnered websites identifying me once I "opted out." I have been back to several of the original sites where I saw my picture and pictures of my friends, and now it just looks neutral like UofM's screen shot above.

So, everyone- Facebook overstepping boundaries, or just another means of "connecting people?" Are you creeped out or curious as to what your friend thinks of that PeopleDotCom article?

AZTheta 05-13-2010 01:16 PM

Thanks, Blondie93, for starting this thread. I followed all the instructions on the eff.org site and have had no problems with privacy. Read the entire article; you have to go back and check periodically to see what else needs to be updated for privacy.

Facebook is getting creepy, IMO.

annabella 05-13-2010 01:22 PM

I made a step-by-step Facebook privacy guide for one of my clients, but I feel you guys on here are a little more advanced than to need all the visual cues.

The main thing you need to worry about: Facebook is going to keep doing stuff like this.
1. Never put anything out there that you wouldn't want released (duh).
2. Stay ahead of the changes they make. They announce stuff like this before they do it, usually on blog.facebook.com or in your updates. Facebook sends you updates before they do this stuff, but you don't receive notification of them. So unless you know to check your updates, it's kind of pointless.

To check for the updates from Facebook (and any fanpage you've "liked,"):
In the left column of your homepage, click "Messages." Under Messages, you have the option of clicking "Sent" or "Updates."

Click "Updates." Any official Facebook changes or proposed updates to the privacy policy will be sent from "Facebook Site Governance."

33girl 05-13-2010 01:29 PM

They are completely overstepping as far as privacy goes. Not only that, it's pissing me off that interests etc that I put in my profile are getting mistaken for things they are not. Example - under my favorite TV shows I had "Law and Order (all of them)." The plugins/community pages changed it to "Official Law and Order Page." That's NOT what I said or meant.

Another thing that pisses me off is the verbiage about how if enough people are on a page the administration will be taken over by the Facebook community.

I think I'm talking about something different though. This instant personalization pilot thingy has been around for a while.

MysticCat 05-13-2010 01:41 PM

I'm seriously considering deleting my FB account. I don't check it very often anyway. I just want to keep up with friends I rarely see; I really don't want to see umpteen hundred messages about Farmville or who wants to give me something or what cause someone wants me to support.

I'm with others -- FB just keeps getting creepier and less useful.

groovypq 05-13-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1928767)
I'm with others -- FB just keeps getting creepier and less useful.

Agreed.

Has anyone else noticed that you can't make your favorite quotes private? A friend pointed that out the other day.

So basically, I have to take time every so often and search FB to see if people I don't want to see *anything* about me have joined, and block them, because you can't hide everything. Fan-tastic.

33girl 05-13-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1928767)
I'm seriously considering deleting my FB account. I don't check it very often anyway. I just want to keep up with friends I rarely see; I really don't want to see umpteen hundred messages about Farmville or who wants to give me something or what cause someone wants me to support.

I'm with others -- FB just keeps getting creepier and less useful.

You can hide the Farmville stuff - when it comes up just click "hide" on the right and it will ask whether you want to hide Farmville or the person. You can also block applications like causes.

MysticCat 05-13-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1928778)
You can hide the Farmville stuff - when it comes up just click "hide" on the right and it will ask whether you want to hide Farmville or the person. You can also block applications like causes.

Done that, but they keep coming back after awhile. It's just like the privacy stuff -- they don't want you to block those things so they keep changing it so that your blocks stop working and you have to do it all over again.

Like I said, all I want FB for is to keep up with some old friends, and I become more and more disenchanted with it as a helpful way of doing that.

33girl 05-13-2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1928782)
Done that, but they keep coming back after awhile. It's just like the privacy stuff -- they don't want you to block those things so they keep changing it so that your blocks stop working and you have to do it all over again.

Like I said, all I want FB for is to keep up with some old friends, and I become more and more disenchanted with it as a helpful way of doing that.

Really? I blocked it once and haven't seen it since. It may be a Farmville imitator. But you should only have to block an app once.

Little32 05-13-2010 02:15 PM

At one point, it was an easy way to keep up with folks that I did not see or speak to very often, but I am really weighing out whether I want to continue to use it or not. The use value is beginning to be far outweighed by the creep factor.

AXiDMeesh 05-13-2010 02:27 PM

The applications definitely keep coming back. I don't know how many times I've blocked those dumb games but I continuously get invites from them and friends requests from people I don't know asking if I want to play. I have double and triple checked in my settings to be sure they are blocked and they always are. Right now I'm sitting at 236 app requests because it's just too tedious to go in and delete them anymore. Also when I deleted my account and then came back it, it took about a week for all of my old settings to be completely re-installed, and I had to go back and do my privacy settings myself when some chick I had blocked started talking about a status I had. So for a whole week my profile was completely open. And if it weren't for recruitment I would have been deleted my profile by now.

ThetaDancer 05-13-2010 02:28 PM

Is there any way to hide the "fan pages" or whatever they're called? I'm not a fan of things that are ridiculously inappropriate, but I am a fan of some things I don't want everyone on facebook to see (for example, politicians). I have everything else set as "friends only" but you can still see that I like Russ Feingold, for example, and that's not something I necessarily want to advertise to anyone who may come across my facebook page because politics can be so divisive.

It's not the end of the world but if anyone can tell me how to make those pages private, I would appreciate it!

Senusret I 05-13-2010 02:49 PM

I still like it a lot.

It's definitely a voluntary community. :)

33girl 05-13-2010 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThetaDancer (Post 1928794)
Is there any way to hide the "fan pages" or whatever they're called? I'm not a fan of things that are ridiculously inappropriate, but I am a fan of some things I don't want everyone on facebook to see (for example, politicians). I have everything else set as "friends only" but you can still see that I like Russ Feingold, for example, and that's not something I necessarily want to advertise to anyone who may come across my facebook page because politics can be so divisive.

It's not the end of the world but if anyone can tell me how to make those pages private, I would appreciate it!

No, you can't. That's what I was talking about in my post. You have to delete them.

As for the people who keep getting apps back - contact Facebook and let them know. You shouldn't be having that problem. There are lots of lookalikes (farmtown, farmville etc) so you have to block the new ones as they appear. I've never had an issue with this whatsoever.

ThetaDancer 05-13-2010 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1928806)
No, you can't. That's what I was talking about in my post. You have to delete them.

Thanks! I'm glad I asked before I spent anymore time trying to figure it out on my own.

MysticCat 05-13-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1928806)
As for the people who keep getting apps back - contact Facebook and let them know. You shouldn't be having that problem. There are lots of lookalikes (farmtown, farmville etc) so you have to block the new ones as they appear. I've never had an issue with this whatsoever.

See, I'm at the point that I'd just as soon delete my account as take the time to deal with FB about it. Like I said, I log on once or twice a month (any messages worth reading are sent to my email, so I see those immediately). And the reason I don't log on any more often than that is that 90% of what I see is stuff I care nothing about -- including, I'm afraid, most people's statuses or what they like/are fans of.

RaggedyAnn 05-13-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThetaDancer (Post 1928794)
I am a fan of some things I don't want everyone on facebook to see (for example, politicians).

I deleted all my pages except for the volunteer orgs that I am a part of and one of our philanthropies. It does suck, because that meant deleting my state rep, who is my friend's husband, but I'm job searching. I wish they would let me make those pages private.

agzg 05-13-2010 05:53 PM

My interests had previously been private and it told me to like all these fan pages for EVERYTHING on my page. If I didn't like them, it removed it from my interests. Fine for me.

KSUViolet06 05-13-2010 06:50 PM

I'm confused. My profile still looks like regular FB. But when I go to anyone else's FB page (like one of my friends), the interests are connected to Fan Pages and everything looks different/weird. Is it going to eventually start looking like that for everyone.

I also just happened to make a change to my privacy settings recently and realized that FB had just reset them. So my profile was completely public for at least a week and I had no idea. OMG.

AXiDMeesh 05-13-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1928892)
I just took all my likes and put it in the Bio section so they aren't associated with pages at all.

This is a really good idea. I'm going to do this :)

ETA: So I just went to do this, and when you click edit for your interests, movies, and whatnot you can drag each item to the bottom of that category and a message comes up that says "Drag here to Hide". So hopefully they remain hidden to everyone else and not just to me.

ETA 2: Nevermind. Anyone can just click the "Show" button after you do this and see everything again. Just delete your fan pages.

KSUViolet06 05-13-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1928903)
Try removing ALL your interests and activities, then saving your profile, then editing again. I had to do that to switch over.

Then go to your privacy settings and check them really closely.

If I don't do that, will it stay the way it is? It's fine that way. I was just wondering if it was an all-FB change that was coming up or something.

knight_shadow 05-13-2010 07:14 PM

I just checked my privacy settings, and they're all the same.

I am on the "new" look, though, so my music/movies/interests have all been linked or deleted. Not too concerned about that, though.

33girl 05-13-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXiDMeesh (Post 1928907)
This is a really good idea. I'm going to do this :)

This is what I did as well. Ha ha on you, Facebook.

Basically if you want to make a page for anything...DON'T make a page...make a group. That way people can join it and not worry about it showing up in their stuff.

Off to make quotations private...

ETA: Huh. I just went to privatize my quotations and they were already private. OMGWTFBBQ FACEBOOK IS READING MY MIND!! Time to put on my tinfoil hat.

ree-Xi 05-13-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ree-Xi http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/im...s/viewpost.gif
These "social plugins" were activated a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done to stop them from "logging you in". There is no opting out. Changing the button for "instant personalization" will not effect this new feature.

FB says that it does nothing with the info is receives, but it pisses me off too:

Facebook Help:
http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=1068

How do I opt-out of viewing social plugins?

No data is shared about you when you see a social plugin on an external website. You can choose to use social plugins when you click the "Like" or "Recommend" button on a piece of content you want to share. These actions are publicly available information, similar to public comments or reviews you might write on a website. Only click the "Like" or "Recommend" buttons if you want to share your likes and recommendations publicly./help/?faq=17097


Quote:

Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 1928739)

Ree:
I honestly have not had any problem with the partnered websites identifying me once I "opted out." I have been back to several of the original sites where I saw my picture and pictures of my friends, and now it just looks neutral like UofM's screen shot above.

So, everyone- Facebook overstepping boundaries, or just another means of "connecting people?" Are you creeped out or curious as to what your friend thinks of that PeopleDotCom article?

What happened to my post???? Did someone delete it???

bostongreek 05-14-2010 12:36 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/well-...#ixzz0nuTnz7xv

Don't know how legit this is, but it definitely makes sense for Zuckerberg. Especially considering facebook's origins...

ree-Xi 05-14-2010 01:29 PM

Facebook, instant personalization, and security holes.

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/05...ms_ss=facebook

33girl 05-14-2010 02:24 PM

I guess I'm dumb, but what exactly is Yelp? I never use Pandora because they don't get me at all - I prefer last.com.

Mevara 05-14-2010 03:43 PM

There is a privacy setting "Applications and Websites" that allows select partners to instantly personalize their features with my public information when I first arrive on their websites.

Unclick the check box and it should be removed if you don't want that info shared.

DSTRen13 05-14-2010 05:30 PM

All my fan pages and everything else seem to be completely hidden - at least according to the "preview profile" feature - so apparently I have successfully set up my privacy settings the way I want them. Either this is not actually that hard to do (so why won't my mother stop asking me for instructions?), Facebook is lying to me with the preview feature (a real possibility!), or I somehow have crazy FB skills (???).

AZTheta 05-15-2010 12:27 PM

Doing some online reading, came across this and believe it's worth sharing:

Facebook emails from the founder were made public this week in which he laughed with a friend about “what dumb f*cks people were” to trust him with their information, offered the dirt on anyone he had to the friend; there's more... perhaps the cavalier attitude FB has about privacy had very early beginnings.

http://www.businessinsider.com/well-...roblems-2010-5

33girl 05-15-2010 04:53 PM

I think people are freaking out and deleting profiles. I've lost 2 friends in the last 2 days.

KSUViolet06 05-15-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1929584)
I think people are freaking out and deleting profiles. I've lost 2 friends in the last 2 days.

I don't know if people understand that they can just turn that "follow me everywhere" feature off...

christiangirl 05-16-2010 03:09 AM

He could have been sarcastic in that exchange. It sounded like he couldn't believe people would be that dumb as to give him info like that (and if they sent it a random on the web they deserved to have their stuff shared).

33girl 05-16-2010 12:24 PM

I just don't understand, if I read an article on say TMZ.com or somewhere, why I would be compelled to hit a Facebook "like" button at the bottom of it. Who cares? Will it get me a pony? Anyone who does that just seems unnaturally obsessed with Facebook in particular and disseminating their opinions in general.

BrandNewAdvisor 05-17-2010 02:00 PM

For anyone interested in making sure everything you want private on facebook is private:
http://www.reclaimprivacy.org/
I played around with my privacy settings and re-ran the scan and it seems accurate. I found it via this article: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives...h_reclaimp.php on the "Librarian By Day" facebook page, there are other articles on facebook and internet privacy in general.

The ALA hosted a "privacy week" last week and their site has some stuff on facebook and other internet privacy.

dukemama 05-17-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1929584)
I think people are freaking out and deleting profiles. I've lost 2 friends in the last 2 days.

One of my FB friends did that today as well - so did his wife.

ree-Xi 05-21-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1932012)
Has someone already posted about the Quit Facebook group that urges people to quit facebook by May 31?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...56625#37256625


LOL @ this. It's like 0.00000000068 percent of users. As if it will effect anything.

dreamseeker 05-21-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1932259)
LOL @ this. It's like 0.00000000068 percent of users. As if it will effect anything.

maybe a confirmation that Facebook really is sharing your personal info would cause an increase.

shocker.

RaggedyAnn 05-22-2010 07:18 AM

They changed the privacy settings again within the last 2 weeks. I just updated mine when I heard about the check mark in the box thing. You can now hide fan pages.

pinkyphimu 05-22-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaggedyAnn (Post 1932685)
They changed the privacy settings again within the last 2 weeks. I just updated mine when I heard about the check mark in the box thing. You can now hide fan pages.

Yes. I just did it this morning. You can also make your education and work private again.


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