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ComradesTrue 05-04-2010 03:13 PM

Downtown Nashville, Historical Landmarks Under Water
 
Nashville received between 12-18" of rain over the weekend, and now the Cumberland River is cresting at over 50 feet. Several dozen people have died and countless homes and businesses have been affected. I personally have 2 friends whose family-owned business is submerged to 8 feet. Due to other big news stories this weekend (Times Square bombing attempt/arrest, Oil Leak) this has not received the national attention that it warrants.

Below is a link to pictures of downtown, the Grand Ol' Opry, Opryland Hotel, LP Field (where the Tennessee Titans play), Country Music Hall of Fame and many other landmarks. These do not include the many, many neighborhoods that are under water.

So very sad. HOpefully those who have lost everything can get help through the Red Cross and other service organizations.

Downtown, historical landmarks

Aerial photos

Senusret I 05-04-2010 03:26 PM

WOW this is crazy!!!

groovypq 05-04-2010 03:29 PM

Holy crap! I didn't realize it was so bad!

I was at the Opryland Hotel/Convention Center for work back in '01. I can't imagine it underwater like that! Those pictures had my jaw on the floor.

AZTheta 05-04-2010 03:33 PM

I enjoyed Nashville (and TN) when I visited, and am saddened to think of the destruction the flooding has caused. Those pictures are shocking.

ForeverRoses 05-04-2010 03:35 PM

I went to a fraternity formal at the Opryland back in the day- it was so pretty. I cannot believe all the flooding now.

I know the AOII headquarters are in Brentwood, outside of Nashville, I hope everything there is okay.

AGDee 05-04-2010 03:36 PM

While I hadn't followed Nashville specifically, I have a friend in Jackson who has been posting and updating on her Facebook. Things look really bad there. Roads completely washed out, massive sink holes, homes completely under water, etc.

ComradesTrue 05-04-2010 03:44 PM

Yes, it is terrible. If it weren't for the other news stories right now I can assure you that every national news outlet would be on the scene. Having lived in Nashville from 2004-07 I still have many friends there. Their photos on facebook are absolutely tragic. The flooding is everywhere, as the Cumberland has so many tributaries in the region. For a while on Saturday ALL THREE interstates going through town were closed. You may have seen this video of a portable school bldg floating down I-24 with cars submerged to the roofline. Yes, that is an interstate, and one that is no where near the Cumberland. The water rose so fast that all those cars were stuck there.

Seriously. There are so, so many people who have lost everything. Please keep them in your prayers and consider a donation to the Red Cross. Text RedCross to 90999 for $10 on your phone bill.

Finally, a commentary (and well done one) by Keith Olberman on "Nashville Flooded and Forgotton."

Please, just because you may not have heard much about it doesn't mean that it isn't tragic. It's awful, awful, awful and deserves so much more attention than it has been given.

ComradesTrue 05-04-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1924690)
I know the AOII headquarters are in Brentwood, outside of Nashville, I hope everything there is okay.

Brentwood did get hit pretty bad too, but it is also very hilly so not everything would have been flooded. I know exactly where the AOII headquarters are, but I have no idea about their status.

KSUViolet06 05-04-2010 03:51 PM

I saw this on the news. I have a couple of friends there and they posted on FB that they're ok thank goodness (they live in 2nd floor apts).

They were out of power and hot water for a couple of days though.

AnchorAlumna 05-04-2010 04:14 PM

Someone was commenting that there were more flooding pix on Facebook than on the national media - and that was where many people heard about it.

christiangirl 05-04-2010 05:01 PM

Wow! That's nuts! Those pix are insane, I can't even imagine....

Can someone please explain why the buildings are that far underwater if there was only 18" of rain? Is part of it from the rivers washing over? I'm not from an area that floods much, so forgive me.

OleMissGlitter 05-04-2010 05:03 PM

AOII headquarters is fine. I am going to guess Sigma Pi's is fine too since they are down the road on Wilson Pike Circle. I know AOII has many staff members affected.

DrPhil 05-04-2010 05:17 PM

This scares the crap out of me. Seriously.

Munchkin03 05-04-2010 05:53 PM

I have to admit, my heart and mind have been focused on the Gulf Coast, what with that massive oil slick headed straight to my parents' house. But this is really bad. :(

DrPhil 05-04-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1924758)
I have to admit, my heart and mind have been focused on the Gulf Coast, what with that massive oil slick headed straight to my parents' house. But this is really bad. :(

I think that's why the flooding has received less news coverage. I pray for the best in both circumstances.

PeppyGPhiB 05-04-2010 06:42 PM

The photos of the Opryland Hotel are amazing. I can't imagine what a loss that will be - that complex is GINORMOUS! The financial losses will be tremendous.

Having absolutely loved Nashville when I visited, this whole thing makes me sad.

NinjaPoodle 05-04-2010 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1924780)
I pray for the best in both circumstances.

Me too.

ComradesTrue 05-04-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1924735)
Can someone please explain why the buildings are that far underwater if there was only 18" of rain? Is part of it from the rivers washing over? I'm not from an area that floods much, so forgive me.

Here's my best explanation:

So everywhere is getting 12-18" but that includes areas that are parking lots, covered by buildings, etc. In other words, for every square inch of rain fall there is not one square inch of ground for it to soak into. Even if the rain did land in a dirt/soil areas those can not accomadate that much water in every square inch.

Therefore, you get the run-off effect. Initially the water will run into drainage ditches. However, drainage ditches are not designed to hold that amount of running water so they over flow. The water that makes its way into the ditch is dumped into small creeks. Same scenario with the creeks: they just aren't designed for that much water, so MORE overflow. The creeks dump into tributaries, the tributaries into the Cumberland. You get the idea. Just nowhere for all that run-off water to go. Also, rain that falls fast runs off more than slow steady rains. My firends said the rain was so hard and so fast that being in their houses on Saturday sounded like being in a car wash. All Day Long.

This is why the neighborhoods flooded first, on Saturday. It took 2 days for all the tributaries to dump into the Cumberland which crested last night. Thus, downtown and the Opry area (further down river from downtown) did not flood until yesterday.

Entire neighborhoods are under water and since those areas were never declared flood plains those homeowners did not have flood insurance.

Looks like there has been slightly more attention given to the situation on tonight's news, but the above poster who mentioned that more has been covered via Facebook is 100% correct.

BluPhire 05-04-2010 08:11 PM

Yeah it's serious. I was talking to friends and old classmates down there. They are the forgotten Katrina. My friends house is fine....but he can't get out of his neighborhood.

ISUKappa 05-04-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1924735)
Wow! That's nuts! Those pix are insane, I can't even imagine....

Can someone please explain why the buildings are that far underwater if there was only 18" of rain? Is part of it from the rivers washing over? I'm not from an area that floods much, so forgive me.

I'm assuming it's the same thing that happened in my city two years ago. The large amount of rain that fell in such a short time doesn't have anywhere to go because the ground is oversaturated. So it goes into the rivers, which then crest at extremely high levels, causing them to run over their banks and into the city.

Or, what Blondie93 said.

Flooding is horrible. Thoughts to the people of Nashville - this will take years to recover from.

AnchorAlumna 05-04-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1924735)
Wow! That's nuts! Those pix are insane, I can't even imagine....

Can someone please explain why the buildings are that far underwater if there was only 18" of rain? Is part of it from the rivers washing over? I'm not from an area that floods much, so forgive me.

Yes, much of that area is adjacent to the Cumberland River, which overflowed its banks. The Cumberland "collects'' water from many, many creeks (many of which also flooded). Plus, the amount of rain that fell was insane, AND since we had a very wet winter, the ground is fairly soaked.

WinniBug 05-05-2010 10:25 PM

It's pretty bad...we live in the next city just downstream of Nashville, so not only did we get all the rain they did, but all that floodwater, is flowing down the Cumberland to us!! Roads have been washed out, bridges covered, Riverside Dr., one of the main roads in town is COMPLETELY underwater!!

http://cmsimg.theleafchronicle.com/a...&Maxh=352&q=60
http://sitelife.theleafchronicle.com...d41a.Large.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4436484_n.jpghttp://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs290...._3960045_n.jpghttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7311584_n.jpghttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5442123_n.jpghttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6109889_n.jpghttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1265800_n.jpg

Fleur de Lis 05-06-2010 10:21 AM

Thanks to everyone for your concern. The amazing part about this disaster is how the people of Nashville have responded. Everyone is stepping up to volunteer and help neighbors and even strangers. There are already benefit concerts being held and t-shirts being sold for relief. One blogger thinks this is why we haven't gotten much national media coverage:

http://www.section303.com/we-are-nashville-4366

Right now we are facing a major water crisis. They are urging people to only use water to drink and cook - that's right - don't flush the toilet or do laundry. It will be interesting to see where we are in a few weeks when the water has completely receded.

SydneyK 05-06-2010 10:35 AM

Thanks for posting the link to the blog, Fleur de Lis. Hat's off to the blogger for such a well-put take on the lack of press.

ISUKappa 05-06-2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleur de Lis (Post 1925500)
Thanks to everyone for your concern. The amazing part about this disaster is how the people of Nashville have responded. Everyone is stepping up to volunteer and help neighbors and even strangers. There are already benefit concerts being held and t-shirts being sold for relief. One blogger thinks this is why we haven't gotten much national media coverage:

http://www.section303.com/we-are-nashville-4366

Right now we are facing a major water crisis. They are urging people to only use water to drink and cook - that's right - don't flush the toilet or do laundry. It will be interesting to see where we are in a few weeks when the water has completely receded.

That is exactly what we had to do for a week or two until they could get the main water treatment plant back on line after our city flooded two years ago. We set out big garbage cans under our downspouts and collected water to use for flushing the toilet, and even then only flushed when we had to. We showered about every other day and minimized our water for cooking. Actually, I think we had certain days we could shower - odd-numbered houses had these days and even-numbered houses had the other days. Obviously, people weren't to wash their cars or water their lawns or anything.

I think we also had to drink only bottled water for a few days. It's amazing what you can go without when you have to!

ForeverRoses 05-06-2010 11:53 AM

My son's school has a uniform, but periodically they have $1 out of uniform days (so the kids bring in $1 and get to dress down)- they just announced that next Tuesday is an out of uniform day and all the money collected will go toward Nashville relief-- and one parent (that has a daughter at Vandy) has offered to match whatever the kids raise.

ComradesTrue 05-06-2010 12:33 PM

Great video showcasing the depth of the destruction all over town and not just the landmarks. The creator used quotes from the We Are Nashville blog cited above.

I still am completely amazed that the National Media has all but ignored this story.

groovypq 05-06-2010 01:52 PM

FWIW, I have seen a bunch of celebs tweeting about Nashville, and encouraging text donations to the Red Cross for the city.

but yeah, that flooding is unbelievable, and so little has been said about it.

AGDee 05-06-2010 02:00 PM

I don't know where y'all get your news but I've been seeing lots of coverage on this every time I turn on the news, since Saturday or so. CNN has a huge special section on it even.

TehKatzor 05-06-2010 02:52 PM

I'm currently a student in Nashville, and was on campus during the flooding! It was SCARY. My mom and I managed to drive out of the city okay on Monday, but that was north of Nashville... everywhere else got POUNDED. Driving away, it was just so scary to see all these buildings underwater, and with the Opry flooded, I swear, I cried so hard. :(

One of my good friends was trying to drive home to Atlanta and lost his van and everything in it. One of my lovely sisters has friends who lost their homes and all their things because of the flooding. It is *terrible* and it is absolutely appalling to me that the only news coverage this gets is when country music stars lose their stuff. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN NASHVILLE.

*sigh*

I love Nashville so much. This is where I moved for school and it is one of the most beautiful and wonderful cities I have ever been in. It hurts to see it drowning like this and have NO ONE covering it.

ComradesTrue 05-06-2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1925580)
I don't know where y'all get your news but I've been seeing lots of coverage on this every time I turn on the news, since Saturday or so. CNN has a huge special section on it even.

Agree that CNN has had the most, but as someone who has been actively looking for coverage of this event it has not been easy to find. I have been taping the national evening news (all stations) since Sunday night. Until the Opry flooded the only coverage was deep into the broadcast and the package was less than 30 seconds. The Opry didn't flood until Monday.

Same with GMA Weekend on Sunday morning.

Here is a perfect example, though I know that the site is subject to change. ABC News website. For the past few hours, the only mention is all the way to the bottom, under "local." As in, they view this as a local story, but somehow "Does Body Spray Make You Irresistable?" is national.

Hurricanes, tornadoes, etc always lead newscasts and have the "A Team" of reporters on site. especially given the number of people who have died. No one is disputing that there haven't been other stories the past few days, but just that it has been so disproportional to the other 2 (now 3 if you count the murder of Yeardley Love) stories.

DrPhil 05-06-2010 03:42 PM

All natural disasters are not covered equally.

But, there's plenty of reliable news coverage.

AGDee 05-06-2010 08:47 PM

I watch the Weather Channel almost obsessively (as background, mostly) and CNN for news most of the time, so I guess I see a lot more of this coverage. There were some devastating tornadoes that didn't get a lot of national coverage either, from the same storm system.

PiKA2001 05-06-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 1925634)
Agree that CNN has had the most, but as someone who has been actively looking for coverage of this event it has not been easy to find. I have been taping the national evening news (all stations) since Sunday night. Until the Opry flooded the only coverage was deep into the broadcast and the package was less than 30 seconds. The Opry didn't flood until Monday.

Same with GMA Weekend on Sunday morning.

Here is a perfect example, though I know that the site is subject to change. ABC News website. For the past few hours, the only mention is all the way to the bottom, under "local." As in, they view this as a local story, but somehow "Does Body Spray Make You Irresistable?" is national.

Hurricanes, tornadoes, etc always lead newscasts and have the "A Team" of reporters on site. especially given the number of people who have died. No one is disputing that there haven't been other stories the past few days, but just that it has been so disproportional to the other 2 (now 3 if you count the murder of Yeardley Love) stories.


It is disturbing to hear on the Mark Levin show today a caller from TN was claiming that President Obama has yet to address what's going on in Nashville even though today he called for Americans to pray for the victims of natural disasters in Haiti and Chile.

DrPhil 05-06-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1925739)
It is disturbing to hear on the Mark Levin show today a caller from TN was claiming that President Obama has yet to address what's going on in Nashville even though today he called for Americans to pray for the victims of natural disasters in Haiti and Chile.

"Barack Obama does not care about TN people."

WinniBug 05-06-2010 09:48 PM

That's nuts - Obama has declared a lot of the mid-state a national disaster area.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...er-declaration

And I have seen people say "Obama doesn't like white people"

PiKA2001 05-06-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1925746)
"Barack Obama does not care about TN people."

Is TN a red state?

DrPhil 05-06-2010 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinniBug (Post 1925747)
And I have seen people say "Obama doesn't like white people"

Of course he doesn't. A Black family wouldn't want to be the First Family of a majority white country if it liked white people. The goal is to torment and torture.

DrPhil 05-06-2010 11:16 PM

Okay, Blondie93:

Why the Media Ignored the Nashville Flood

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thega...aspx?gt1=43002

honeychile 05-07-2010 12:54 AM

Those pictures are wild. I had met my English friend at the Opryland Hotel just a little over a year ago - it's hard to believe what it looks like now!


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