Should I rush again?
 

Life was good, came to school joined the fraternity all my friends were in but then the road curved and I crashed. I knew every single member of Phi Kappa Tau and had for years so why did I get cut? I still don't have an answer why 3 weeks before initiation! This has only been a few weeks now and everyone wants to know why I think it is a big deal? Another friend was cut and he still hangs out with them. I really am having a hard time keeping them as my best friends when they just randomly decided to get rid of people. I don't need the fraternity to be their friend but it was something I wanted to do and being cut is like I messed up somehow! I could re rush one of the fraternities I turned down, other friends have said if we like you we don't care about your past but still I feel awkward about it. It would be like a rebound. I have reasons to believe since I know I didn't break any rules it was to punish bigs who aren't being very active. I can share more details about why one active said a board member was on a power trip and getting revenge on other members but I won't disclose any major information. Just for everyone who reads this know honestly, I did nothing wrong and had full filled all my requirements! I see a very small chance in joining another because there are parts of them I don't like or people but at the same time I am really close to some.


Fire away guys.

Is there a question here?

Not one I wanted a jerk to answer. If you are just gonna bash and hate then go away.

aww vito, don't be a dream crusher. :p

Hey...it's sorta hard to say whether you'll have a chance or not, because we're not the ones deciding. Does that make sense? Also, big parts of whether you'll have a chance depends on a ton of different factors (your school, your friends, etc) all things that we don't really know anything about, so how could we give you an accurate answer, you know?

First off, if I want to bash and hate, I'm going to do so no matter what you say. BUT, I was actually being serious. I didn't see a question to be answered there. Just a rant about being dropped and you bad mouthing the brothers of the E-board.

Maybe it's because full filling all your requirements isn't enough: you have to be someone they can invision in their letters.

We can all spot a jerkus eighty miles a way.

And, BTW, from experience I can tell you that coming on GC as a dismissed new member doesn't really work well. You rarely get sympathy, and people often find out who you are. Especially since you were kind enough to name the GLO.

I'd try and learn from this and move on.

Wait, so you were a pledge and then you got cut?

What'd you do?

I don't think you will find out who I am unless you happen to go to my school but then you still wouldn't know who I was since several people were cut. Nobody is bad mouthing anyone when this is coming from several guys who are members. I have known these guys forever and so sorry if I have a bad taste in my mouth when my best friends threw me under the bus. I don't need sympathy when I didn't do anything to be cut. The point from several of them is why does it even matter, I can still live in the apartment with them and be their friend. I didn't join to be close to a group of guys when I already am, I joined to be part of the PKE.

*If they didn't want me as a brother they would have gotten rid of me a few days in not 3 weeks before initiation after 6 weeks of pledging.
* My big never goes to meetings so the theory suggested was to punish him by not letting him have a family left when he graduates in 12 days now. This still isn't fair to me!

Dude...you still haven't posed a question.

I'm really thru with you. For life. Srsly.

Must any of you post if you aren't going to help. I asked a question and I am sure there are people that can give advise on to go elsewhere or just to stay not Greek. Seeing as I didn't break rules or do things that embarassed or caused discipline action to the Fraternity I have been given a raw deal. It shouldn't just be life sucks sometimes and move on.

Yeah.... we kinda must. :(

Sorry, champ.

I think you should be talking to the "best friends" who blackballed you instead of random strangers on the intarwebz.

GC, excuse my IFC lane swerve and ignorance, but are Phi Kappa Tau and PKE the same fraternity?

You must have missed courtesy 101 and took dick 303?

Way to go out of your way to correct a simple mistake. E is 2 letters from T. I lined my fingers up on F & J and pressed E, not the end of the world!

I have nobody seems to get the big deal, the other people cut still hang out with them. I just find it a big deal because it wasn't about staying friends with them it was about the organization.

*snicker*

Hey jackass, I was asking a question, not attacking you. Re-read my post.

And learn to type.

I am sorry if you think I have the problem but I just answered how I am spoken to. I haven't seen a single person say anything constructive. It is just type type type let me pick every single fault you might have out.

I have a legit serious question now, Delta Sigma Pi is coed? Is it a real fraternity or are you a girl? I am asking because I am in a co ed service fraternity on campus but it isn't recognised as more than a service organization on campus because it is coed.

I said I wasn't there to make friends because I was already friends with these guys before and that is why before even I pledged senior year they started calling me up to make sure I was coming to join and took me out as soon as I turned 18. It doesn't seem to be getting in their heads either because they are saying we can still hang out and live together you just aren't in the fraternity. The purpose of joining wasn't for the friendship I already had but to be part of Greek life and everything.

Delta Sigma Pi is a professional, co-ed fraternity. It was founded as an all male fraternity and became co-ed in 1975. It is a "real fraternity" and I am a girl. Deltasig is not a part of the IFC, but the Professional Fraternity Association.

You can check out our website (or message me) if you are interested in learning more.

THIS. Especially so close to the end. There was likely (99.95% sure) something on his behalf that caused this termination. Blackballing isn't done lightly, especially with friends.

Never a receiver, sweetie, but I do teach it at all levels.

Shut up, you. lol

:D

Probably insulted whatever flavor of Newman's Own salad dressing at dinner. Phi Taus take that offense seriously.

Something else happened. This isn't the whole story, whether you know it or not.

Look, you have three options:

1. Continue to be friends with these guys and accept the fact that you will never be a member of this fraternity. Quit your whining and get over it. Join another group who will actually take you.

2. Continue to be their friend and continue to whine so they finally end up murdering you in your sleep to shut you up. You still won't ever be a member of their fraternity.

3. See them for the dbs they are and tell them to drink bleach. Join another group who will actually take you. You still won't ever be a member of their fraternity.

You should just face up to it. THESE GUYS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. Friends do not cut friends. Run as fast as you can away from them. Don't ever have anything to do with any of them ever again. Try to join another fraternity were you can find real friends if this is even possible at this point.
Just to make you feel better, some fraternities pledge more guys than they ever intend to initiate. A lot of this goes on in the big schools in the South. They think this is really cool. I guess this makes them feel more exclusive or something.

Its not just in the South - on my campus its not uncommon for some chapters to pledge twice the men they initiate so they can brag about how many guys they got at the IFC meeting. I don't mind the bragging, but if you don't initiate all of them its really moot point.

OP, listen to Barbie's Rush's three point plan. New members are the lifeblood of any fraternity so they're not going to shoot themselves in the foot for a spiteful vendetta if they actually like you.

To Barbie well that is just not right of fair. I shouldn't have to suck anything because my friends are dicks. Like it or not for how they act they are the people that I am the closest with. If I would have known this was gonna happen I would have taken one of the other bids I was given. I messaged KSUviolet and told her some info to explain it better. The more I explain to people they are like these guys are just asses whether you are friends with them or not. They have rules like no dating a KKG. I never had a problem with the hazing like the buying condoms and gay porn it was kinda funny to go to the store and do that.


Badcat25 & Gusteau, yeah I heard about quotas before but we don't have that. If 2 guys or 20 get in there is no effect. I don't understand why you must assume they don't like me if I live with some of them still they would have kicked me out. If they didn't like me I wouldn't have pledged for 6 weeks, I would have been gone long before. If it really is just over an inactive big or person grudges then I don't see the fraternity being able to survive.

I have to decide now if I go back to the visit others if I can fit in and get over the awkward of not taking their bid. I went where I went because I fitted in best with that image and those were my so called friends. There has to be another place that can give me a positive experience so we will find out this fall.

I honestly think now if I hadn't know them that perhaps I would be in it. Really why do I need to be in it when as friends I can still see them whenever. That wasn't my point in joining though, it isn't about our friendship since those are established. It was about growing into a man as a Phi Kappa Tau!

Do I have to beat you over the head? I repeat, THERE GUYS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. It takes two to be friends. No matter how badly you want to be their friends they don't feel the same way. If they did they wouldn't have cut you. I am sure this really hurts but that is just the way it is and nothing is going to change it. Stop bitching about it and move on for god sake. When I went thru sorority sorority rush I wanted to be in this one chapter so bad. I was crushed when they cut me but it finally sunk in that they didn't want me and the sorority I joined did and I finally got it that I didn't want a chapter that didn't want me. Please don't take this the wrong way but it needs to be said.

Point A. Just because you "knew" someone for forever doesn't mean you are truly friends.

Point B. Even if you are truly friends, there are times when there are people you love having as friends that you don't think would be suitable members of your fraternity or sorority. Sorry BC, but friends DO cut friends sometimes. However -

Point C. If these guys really ARE your friends, but didn't want you to be a member, they should have manned up at the beginning and said "dude, as much as we like you, you just aren't right for PKT - but you would be great for another group, good luck and have fun, we can all still be friends." They wouldn't let you pledge for 6 weeks and then blackball you.

The dick move is not that they cut him, the dick move is that they took 6 weeks to do so.